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Will this computer run BF3 at a reasonable FPS?

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June 8, 2012 10:55:24 PM

I will be using it to play bf3 record edit and maybe cod.

CPU-AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.4GHz Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6819103727

Mobo-GIGABYTE GA-970A-UD3 AM3+ AMD 970 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813128519

GPU-EVGA GeForce GTX 560 (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU-SeaSonic M12II 620 Bronze 620W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817151095

Memory-G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820231311

Case-COOLER MASTER HAF 912 RC-912-KKN1 Black SECC/ ABS Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811119233

optical drive-ASUS 24X DVD Burner
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6827135204

already have a 1b 2.5 drive.
with windows 7 the total is $732.92
Max budget around 750
June 8, 2012 11:16:10 PM

An intel i5 would do much better. Check this out.
CPU: i5 2310 quad core $180
MB: BIOSTAR TZ77B ATX $100
PSU: CORSAIR Builder Series CX600 V2 $70($50 after MIR)

Your total of PSU,CPU,MOBO=$320 vs $350($330 after MIR). Slightly over budget but def worth it. But yes it should play bf3 at high(ultra requires 1.5gb of vram).

Also I`m not positive if you`re getting the full version of windows home premium...if you are switch to the OEM and save alot of money. OEM just means if you switch mobos you can`t use that copy of windows. But if you get the same mobo it will still work.

Hope I helped! good luck with the build!

a b B Homebuilt system
June 9, 2012 2:19:53 AM

What resolution will you be playing at? 720p yes that will be enough for ultra settings, 1080p you will probably have to lower settings.
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June 9, 2012 3:33:32 AM

would this be better?
CPU-Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Mobo-GIGABYTE GA-H77-DS3H LGA 1155 Intel H77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GPU-EVGA GeForce GTX 560 (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814130660

PSU-CORSAIR Builder Series CX600 V2 600W ATX12V v2.3 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Memory-G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820231311

Case-COOLER MASTER HAF 912 RC-912-KKN1 Black SECC/ ABS Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811119233

optical drive-ASUS 24X DVD Burner
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6827135204
a c 118 B Homebuilt system
June 9, 2012 4:18:21 AM

andystanley said:
An intel i5 would do much better. Check this out.
CPU: i5 2310 quad core $180
MB: BIOSTAR TZ77B ATX $100
PSU: CORSAIR Builder Series CX600 V2 $70($50 after MIR)

Your total of PSU,CPU,MOBO=$320 vs $350($330 after MIR). Slightly over budget but def worth it. But yes it should play bf3 at high(ultra requires 1.5gb of vram).

Also I`m not positive if you`re getting the full version of windows home premium...if you are switch to the OEM and save alot of money. OEM just means if you switch mobos you can`t use that copy of windows. But if you get the same mobo it will still work.

Hope I helped! good luck with the build!



For battlefield 3, an Intel i5 is going to cost more and offer no real advantage, as the game is GPU limited more than anything (most games are GPU limited in fact):

http://www.techspot.com/review/458-battlefield-3-perfor...

Yes an I-5 is a slightly stronger CPU, however, the extra money instead of buying an i5 should be spent on a stronger video card. I would keep the Phenom II 965 and see if you can fit a 7850 video card into the budget somehow this is going to offer you the best advantage for this particular game. Battlefield 3 does not care what CPU you use so much, although for multiplayer, you will definitely want a quad, which a Phenom II is.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
a c 118 B Homebuilt system
June 9, 2012 4:33:53 AM

This is what I'd do, and it should fit roughly into the same budget as what you're looking for:


CPU-$120- Phenom II 965
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Motherboard- Asrock 970 $80
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Video Card- Radeon 7850 $260
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAM-Gskill 2x4GB $47
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Case- CoolerMaster HAF 912 $60
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Power- Corsair CX500 $60
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CD/DVD Burner- $18
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Total: $645 without Windows 7
745 with windows 7
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Note: I really don't want to get into another fight over the Intel vs AMD thing tonight, but for the record, I own a system with a more expensive i5-2400 w/ and older but stronger GTX 460 than the 550 TI in my sig's build. it doesn't do anything much better than my cheaper Phenom II for gaming. Contrary to much ridiculous debate.
a c 118 B Homebuilt system
June 9, 2012 4:52:58 AM

Quote:
If you want more raw performance for your money, but don't mind heat and higher power consumption, the EVGA GTX 480 at $210 is a bargain.

Or that
June 9, 2012 5:05:55 AM

nekulturny said:
For battlefield 3, an Intel i5 is going to cost more and offer no real advantage, as the game is GPU limited more than anything (most games are GPU limited in fact


Battlefield 3 multiplayer is a whole different beast than Battlefield 3 singleplayer, which is what most benchmarks are made with.
BF3 singleplayer only uses 2 cores. BF3 multiplayer can use 8.

I'd personally buy a FX8120 or FX8150 for BF3.

some "proof"
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2011/10/11/amd_bulldozer...
June 9, 2012 5:09:04 AM

If you'd overclock your gpu you'll be able to play at 1920x1080 minus antaliasing deferred. Also keep antistrophic filtering at 4x since it could cause exceed your vram amount. The phenom at stock from my experience won't hold back cards that perform like a HD 6970 in games that are gpu hungry. I benchmarked a phenom ii with 3 core active at 4.0 Ghz core/2.8 Ghz cpu nb and it kept up with my heavily overclocked 5850 in 64 player maps in battlefield 3. It wasn't thorough but I think my benchmark better represents your situation since your using a 560 gtx.
a c 118 B Homebuilt system
June 9, 2012 5:16:10 AM

And as far as COD, I've been playing MW3 the past day or so, I've had FRAPS on it, with the rig in my sig, I've easily gotten well over 60FPS stable. (actually closer to 100). and a 7850 or a GTX 480 are a hell of a lot stronger cards than an overclocked 550 TI.
a c 118 B Homebuilt system
June 9, 2012 5:22:41 AM

molo9000 said:
Battlefield 3 multiplayer is a whole different beast than Battlefield 3 singleplayer, which is what most benchmarks are made with.
BF3 singleplayer only uses 2 cores. BF3 multiplayer can use 8.

I'd personally buy a FX8120 or FX8150 for BF3.

some "proof"
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2011/10/11/amd_bulldozer...

You can go that route too, I was trying to keep it in budget with a stronger video card. I will say that the 8120 and the 8150 are the exact same CPU, just different multiplier settings, since both of the have unlocked multipliers, theres no reason to to buy an 8150 over the 8120. But for $170 bucks from newegg, if they were that priced when I build the rig in my sig, hell yes I would have bought one since they're not much more than what I paid for my 975.
a c 118 B Homebuilt system
June 9, 2012 5:24:27 AM

Quote:
The FX 8120 is at a good price right now:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

It will need overclocking ALOT to keep up however.



My god, is Recon recommending a Bulldozer??? Quick, screenshot this!!!!!
:lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol: 

But as far as overclocking, anyone considering doing a homebuild should be overclocking, in my opinion.
June 9, 2012 1:59:05 PM

everyone says the fx are bad. is that true?
June 9, 2012 2:10:58 PM

what about a fx-6100?
June 9, 2012 4:31:11 PM

The FX CPUs aren't bad. They offer similar or sometimes even better raw performance than the equivalently priced Intel chips.

The reason they are often considered bad is because they achieve that performance by having more, but less powerful cores vs Intel's strategy of less but more powerful cores.
As a result the FX processors can only beat Intel processors in sufficiently parallelized software, i.e. software that can fully utilize 6 or 8 cores.
Most games only use 2, 3 or 4 cores and therefore Intel has the advantage here.
BF3 is one of the few exceptions.


The FX6100 is a good choice IMO, seeing that Intel only offers dual cores in that price range.
a c 118 B Homebuilt system
June 9, 2012 5:36:59 PM

Maxwh2o said:
everyone says the fx are bad. is that true?

Are they as good as they could be? No. Are they bad? No. The problem is you get enough people repeating something enough, you get yourself an "old wives tale". They'd have you believe that an FX CANT do the job. This simply is not true. Under overclocking conditions, the FX-8120 can step right up to the more expensive Intel 2500K. The most compelling argument against FX that could be made was they were too expensive for the performance they offered, this is no longer true as the prices have been dropped.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1210060/fx8120-vs-2500k-benc...

As far as the 6100, I would say if you can't afford the 8120, get the Phenom II. Something you need to understand about the FX CPUs is that they are not true 6 cores, FX 4100s are not true quads, and FX-8 cores are not true 8 cores. They are at least in concept similar to Intels Hyperthreading in which they "pretend" to have twice the cores they actually do have. So an FX-6100 is for all intents and purposes a tri-core CPU. A Phenom II is a true quad.

On the topic of AMD v. Intel, you also need to know from a consumer standpoint that Intel outsells AMD 5 to 1 in the market, and since theres only 2 companies making CPUs, its natural that one is going to be "the bad guy". 10 years ago, this was Intel.
a c 118 B Homebuilt system
June 9, 2012 9:41:06 PM

It does yes. My Asus Sabertooth has this feature as well. You click the "extreme" setting in BIOS, on my CPU by default it put it at 3.9GHZ, although I manually dialed it in further to 4.0. Phenom IIs tend to top out around 4.2-4.4GHZ, but 4.0 is a pretty respectable OC for them.
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