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1000-1200.00 build for extensive 3dsmax/zbrush/after effects use

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June 8, 2012 9:27:36 PM

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Approximate Purchase Date: (the closer the better))

Budget Range: (1000-1200.00) Before / After Rebates

System Usage from Most to Least Important: (3dsmax/mudbox,Zbrush,after effects,photoshop and building and rendering large scenes and models most important and movies, games least important)

Parts Not Required: (keyboard, mouse, monitor(will upgrade to using 2 monitors when can afford), speakers, OS)

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: (e.g.: newegg.com, ebay or well known sites, tigerdirect to name another. not overlly picky.)

Country: (Canada)

Parts Preferences:

This is what im thinking, please let me know if everything is compatible and if its good for what i need and my budget.

-ATI 100-505606 FirePro V4800 1GB GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 Workstation Video Card 154.99
-Intel Core i7-3820 Sandy Bridge-E 3.6GHz (3.8GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 2011 130W Quad-Core 309.99
Desktop Processor BX80619i73820
-Sabertooth P67 200.00
-GeIL EVO CORSA Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) 221.49
Desktop Memory Model GOC332GB1600C10QC
-OCZ Agility 3 AGT3-25SAT3-120G 2.5" MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) 104.99
-COOLER MASTER eXtreme Power RS600-PCARE3-US 600W ATX12V V2.3 SLI Ready CrossFire 59.99
Ready Power Supply
-Antec Three Hundred Two Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case 69.99
with Upgraded 2 x USB 3.0 Total:
1121.44

I also have 2 , 1tb external plugin hardrives for storage. 1 for movies or non work related items. and
1 for work files such as models, renderings. I am thinking about the SSD I selected for speed. I will be
installing Windows 7, adobe suite, autodesk 3ds max, and zbrush on it. beyond that not, almost nothing else. The prices i have found for all the items are mostly newegg.com and they do not include tax or shipping which will put me over budget. i need to stay as close or lower to this as possible.

Thanks you so much for your help. I have researched heavily and am no expert, to come up with this. i would hate to see it wouldnt even work or something. (compatibility) I have chosen a lot of what ive chosen for preview in after effects, rendering in 3ds max, and a lot of editting in photoshop. (often 6 or 7 windows and moving around graphics)
June 8, 2012 9:48:44 PM

Your going to need an after market cpu heat sink...that 3820 doesn't come with one. Look at the CM EVO 212 for a quick and cheap fix for that. I would look at Corsair, G.Skill or Mushkin RAM and not that Geil, and also look at the OCZ ZT/ZS 550w psu.
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June 8, 2012 11:02:04 PM

alandavies81 said:
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Approximate Purchase Date: (the closer the better))

Budget Range: (1000-1200.00) Before / After Rebates

System Usage from Most to Least Important: (3dsmax/mudbox,Zbrush,after effects,photoshop and building and rendering large scenes and models most important and movies, games least important)

Parts Not Required: (keyboard, mouse, monitor(will upgrade to using 2 monitors when can afford), speakers, OS)

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: (e.g.: newegg.com, ebay or well known sites, tigerdirect to name another. not overlly picky.)

Country: (Canada)

Parts Preferences:

This is what im thinking, please let me know if everything is compatible and if its good for what i need and my budget.

-ATI 100-505606 FirePro V4800 1GB GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 Workstation Video Card 154.99
-Intel Core i7-3820 Sandy Bridge-E 3.6GHz (3.8GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 2011 130W Quad-Core 309.99
Desktop Processor BX80619i73820
-Sabertooth P67 200.00
-GeIL EVO CORSA Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) 221.49
Desktop Memory Model GOC332GB1600C10QC
-OCZ Agility 3 AGT3-25SAT3-120G 2.5" MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) 104.99
-COOLER MASTER eXtreme Power RS600-PCARE3-US 600W ATX12V V2.3 SLI Ready CrossFire 59.99
Ready Power Supply
-Antec Three Hundred Two Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case 69.99
with Upgraded 2 x USB 3.0 Total:
1121.44

I also have 2 , 1tb external plugin hardrives for storage. 1 for movies or non work related items. and
1 for work files such as models, renderings. I am thinking about the SSD I selected for speed. I will be
installing Windows 7, adobe suite, autodesk 3ds max, and zbrush on it. beyond that not, almost nothing else. The prices i have found for all the items are mostly newegg.com and they do not include tax or shipping which will put me over budget. i need to stay as close or lower to this as possible.

Thanks you so much for your help. I have researched heavily and am no expert, to come up with this. i would hate to see it wouldnt even work or something. (compatibility) I have chosen a lot of what ive chosen for preview in after effects, rendering in 3ds max, and a lot of editting in photoshop. (often 6 or 7 windows and moving around graphics)


*edit-- changes, adittions, thanks to "why_me" and "maui67"

-COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 EVO RR-212E-20PK-R2 Continuous
Direct Contact 120mm Sleeve CPU Cooler Compatible with latest
Intel 2011/1366/1155 and AMD FM1/AM3+ 29.99
-ASRock X79 Extreme3 LGA 2011 Intel X79 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard 254.99
-ATI 100-505606 FirePro V4800 1GB GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 Workstation Video Card 154.99
-Intel Core i7-3820 Sandy Bridge-E 3.6GHz (3.8GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 2011 130W Quad-Core 309.99
Desktop Processor BX80619i73820
-OCZ Agility 3 AGT3-25SAT3-120G 2.5" MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) 104.99
-Antec Three Hundred Two Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case 69.99
with Upgraded 2 x USB 3.0
-OCZ ZS Series OCZ-ZS550W power supply 76.99
-CORSAIR XMS 32GB (4 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop 219.49
Memory Model CMX32GX3M4A1600C11

Total
1021.42
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June 8, 2012 11:30:35 PM

would intel i7-2600k be better as this is for 3d production, rather than playing games? i7-2600k seems to rate better for 3d and is cheaper
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June 8, 2012 11:53:14 PM

alandavies81 said:
would intel i7-2600k be better as this is for 3d production, rather than playing games? i7-2600k seems to rate better for 3d and is cheaper


You are correct, the i7-2600K would be cheaper. My opinion (for what it's worth) would be that for your intended use the i7-3820 along with the LGA 2011 and its quad channel memory controller would provide better performance. You would have to try and find some benchmarks and/or testimonies from other people that use the applications you plan to use in order to determine if the extra money spent is worth it. If you were primarily gaming, then an i7-2600K/i5-2500K would be preferable.
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June 9, 2012 12:39:45 AM

maui67 said:
You are correct, the i7-2600K would be cheaper. My opinion (for what it's worth) would be that for your intended use the i7-3820 along with the LGA 2011 and its quad channel memory controller would provide better performance. You would have to try and find some benchmarks and/or testimonies from other people that use the applications you plan to use in order to determine if the extra money spent is worth it. If you were primarily gaming, then an i7-2600K/i5-2500K would be preferable.



Thank you for your help. sincerely. I am happy with this build. This is what i found, and with your opinion. I am sticking with what you guys have helped me come up with. thanks again.
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For $285, the Core i7-3820 is a worthwhile entry as it repeatedly exceeded the Core i7-2600K's performance output. The new SB-E chip looked particularly favorable in our encoding benchmarks, while its showing was satisfactory in the application tests, in which it managed to match the 2600K. It didn't do as well in our gaming tests, as it was disappointing to see the processor fall in the vicinity of the last-generation i7-920 and i5-750.

To be fair, the i7-3960X isn't all that impressive when gaming either, though it's at least on par with the 2600K. I believe the SB-E parts struggle here because they have inferior memory performance to the 2500K and 2600K. Despite the newer chips supporting quad-channel RAM, the SB-E processors have a higher memory latency, which attributes for the loss in bandwidth.

Interestingly when measuring bandwidth performance using SiSoftware Sandra, as many tech sites do, the SB-E processors appear to have a memory bandwidth in excess of 35GB/s, roughly 75% more than the 2600K. Yet AIDA64 Extreme Edition shows the 3820 and 3960X with a read/write bandwidth of just 18GB/s and 15GB/s, which is slower than the LGA1155 processors.

In removing two of the four memory modules for dual-channel operation, we've found that the latency improves and so does the bandwidth. This begs the question: do SB-E processors "require" quad-channel memory? We don't think so. The only benefit is the extra memory capacity due to the inclusion of eight DIMM slots versus the four you get on LGA1155.

When you consider that those investing in the 3820 or 2600K are likely building a high-end rig, they won't be after a budget motherboard and high-end Z68/X79 boards tend to carry similar price tags. For instance, the Asrock Z68 Extreme7 costs $270 while the X79 Extreme7 is slightly cheaper at $260.

In other words, regardless of whether you purchase an 3820 or 2600K, a high-end build should cost roughly the same. By opting for the 3820, you get a platform that supports more RAM and PCI Express 3.0 along with more PCIe lanes. Along with features tipping in favor of the 3820, we believe it provides the best overall performance and for that reason, we would choose it over the i7-2600K or 2700K. As a value alternative however, matching the slightly slower i7-2500K with a more affordable Z68 motherboard will likely result in a powerful enough combination for a wide majority of users -- that just happens to be our current combo pick in the Enthusiast PC's buying guide build.
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