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Get another 580 gtx or wait for a 680?

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April 10, 2012 3:25:12 PM

Hello,

So i am looking to the boards for help once again. You guys helped me build a slammin' pc last november and i need your expert guidance yet again.

1. Can add a 580 gtx?
2. Run it in sli?
3. What perfomance increase will i see?
4. should i just get a 680?
5. should i get a 680 and run the 580 as physx?
6. how can i get rid of my 570, (not ebay preferably, newegg?) so i make some cash back.
7. can my PSU handle 2 580's?
8. what about a 680/580?

here is my rig below. fyi, im not gloating, i included everything to make sure i dont nuke my PSU. i put this together myself but i am still learning! if i swap the 570 i should still be under my PSU right??

LCD monitor: 24" 1900 x 1200 rez
CPU: Intel Core i7-2600K Sandy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W
Mobo: MSI Z68A-GD80 (G3) LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard with UEFI BIOS
PSU: CORSAIR Professional Series Gold AX1200 (CMPSU-1200AX) 1200W ATX12V v2.31 / EPS12V v2.92 SLI Certified 80 PLUS GOLD Certified
OS HD: Crucial M4 CT512M4SSD2 2.5" 512GB
Backup HD1: WDCaviar Black 1TB
Backup HD2: WDCaviar Black WD2002FAEX 2TB
GPU1: EVGA 03G-P3-1584-AR GeForce GTX 580 (Fermi) 3GB 384-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
GPU2 (physx): EVGA 012-P3-1570-AR GeForce GTX 570 (Fermi) 1280MB 320-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
Ram: 2x G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-8GBXL
Cooling: COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus RR-B10-212P-G1 "Heatpipe Direct Contact" Long Life Sleeve 120mm CPU Cooler
Fans: COOLER MASTER R4-S2S-124K-GP 120mm Case Fan 4 in 1 pack
Soundcard: Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Professional 70SB088600002 7.1
Blu ray burner and dvd burner

Thoughts? Im getting around 50-80 fps in BF3 but i was hoping for a bit more since i look to keep my rig lasting for a while.

Thanks!! :hello: 

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April 10, 2012 3:33:47 PM

the cheapest would be to get another 580
you are getting playable framerates already, keep your rig up to date by upgrading once in a while
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April 10, 2012 3:38:46 PM

Since you already get outstanding performance in BF3 , yet, want some better frames, while also looking towards the future...

Get a 680----should get a very nice increase in performance ~20-30% at the minimum

Then SLI the 680 later on.

how much were you looking to get for that 570, and which model is it?
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April 10, 2012 4:23:57 PM

Griever114 said:
Thoughts? Im getting around 50-80 fps in BF3 but i was hoping for a bit more since i look to keep my rig lasting for a while.


Well, seeing as how you are getting very good frame rates in the most demanding game you're playing there is absolutely no reason to upgrade. I don't get why you think you need to upgrade your graphics card. You say that you want it to last for a while, if that is the case then wouldn't it be much more cost efficient to wait to upgrade it? By the time you actually notice a difference a better card will have come out.

So here's what you do. Keep your current system the way it is. When it starts providing inadequate performance for your uses then upgrade it at that point. There is no point in upgrading it now when there is nothing wrong with it.
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April 10, 2012 4:26:57 PM

One thing that caught my attention was that you currently have a 580 with a 570 as a physX card. You would have had a much better experience had you just bought 2 570's and put them in SLI, or 2 580's. It also shows me that cost may not be a factor.

Very few games use GPU accelerated PhysX, and in those cases, you'd still get better performance with SLI than wasting a high end card with PhysX. If you use Nvidia, go SLI over dedicated PhysX.

Now that leaves you with a dilemma. Getting a 580 and going sli is faster than a single 680, but going 2 580's with a 570 physX card is going to be hard on temps and noise. A single 680 would keep things reasonable on noise.

What GPU accelerated PhysX games do you play that require a dedicated PhysX card?
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April 10, 2012 5:03:52 PM

Thank you all for the replies thus far.

Just to answer some questions:

1. The 570 was a card i had from another computer. it was sitting around so i figured... what the hell, lets slap that puppy in the rig :) .
2. i am still learning configurations so bare with me. based on your posts it seems my pc is pretty good regarding fps. i thought most people want a minimum of 60 fps which is why i was thinking i was only getting average frames with everything on.
3. my thing is i dont want to "waste" the 570 or the 580 if i go to a 680. i figure im not wasting the 580 if i get another 580. but what about the 570?
4. performance, dual 580's do better than a single 680 correct? but i guess noise and temps are a factor.
5. the 570 is a: EVGA 012-P3-1570-AR GeForce GTX 570 (Fermi) 1280MB 320-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

lastly, im just concerned that if i wait too long the 580's will no longer be in production and i will lose out of the sli. how long would they remain in production?

THANKS!!!
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April 10, 2012 5:09:27 PM

Lulz @ people who say "get a 680 so you can SLI it later". That's probably what the reasoning was to get a 580. The person making this recommendation clearly isn't the sort of person who runs two old cards when they could have the latest thing. So let's be honest:

If you're the sort of person who would ever run SLI, get another 580, as better performance/cost.

If you're the sort of person who needs to have the latest thing get a 680 (and then replace it with a 780 when that comes out).

Fixed.
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April 15, 2012 7:08:53 PM

Get a second 580. Yes it will be slightly warmer and louder, but it makes more sense like anonymous said. You will get better performance than a single 680, and if that's all you're concerned with then there's your answer. Right now a 580 can be had for around 450ish if i'm not mistaken.
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April 17, 2012 2:00:16 AM

Best answer selected by Griever114.
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April 17, 2012 2:00:25 AM

Best answer selected by Griever114.
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April 17, 2012 2:01:07 AM

scopey86 said:
Get a second 580. Yes it will be slightly warmer and louder, but it makes more sense like anonymous said. You will get better performance than a single 680, and if that's all you're concerned with then there's your answer. Right now a 580 can be had for around 450ish if i'm not mistaken.


Thanks!That seems to be the plan :) 

Any thoughts on where i can sell the 570?
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April 17, 2012 9:17:05 PM

Best bets would be eBay, or perhaps forums on some hardware sites.
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April 18, 2012 1:31:30 AM

scopey86 said:
Best bets would be eBay, or perhaps forums on some hardware sites.


Thanks!
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April 18, 2012 6:27:15 PM

It takes a while, but if you build up a good repoire, OverClockersClub and Overclock.net are good places to buy/sell. There's also a marketplace here on Tom's.
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