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Go 3-way 580 sli or 680 sli.... that is the question... lol

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April 7, 2012 2:43:06 PM

hi all, first off is i already have 1 gtx 580 SC 1.5 gb im wondering how realistically better the gtx 680's are in this early stage compared to the tried and true gtx 580's. im going to be completly over hauling my current rig in the next few days to a total of about 3,500 bux worth so im wondering if i should go with 2 more gtx 580 sc giving me a 3-way sli config since the price has dropped on them and just use them till the next nvidia cards come out sometime next year in 2013 or ditch my current 580 and spring for the new unproven gtx 680 any idea's comments are greatly appreciated... and for those wondering what rig im going to put them in the specs are...

Asus rampage 4 extreme, intel 3960x, 32gbs corsair vengence, 120gb ocz vertex ssd, 1tb WB black, 1300 watt rosewill lightning psu, custom watercooling from EK waterblocks with ek-spin bay rez & 240mm rad, all wrapped up in my current case coolermaster haf-x nvidia edition....
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April 7, 2012 3:01:59 PM

Hello and welcome to the forums
I have pretty much the same rig as you(But I have GTX 580 Matrix)and it can max out all games on 1080p.Do you have any problems running games with your card? and what resolution do you play on?
Anyway,GTX 680 is faster but the difference isn't worth the upgrade IMO and since GTX 580's has got a nice price drop recently,you may want to add another 580 to your rig(but don't go 3-way SLI since they doesn't always scale well).

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April 7, 2012 3:27:31 PM

2way SLI is better than 3-way SLI if you ask me. Beside the fact that 680 > 580. cooler, less power comsumption. Better general performance.
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April 7, 2012 3:42:05 PM

You should just SLI the 580s in 2-way. You won't get a ton of benefit from adding a 3rd card, so that's not worth the money and hassle.

2 way 680 SLI is much better, but that will cost you at least $1k, while you could SLI your 580s for 35-40% of that price since you already own one. It's a way better deal for the price.

Of course, if you just absolutely have to have the best, 2-way 680 SLI is the way to go.
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April 7, 2012 4:48:16 PM

my rig runs absolutly great the current resolution is 1920 x 1080 juist my one 580 runs everything maxed out with no noticable lag in bf3 and skyrim but i still want the best available graphics lol even if it is only onbe monitor cuurently, later i plan to have 3 monitors so thats why i posed the question
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April 7, 2012 5:28:52 PM

Hello.
arcticchill360 said:
my rig runs absolutly great the current resolution is 1920 x 1080 juist my one 580 runs everything maxed out with no noticable lag in bf3 and skyrim but i still want the best available graphics lol even if it is only onbe monitor cuurently, later i plan to have 3 monitors so thats why i posed the question

Since you have already a good GPU and you want to spend around $1000 (I guess for 3x580 or 2x680), I think you should wait a bit.
Unless you are going to change gpu every 6 months, I would advise you to wait for GK100/110. It seems that it will be a real monster so why to spend $1000 now and after 6 months you will see that there is something far better?
But if you dont have any problems changing cards quite often, then go for 2x680 SLI. If not wait for GK100/110.

edit:
GK104 = 1536 cores 2GB 256bit ram out now
GK110 = 2304 cores 4GB 512bit ram August 2012 (other rumors saying september-october)
:) 
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April 7, 2012 5:34:25 PM

You should wait to upgrade until you get 3 monitors.
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April 7, 2012 5:41:56 PM

At 1920 x 1080

One 580 is good for 616 fps in Guru3D game test suite
Two 580's are good for 953 fps in Guru3D game test suite (55% increase)
Three 580's is good for 1030 fps in Guru3D game test suite (8% increase)

One 680 is good for 770 fps in Guru3D game test suite.
Two 680's should be good for1194 fps in Guru3D game test suite assuming same scaling as 580....they may have numbers up by now but haven't had chance to peek.

As for the rest .....

-Top of the line MoBo and CPU but understand marginal increase over $200 MoBo and 2500k.
-32 MB not gonna do ya much more fps than 8 GB....prolly 2-3 % .... lower CAS, higher speed can get 3-5%. Make sure low profile as tall, toothy RAM coolers do nothing but "look cool".
-For money being spent, i'd go with Tier 1 SSD and Barracuda XT

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/ssd-review-benchmar...

Tier 1
Mushkin Chronos Deluxe 240 GB ($274), OCZ Vertex 3 Max IOPS 240 GB ($410), Patriot WildFire 240 GB ($365), Samsung 830 SSD 256 GB ($310)

Tier 3
Mushkin Chronos Deluxe 120 GB ($200), OCZ Vertex 3 Max IOPS 120 GB ($205), Patriot WildFire 120 GB ($190), Samsung 830 SSD 128 GB ($175)

http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_conten...

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April 7, 2012 5:43:55 PM

Would definitely go with the 680s, pawn the 580 and don't look back.
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April 7, 2012 7:32:17 PM

ive been seeing things floating around the web about the gk110 any one have any clue what price point they will be and will it be called the 690 then?
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April 7, 2012 7:37:19 PM

Nobody really has any idea about GK110 right now.

Some rumors have it releasing in August, some around October, some next year, some say it's scrapped.

Naming is likewise confused... some rumors suggest GTX 685, some (older, though) 695, and some suggest it will become the 780.

Nobody really has a clue about it. However, there is always something better around the corner in the world of GPUs. If you're buying $500+ GPUs, you should expect them to drop value tremendously within their first 12 months of life. Buying the top of the line GPUs is never a smart decision from a purely value perspective.
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April 7, 2012 7:49:31 PM

you know what after some carefull consideration and a little help from my wallet haha i think i will wait untill the "newest" version of the 600* series to emerge, even though the 680's did just come out a few weeks back with all the talk ive seen so far it shouldnt bee too long until its succesor comes into play besides like u said i done really want to drop 1k and in what (if it comes out in aug) 4 months a new one comes and from the specs u said basically double memory and clock speeds ill be obsolete again haha. just want to say thanks to everyone that replied and offered very valuable opinions on my issue.... thnx again
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April 7, 2012 7:51:52 PM

Wait until you have multiple monitors or otherwise need the upgrade. Buying hardware before you need it (and thus before it's cheaper) is just brazen waste.
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April 7, 2012 8:19:40 PM

Performance wise:-
1x580< 680.
SLI 2x580 is equivalent to 1X680.
SLI 3x580 is equivalent to 2x680.

Instead of getting a new 580 try exchanging it with 680 which will be really a better option then SLI 2x580 or 3x580.After sometime SLI 680 if you really need a power of 2x680.

SLI is not recommended.The reason is scaling/performance problems which you might lend yourself.Instead of getting a better result from single 680 you will be covered with all sorts of funny problems.Just take a look at the links:-

3-way SLI 580
http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=226333

2-way SLI 580
http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=226222
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April 7, 2012 11:07:32 PM

aviral said:


SLI is not recommended.The reason is scaling/performance problems which you might lend yourself.Instead of getting a better result from single 680 you will be covered with all sorts of funny problems.


I beg to differ. I long ago stopped building boxes with a single GFX card.....

One 580 cost $500 for 616 fps versus (2) 560 Ti's costing $410 w/ 862 fps....I'll take that every time. And no, never had issues with micro stuttering or anything else other then the ole new game wait 2 weeks for updated driver thing.
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April 7, 2012 11:24:24 PM

sell ur 580 get 2 680 so you will definitely have a better performance plus less power and cooler cards and u dont need the 3rd cards because theres like maybe 5 games utilize 3 way sli so worthless unless u gonna do some simulations on the computer lol
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April 7, 2012 11:38:40 PM

thegameon said:
sell ur 580 get 2 680 so you will definitely have a better performance plus less power and cooler cards and u dont need the 3rd cards because theres like maybe 5 games utilize 3 way sli so worthless unless u gonna do some simulations on the computer lol


That may have been true 3 or 4 years ago but I can speak from experience when saying 3 way sli is very well supported these days. For a 4th you will see minimal gains and more headaches, but for the most part 3 way is as easy and scales almost as much as 2. With any game I've played anyhow. Even on older titles.
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April 7, 2012 11:40:16 PM

For the op though, i would agree it might be in your best interest to sell the 580 and get two 680's. If you had 2x 580's already then maybe grab a 3rd, but with one may as well start over and go for the top if that's what your after.
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April 8, 2012 1:58:28 AM

2x GTX 680's are better. But If you already have a GTX 580, then just add another one :) 
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April 20, 2012 1:27:35 PM

Just add another GTX 580 for sli..... Big Kepler will be out in about 4-6 months and the dual kepler should be out in a month. I have a dream that one day a dual gpu will perform as well as two stock single gpus in sli..... dual kepler or southern islands may be the closest we have seen to this happening! :wahoo: 
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April 20, 2012 1:30:49 PM

@aviral... 2x 580 is substantially better than 1x 680

Also, in games I kind of doubt that 3x 580 = 2x 680, but I haven't checked recently how tri-SLI scales.

If I already had a 580, I'd recommend just getting a 2nd one, but do it before they get really pricey since nvidia stopped production.
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April 21, 2012 5:19:20 AM

BigMack70 said:
@aviral... 2x 580 is substantially better than 1x 680

Also, in games I kind of doubt that 3x 580 = 2x 680, but I haven't checked recently how tri-SLI scales.

If I already had a 580, I'd recommend just getting a 2nd one, but do it before they get really pricey since nvidia stopped production.


Just would like to say just go through link :-

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18386...
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April 21, 2012 1:15:15 PM

If you run through this review, starting here, you see that 580 SLI beats the 680 pretty much every time (2 exceptions + no data for 580 SLI on Crysis 2):
http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/gpu_displays/nvidia_...

And like I said, my guess about 3x SLI is just that - a guess. Adding a 3rd card typically helps out minimum frames and gives a slight boost to avg frames, but it doesn't usually give a 50% increase except in benchmarks. So my guess is that 2x680 will beat it.
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April 21, 2012 1:43:32 PM

BigMack70 said:
If you run through this review, starting here, you see that 580 SLI beats the 680 pretty much every time (2 exceptions + no data for 580 SLI on Crysis 2):
http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/gpu_displays/nvidia_....


Yes,it is just general benchmarking which will always give a SLI configuration a limit bit of edge but in actual a single 680 can very well handle every game in a HD 1080p resolution.

We need to keep in mind that going for new graphic cards is better option then previously available one because their production are likely going to halt so that their new cards can capture the market.What do you say?

BigMack70 said:

And like I said, my guess about 3x SLI is just that - a guess. Adding a 3rd card typically helps out minimum frames and gives a slight boost to avg frames, but it doesn't usually give a 50% increase except in benchmarks. So my guess is that 2x680 will beat it.


I totally agree with you at this point.
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