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A10-5800K Vs FX-8150

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October 8, 2012 6:20:42 PM

Hi guys,

I' m not too understand the APU things too well so I have to do a bit of research and the bench mark is about the same for these two.

Should I be considering A10-5800K or FX-8150 with other specs using same hardware ?

My main purpose of computer is

1 - Watch Movie
2 - Do some photoshop
3 - A lot of Office work
4 - a little bit of VirtualBOX or Vmware Workstation
5 - Games (10%) time

As both will use water cooling system, which one will be overclocked better ?

More about : a10 5800k 8150

October 8, 2012 10:05:59 PM

i suggest waiting as the new AMD Piledriver is due to release this month
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October 9, 2012 1:36:29 AM

Well, that will suck for sure.

I have seem the piledriver name but haven't see any release date on when we can purchase them. Do we have a release date?

Without the FM 2nd generation, for the above two, is FX-8150 better or vice versa.

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October 9, 2012 1:55:49 AM

An APU is a CPU with integrated graphics. The A10 has quite capable graphics for most games if you are willing to compromise on detail settings and sometimes also the resolution you game on.

For your use, the A10 seems fitting. No need for a separate graphics card.
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October 9, 2012 10:10:47 AM

Ditto the A10 5800K should be more than enough for your needs.

A A-Series strengths;

1] Multimedia
2] Rendering and video
3] Casual gaming
4] Affordability

its checked all your boxes.

Performance wise you can't really compare a FX to a APU, while it is true that some aspects will show it being better the FX is still a fully fledge x86 processor while the APU's are watered down x86 cores, but that doesn't mean that it won't perform as well or better in some instances. As before all your needs tick the APU's strengths.
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October 9, 2012 10:14:18 AM

You could always buy something Intel :) 
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October 9, 2012 11:11:22 AM

From what I can see, it seems correct that A10-5800K is around the same performance as FX-8150.

What I did not understand is, why a 4 Cores can do the same as a 8 cores CPU, this looks that the FX is fishy from several perspectives.

Do we know when the piledriver will be on shelf ? They say Oct but didn't specify the date.

So what you are saying is that if I buy A10-5800K, there is a build-in GPU that I dont need a graphic card?

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October 9, 2012 11:17:11 AM

stken99 said:
From what I can see, it seems correct that A10-5800K is around the same performance as FX-8150.

What I did not understand is, why a 4 Cores can do the same as a 8 cores CPU, this looks that the FX is fishy from several perspectives.

Do we know when the piledriver will be on shelf ? They say Oct but didn't specify the date.

So what you are saying is that if I buy A10-5800K, there is a build-in GPU that I dont need a graphic card?


1] No the 5800K doesnt always perform on par with the 8150 it is only in isolated instances but in gaming and general the FX 8150 is faster.

2] 8150 is based on first generation modular architecture, the premise is shared resourses, but there are downsides to that approach, needless to say BD has fundamental issues at metal level that crimps its performance in notably single threaded execution, PD addresses it a bit but SR is the complete fix.

3] PD should be out sometime around the 20th or so.
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October 9, 2012 1:55:44 PM

sarinaide, as of today, will the AM3+ mb support the SR or is that still to be decided?
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October 9, 2012 2:36:24 PM

Kaviri will support AM3+ for FX parts, FM2 for A-Series parts, this is expected to be the case right through to Excavator. While the socket is consistent I do believe the chipset will be updated with newer revisions of boards though.
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October 9, 2012 3:21:56 PM

Thanks for the info sarinaide. I'll have fun with this 8150 build till the SteamRoller arrives.
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October 9, 2012 3:31:57 PM

Things should only be clarified by next year, the aim is socket consistency.
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October 9, 2012 4:53:34 PM

stken99 said:
Hi guys,

I' m not too understand the APU things too well so I have to do a bit of research and the bench mark is about the same for these two.

Should I be considering A10-5800K or FX-8150 with other specs using same hardware ?

My main purpose of computer is

1 - Watch Movie
2 - Do some photoshop
3 - A lot of Office work
4 - a little bit of VirtualBOX or Vmware Workstation
5 - Games (10%) time

As both will use water cooling system, which one will be overclocked better ?


Benchmarks are about the same when 1-4 threads are used, the FX 8150 has twice as many cores as the A10-5800K and is much faster when they're used, the FX 8150 is easily 50% faster.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6347/amd-a10-5800k-a8-5600k-review-trinity-on-the-desktop-part-2/4
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October 9, 2012 11:48:49 PM

So the decision is likely the following

Option 1 -
Wait until Oct 20th for PileDriver if you want to continue with the FX series.

Option 2
Just get on A-Series as BD series are considered defected until PD.

Option 3
Just go with FX 8150 until SR is out since PD won't make that much of difference.

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October 10, 2012 12:53:34 AM

How much do you have to spend$$$??? The A10-5800k is $130 at Newegg and the 8150 is $190 (I got it when it dropped to $170). With the 8150 you have to buy a video card. The PileDriver, 8350, is due out in late October and if the original price of the 8150 is any guide it will be @$250 min.

What other parts of the computer do you have or intend to buy?
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October 10, 2012 2:55:34 AM

stken99 said:
So the decision is likely the following

Option 1 -
Wait until Oct 20th for PileDriver if you want to continue with the FX series.

Option 2
Just get on A-Series as BD series are considered defected until PD.

Option 3
Just go with FX 8150 until SR is out since PD won't make that much of difference.

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You will save more money getting a A10 like 60$ on the CPU and 70$ on the GPU(top get A10 level performance), Also if needed i think the FM2 boards will be compatible with the steamroller APU next year.
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October 10, 2012 4:36:44 AM

I guess I'll ask the expert here.

I already have Video Card - Unfortunately it's a GTX 560 - not ATI stuffs. As I dont really do graphical stuffs LOT, so I will leave that until when I needed.

From price wise, I see that the A10 and FX 8150 are different by

I just have to choose the motherboard + CPU, all others are already standard stuffs, DDR3 1866Mhz 16GB, SDD, water cooling H70.

The fact is I purchased already ASUS M5A99FX + AMD FX-8150 (160 + 190), I'm wondering if I should just return the FX-8150 and purchased A10-5800K and wait until A10-SR version until next year. ( I get to saved 170-130=40$)

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October 10, 2012 7:48:10 AM

stken99 said:
I guess I'll ask the expert here.

I already have Video Card - Unfortunately it's a GTX 560 - not ATI stuffs. As I dont really do graphical stuffs LOT, so I will leave that until when I needed.

From price wise, I see that the A10 and FX 8150 are different by

I just have to choose the motherboard + CPU, all others are already standard stuffs, DDR3 1866Mhz 16GB, SDD, water cooling H70.

The fact is I purchased already ASUS M5A99FX + AMD FX-8150 (160 + 190), I'm wondering if I should just return the FX-8150 and purchased A10-5800K and wait until A10-SR version until next year. ( I get to saved 170-130=40$)


Nah don't return it, thats a fine setup and you have spent the money those components are perfect.


If you did go with a trinity A-series part the A10 5800K, FM2 A85 motherboard and faster RAM 1866+ then you are set well. Even if you run the 560 its still going to game well.
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October 10, 2012 7:55:36 AM

The FX and the A10 are completely different animals and not really comparable.
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October 10, 2012 4:44:03 PM

I guess I'll stick to what I have, that motherboard will support also SR series, I supposed that the socket should be consistent?
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