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April 9, 2012 10:59:37 PM

Hi im wondering what would be the better card for me to buy and more future proof? ive found benchmarks of them but id rather hear from people who have had or do actualy have them and can give good/bad feedback please, im asking becouse im about to buy either of the cards and i dont know if its worth payin another £100-£150 on the 7950 if the performance between them is barely anything so please help me before i MIGHT waste money Thanks.

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a b U Graphics card
April 9, 2012 11:06:01 PM

If it's really 100-150 Pounds, just get the 7870.
April 9, 2012 11:18:33 PM

well i have the xfx DD 7950 and works great and has more overclock head room since at default its at 800, but its more up to you and your wallet. both are gpu monsters tho.
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April 9, 2012 11:56:00 PM

whats your current specs
April 10, 2012 12:02:45 AM

32 inch tv at 1920x1080
AMD x6 6100 Bulldozer processor at stock
8GB RipJaw memory
700watt GTI PSU (soon to change to a 750watt)
Zalman Z11 Plus case ( been trying to find diameters for the GPU bay on the internet)
The GPU i use atm is my old GTX 275 becouse my GTX 560Ti Superclocked DS died on the 31st of march
April 10, 2012 12:11:57 AM

well i really don't see why you want to change psu, there isn't no need since both the 7870 and 7950 use the same if not less power then your 560ti. there no need for that extra 50 watts unless you crossfire.
April 10, 2012 12:13:48 AM

Im changing it becouse the last time i touched the switch at the back i was lucky enough not to get my nuts fried lol, it was so close i neerly crapped myself
a c 147 U Graphics card
April 10, 2012 12:17:19 AM

My advice is to wait for the GTX670 which hopefully will be out in a month or two.

The GTX680 is a truly awesome card priced at $500 which would suggest the GTX670 will be roughly $400.
April 10, 2012 12:18:23 AM

I wish i could but i have aspergers and ive not played a game for 10 days now and im GOING INSANE!
April 10, 2012 12:21:48 AM

I own an MSI r7950 3gb and have it overclocked at 1000 core 1575 memory and thats just using ccc,it would probably go futher in msi overdrive,also bear in mind that the benchmarks that compare the 7870 and 7950 both cards are at stock,also the 7950 has 3gb memory, if you game at high resolutions or ever plan for eyefinity and use aa features this is a plus! also most benchmarks were done with older drivers, I think 7950 has better image quality, depends on your needs but I recommend an hd7950!































April 10, 2012 12:24:34 AM

zakattak80 said:
well if your having problems with it then that be a good idea heres a graph comparison between the 7950 and 7870 if this helps you understand the performance difference at stock speeds.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/548?vs=550

Thanks man ive seen them :p  thats my problem the benchmarks are really close so i dont know if the extra money is worth it
April 10, 2012 12:25:48 AM

jijoslin said:
I own an MSI r7950 3gb and have it overclocked at 1000 core 1575 memory and thats just using ccc,it would probably go futher in msi overdrive,also bear in mind that the benchmarks that compare the 7870 and 7950 both cards are at stock,also the 7950 has 3gb memory, if you game at high resolutions or ever plan for eyefinity and use aa features this is a plus! also most benchmarks were done with older drivers, I think 7950 has better image quality, depends on your needs but I recommend an hd7950!

What is ccc? lol i only use MSI afterburner, btw what fps are you getting in battlefield 3 with everything on absolute highest? and any other high spec games you could give me ur fps in would be appreciated thanks :D 
April 10, 2012 12:31:46 AM

CATYLYST CONTROL CENTER its ati's overclock utility, at 1920 by 1080 in bf3 I get 60-80fps on ultra with everything maxed, running eyefinity at 6048 by 1080 is 30-50fps but thats a much higher resolution!
April 10, 2012 12:48:44 AM

jijoslin said:
CATYLYST CONTROL CENTER its ati's overclock utility, at 1920 by 1080 in bf3 I get 60-80fps on ultra with everything maxed, running eyefinity at 6048 by 1080 is 30-50fps but thats a much higher resolution!

Nice, is that on the big maps aswell? i know they are draining the crap out of fps on bf3 in multiplayer
a b U Graphics card
April 10, 2012 12:53:07 AM

When Overclocked, the 7870 dishes out nearly 7970 performance, it is a true beast of a card when OC'ed especially at that price....but I would wait to see what the GTX670ti has to show for the price.
a b U Graphics card
April 10, 2012 1:00:54 AM

you had a 560ti, is it not still under warranty?
April 10, 2012 1:02:56 AM

pezonator said:
you had a 560ti, is it not still under warranty?

After it died i decided i wanted a bigger better card that will eat games for a few years so i am getting a refund
a b U Graphics card
April 10, 2012 1:19:07 AM

Ohhh ok, that's a fair statement. In that case, the 7870 gets my vote. The performance is too close to the 7950 to warrant the extra cash I reckon.
April 10, 2012 1:26:00 AM

7870 hands down for me, 7950 just just too much $$. In fact I just purchase the Asus 2G 7870. Only reason to buy the 7950 imho is if you are going for crossfire, Eyefinity or running ultra high rez. BF3 is one factor in my purchase of this card and the fact that I do plan on crossfire. I think 2 7870's will be an awesome force to reckon with in BF3. My extra $$ will be going to Core i7 2600k, w/16G ram Asus Z68 MB, water cool cpu/video setup.
April 10, 2012 1:34:07 AM

bunz_of_steel said:
7870 hands down for me, 7950 just just too much $$. In fact I just purchase the Asus 2G 7870. Only reason to buy the 7950 imho is if you are going for crossfire, Eyefinity or running ultra high rez. BF3 is one factor in my purchase of this card and the fact that I do plan on crossfire. I think 2 7870's will be an awesome force to reckon with in BF3. My extra $$ will be going to Core i7 2600k, w/16G ram Asus Z68 MB, water cool cpu/video setup.

Have you used the GPU on battlefield 3 yet? ifso will you tell me the fps you get at a heavy load please?

Also wlf is happening this Sapphire HD7870 OC is cheaper than the stock version?

http://www.ebuyer.com/349750-sapphire-hd-7870-ghz-oc-ed...

http://www.ebuyer.com/349749-sapphire-hd-7870-ghz-editi...
April 10, 2012 1:52:46 AM

My card should be in tomorrow and will be runnin & gunnin by weekend. I'll try and post the FRAPS results and settings. Personally not a fan of Sapphire but they have good following. from looks of it their OC has extra gpu/memory oc goin on. I have been using Radeon HD5830 on AMD 1100T black edition at 3.4 stock and 4G ram... yeh I know. So this will be big improvement once I get all geared up. currently my fps in BF3 with setting set to LOW I get 50 fps with occasional drops to 35. Hope to see 80 to 100 fps with new rig.
April 10, 2012 1:56:30 AM

bunz_of_steel said:
My card should be in tomorrow and will be runnin & gunnin by weekend. I'll try and post the FRAPS results and settings. Personally not a fan of Sapphire but they have good following. from looks of it their OC has extra gpu/memory oc goin on. I have been using Radeon HD5830 on AMD 1100T black edition at 3.4 stock and 4G ram... yeh I know. So this will be big improvement once I get all geared up. currently my fps in BF3 with setting set to LOW I get 50 fps with occasional drops to 35. Hope to see 80 to 100 fps with new rig.

Lol likewise then i know what to buy :D 
April 22, 2012 2:00:44 PM

LvSLoLo said:
Lol likewise then i know what to buy :D 


I got the ASUS 2G 7870 and have been playing BF3 on it with no hiccups other than figuring out how to get the FPS in BF3. Ayway my fps have gone from 60fps to 80fps. I play bf3 setting on low because the extra detail makes it harder for me to see. Maybe cuz I"m old dunno but works for me at lower setting. So for higher setting I'm thinking the card would prob drop down to like maybe 60fps? I have to test that and see. I tested the settings all when playing multi-player online no campaign. But I will prob need to so to get good baseline. At times this card has ran around 100fps depending on what is goin on the screen at the time. My scores have improved and the game plays like silk, much improved. Eventually I will be setting up crossfire with two 7870's with all the bells an whistles. I would like to see fps above 100. Have to run but wanted to just get this info back to ya right quick. My current rig is prob what is hold back this card a bit maybe. I have an amd hexcore 1100T 3.4Ghz, 4g ram that is like 90% when playing BF3. be great when I get 16 in there!

R.S
April 22, 2012 2:14:11 PM

Being an AMD Graphics card Fan, i strongly recommend either one, Nvidia makes a great card too however you get more bang for your buck with AMD. Out of the 7870 and 7950, the only REAL difference is that the 7950 has more Stream processorswhich will help take care of things like texture squares or hexs faster. The fact that the 7950 has 1GB more allows for more head room when playing Graphics intensive games. Overall it comes down to you however. Its whether you want a better price or more performance and which ever means more to you. Hope this helped, and Good Luck
April 22, 2012 2:18:26 PM

bunz_of_steel said:
I got the ASUS 2G 7870 and have been playing BF3 on it with no hiccups other than figuring out how to get the FPS in BF3. Ayway my fps have gone from 60fps to 80fps. I play bf3 setting on low because the extra detail makes it harder for me to see. Maybe cuz I"m old dunno but works for me at lower setting. So for higher setting I'm thinking the card would prob drop down to like maybe 60fps? I have to test that and see. I tested the settings all when playing multi-player online no campaign. But I will prob need to so to get good baseline. At times this card has ran around 100fps depending on what is goin on the screen at the time. My scores have improved and the game plays like silk, much improved. Eventually I will be setting up crossfire with two 7870's with all the bells an whistles. I would like to see fps above 100. Have to run but wanted to just get this info back to ya right quick. My current rig is prob what is hold back this card a bit maybe. I have an amd hexcore 1100T 3.4Ghz, 4g ram that is like 90% when playing BF3. be great when I get 16 in there!

R.S


You wont regret getting 12 extra GB of RAM, that with the 1100T would run BF3 on high-max settings with no prblems at all, but liek you said, its hard to see. I would up the res to 1080P unless you are already there haha
April 22, 2012 6:10:02 PM

The extra RAM will allow for more headroom when running higher rez is my thot but. Really have to give some credence to what you are saying. Does more memory make a diff in FPS or map load times etc? I really don't know but I am thinking the extra memory should make a difference and if at very least provide some breathing room for the OS.
April 22, 2012 6:17:02 PM

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Extra ram will do nothing for his performance.



I like your rig's setup but was wondering why you went with the 2500k vs 2600k. My next rig setup will have similar setup that you have but with 16G (gotta go w/Ripjawsx bout 100usd) & 2600K P67/z68 chipset.

Intel i5 2500k 4.4GHZ|8GB DDR3 Ripjawsx|EVGA Z68 FTW 3-way SLi| EVGA GTX 480 SSC 880/1760/1900 SLi|2x Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB RAID-0|Crucial M4 64GB|Silverstone strider 80plus silver 1kw|Silverstone Raven RV02-B
April 22, 2012 6:17:54 PM

Quote:
Read this:
ZERO deifference.



....Dang it!
April 22, 2012 6:30:05 PM

I use my rig for multiple things, swap drive and run Linux, Windoze for gaming. Then also will be doing some XEN stuff. I also do video work so the extra horsepower is going to be worth the extra bucks. I noticed u chose the z68, like to hear your thots on that chipset vs the P67. From what I am reading Z68 is the way to go but those are reviews. Thx recon-uk and I believe your reply's are right on. :) 
April 24, 2012 1:41:10 AM

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Extra ram will do nothing for his performance.


Not true. Not true at all. If they come out with updates for the game that allow someone with a higher set RAM to use it in game it can run at higher frames per second, allow the tesselation to form more quickly and not have lag when it does so, and allow for the Texture layers to graph more quickly.
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