Was buying the amd a10 5800k a mistake?

[cloud6483]

I know I just made a thread on this yesterday but I'm starting to regret it. I'm not an expert when it comes to specs but since the a10 5800k is some sort of apu, would it not be as powerful as an amd fx or something? I already have a GTX 660 Ti for graphics I don't need the integrated stuff.

 

[whatsthatnoise]

You shouldn't buy an APU if you don't want to use it's graphics. This entirely defeats the purpose of such a chip. The CPU "part" is slower than a 965+ Phenom II or FX chip.

Return it if possible.

E: Just to elaborate a little more; It's not a bad chip, but since you want to use a dedicated GPU, there are better options.

 

[cloud6483]

Sigh ok

 

[fazers_on_stun]

^ Yep, you should ask questions and do research, then buy a CPU. Not the other way around ..

 

[obsama1]

It's not slower than a PII or FX. It's faster than the 8150 in some circumstances. But, if you;re going to return it, you'll have to return the mobo as well. If you're going to get a new CPU, get the i5.

 

[cloud6483]

As long as i can max out games with decent framerates i can deal with keeping it until christmas or something

 

[jerry6]

yeah , a mistake I almost made looking at only passmark benchmark , but looked here http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/203?vs=675
and just kept my 1100 be , no real gains in the areas I am interested in , in fact slower in many

 

[cloud6483]

Meh if I send it back to newegg I have to wait forever to be able to get a new mobo and cpu. Poo.

 

[luciferano]

If you disable the graphics and overclock it, it would probably be able to overclock more than enough to perform excellently. The graphics is probably like half of the chips power consumption, so disabling it should leave a ton of thermal headroom.

 

[cloud6483]

wait so if i disable the graphics on the chip it'll run faster?

 

[luciferano]

wait so if i disable the graphics on the chip it'll run faster?

It should let you overclock excellently if you can disable the IGP of the A10. Like half of its power consumption is the IGP, so one might think that it should overclock excellently with its IGP disabled. IDK if you can fully disable the IGP because I don't have a trinity system, but we could look into this before returning it because maybe it can do the job.

 

[cloud6483]

oh cool thanks. the parts come on monday or tuesday. i dont know alot about overclocking either but i just know i should have alot of cooling haha

 

[Dandalf]

Or something that no one has mentioned yet: Buy an AMD 7xxx GPU and crossfire it with the on-die A10 GPU. AFAIK this is possible and will give you a boost in graphics performance. I don't know why you got an Nvidia card to use with an APU.

 

[cloud6483]

this is the first decent computer im trying to build, i dont know alot so whatever i can do ill just return things and get what you guys reccomend

 

[A Bad Day]

I'd say return the A10 and the motherboard, and get yourself at least an i3 (i5 K-edition if you want OCing) to pair it with the 660 Ti.

The Trinity/Llano is for budget gaming, and although it beats up i7s (without dedicated GPU(s)) in modern games, don't expect 1080p with max eyecandy and 60 Hz.

 

[cloud6483]

i dont plan on getting another monitor anytime soon since right now its at 1600x1200 which is fine with me. im still leaning toward returning but intel is a bit expensive right?

 

[luciferano]

i dont plan on getting another monitor anytime soon since right now its at 1600x1200 which is fine with me. im still leaning toward returning but intel is a bit expensive right?

i3 has no chance against an overclocked A10 with and without the IGP being disabled. If you go Intel for gaming, you get an i5 or you're wasting your money.

 

[whatsthatnoise]

An i3 isn't really more expansive and way better for gaming, paired with your 660 TI.

 

[luciferano]

I'd say return the A10 and the motherboard, and get yourself at least an i3 (i5 K-edition if you want OCing) to pair it with the 660 Ti.

The Trinity/Llano is for budget gaming, and although it beats up i7s (without dedicated GPU(s)) in modern games, don't expect 1080p with max eyecandy and 60 Hz.

An i3 has no chance of beating an overclocekd A10. If anything, that 660 Ti should be returned for a 660 non-Ti to get about the same performance at a significantly lower power consumption and saving almost $100.

Trinity is not just for low budget gaming. It can be for high end gaming if overclocked well.

An i3 isn't really more expansive and way better for gaming, paired with your 660 TI.

Even without overclocking, the i3 doesn't beat these A10s badly in gaming.They trade blows, depending on how well-threaded the game is. Again, if you go Intel, you get an i5 or you're wasting your money. The i3s have nothing against overclocked AMD CPUs that they don't have against the i5s.

 

[whatsthatnoise]

My point was more the possible upgrades one can do in a future with going Intel. But yes, an i5 would be the better choice performance wise, ofc. Than again it does cost quite a bit more money. An i3 is not a waste of money, except if you want to play a lot of BF3 multiplayer, maybe.

 

[esrever]

i dont plan on getting another monitor anytime soon since right now its at 1600x1200 which is fine with me. im still leaning toward returning but intel is a bit expensive right?

If I were you, I would return the board and the cpu unless you can't live without it. Also don't buy an i3 like previously said as its only as powerful as the A10 while costing the same. If you can wait, the FX cpus without the integrated graphics will come out in a few weeks most likely, might be a cheap way to get a more powerful quadcore at the same price as the A10. If you can afford it, an i5 is probably still the best choice for gaming.

That being said, the A10 shouldn't have a problem playing games max out at all when paired with a powerful graphics card.

 

[esrever]

My point was more the possible upgrades one can do in a future with going Intel. But yes, an i5 would be the better choice performance wise, ofc. Than again it does cost quite a bit more money. An i3 is not a waste of money, except if you want to play a lot of BF3 multiplayer, maybe.

the i3 is a waste of money since the A10 is just as fast and can overclock. The A10 is also cheaper...

 

[cloud6483]

I guess I'll keep the a10 for now because I can't afford an i5+mobo at the moment. Unless there's another amd proccessor right now that's a bit cheap and is better than the a10 I guess I could do that. By the way, thanks for all the posts. Helps alot

Edit: Christmas is probably the time where i can get an i5 but right now i have to stick with amd stuff. also you guys are saying the i3 isn't that good so...a10 it is?

 

[luciferano]

My point was more the possible upgrades one can do in a future with going Intel. But yes, an i5 would be the better choice performance wise, ofc. Than again it does cost quite a bit more money. An i3 is not a waste of money, except if you want to play a lot of BF3 multiplayer, maybe.

It is a waste of money. AMD's offerings are as good or better with overclocking in both performance per core and well-threaded performance.

 

[luciferano]

I guess I'll keep the a10 for now because I can't afford an i5+mobo at the moment. Unless there's another amd proccessor right now that's a bit cheap and is better than the a10 I guess I could do that. By the way, thanks for all the posts. Helps alot

Edit: Christmas is probably the time where i can get an i5 but right now i have to stick with amd stuff. also you guys are saying the i3 isn't that good so...a10 it is?

If you overclock, then the A10-5800K is better than any i3 and can be greatly so. Eve nat stock, they trade blows with minor wins and minor losses. i3s are good, just not as good while being comparably or even slightly more expensive.