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System crashes (which hardware component is it?)

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June 6, 2012 8:51:07 PM

I have system stability problems for a long time. I always thought it was my TV tuner card, but now that I have it removed, the problems still persist.

Problem:
The system can run fine for some days (in which I boot up every morning), and suddenly be heaviliy instable on some days: black screen during bios boot, Windows crashes or reboots during boot, or the blue bios setup freezes, or a reboot in the blue bios setup. During these problems, I have to remove power from the PC a number of times, wait, try again etc. Or simply leave it off for some hours and then try it again. The problems seem to be called "cold boot problems" in by some users in similar cases.

Specs:
-CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 955 @ 3.20 GHz (normal speed) (temperature around 42 degrees celsius)
-RAM: 4 GB total, Kingston KVR1333D3N9K2/4G (kit of 2 modules)
-MoBo: Asus M4A79XTD EVO (Chipset: AMD 790X / SB750)
-GPU: Club3D HD 5750 1GB GDDR5 PCI-E (passive cooled by default) (ATI Radeon HD 5750 chipset)
-PSU: Seasonic M12 II Bronze 620W (previous PSU: Seasonic S12-430, 430W had similar problems, if I'm correct)
-OS: Windows 7 64bit
-BIOS: set to default, except: serial port disabled, firewire disabled, and AHCI mode instead of IDE mode.

Memtest runs without problems for at least 8 hours during a test. Maybe it won't run normal when the system is instable, although a quick test using Win7 memtest, didn't show any problems on a single run.
I replaced hard disks, so that should also not be the problem. Also tried different sata and power cables. Also reinstalled Windows numerous times. It shouldn't be Windows related, because the BIOS setup itself is even instable during instability.

The memory modules that I have are not explicitly mentioned in the Asus memory QVL, although a similar module is: KVR1333D3N9/1G, which is probably a single 1GB module. So I would expect that the KVR1333D3N9K2/4G (2x2gb) should also work, but I could be wrong. But the KVR1333D3N9K2 was also listed at tweakers.net's best buy guide in combination with this motherboard.

I think the problem is related to: ram, motherboard or gpu or a combination of these or a related bios setting.

Any advice about what I can try?

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a b B Homebuilt system
June 6, 2012 9:47:44 PM

Sounds like ram. Are you running it at the settings listed on the sticker?
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a b B Homebuilt system
June 6, 2012 11:12:44 PM

Check in bios see if it's running at the correct settings.

Should be 1333/1.5v/9-9-9-24.
June 6, 2012 11:23:25 PM

geekapproved said:
Check in bios see if it's running at the correct settings.

Should be 1333/1.5v/9-9-9-24.

So then I set:
-DRAM Frequency = 1333
-DRAM Voltage = 1.5

Then the 9-9-9-24 part. According to http://www.oempcworld.com/support/RAM_Technical_Perspec... , these values are:
-1st value (9): CL
-2nd value (9): tRCD
-3th value (9): tRP
-4th value (24): tRC

I'll set these and report back when a crash occurred, or when stable for at least a week with daily cold boots.
a b B Homebuilt system
June 6, 2012 11:32:28 PM

Was it set to something different?
June 6, 2012 11:54:07 PM

XPA2000 said:
[...]
Then the 9-9-9-24 part. According to http://www.oempcworld.com/support/RAM_Technical_Perspec... , these values are:
-1st value (9): CL
-2nd value (9): tRCD
-3th value (9): tRP
-4th value (24): tRC
[...]

After setting these values, the "Dram 1st Information" shows "9-9-9-24-5-24-10-4" instead of "9-9-9-24-5-33-10-4" (with all auto).
But I think the 4th value should be TRAS instead of tRC, as shown here: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/ups-downs,743-3.htm...

So I have set TRAS to 24 and tRC back to auto.
Now the BIOS shows "9-9-9-24-5-33-10-4", which is the same when everything is set to auto (as before).
a b B Homebuilt system
June 7, 2012 12:00:59 AM

try 1.55v as another poster suggested.
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