Radeon 7850 Vrs Radeon 6950
Which one is better, Radeon 7850 or Radeon 6950? I heard they're very similar. How future proof would both of these cards be?
i still have a 6950 2GB version and it is bios updated to 6970 since 6950 is just 6970 with 1 part disabled
i really like my 6950 but i think you can get a better deal with a 7850 if you plan on sli
it will use less power than a 6950 hence lower voltage for PSU
if you do not want to overclock a 570 is a bit better than 7850 just saying
but if you do want to overclock it, there will pretty much be no difference OC570 vs OC 7850 plus 7850 has more VRAM so i would go with 7850 OC
AMD doesn't have SLI... AMD has Crossfire. PSUs don't vary in voltage, you meant lower wattage. Otherwise, sure... Except for two particular 7850s (that I know of, there might be more) that have huge factory overclocks and beat the more expenisve reference GTX 570s even without an overclock.
At this price point, it's not GTX 570 versus Radeon 7850, it's really GTX 480 versus Radeon 7850 because although the 480 and 570 are about on-par with each other, the 480 has a little more VRAM and is far cheaper. The 7850 gets my recommendation, but some people prefer the GTX 480.
At the moment the 7850 is regarded by most people as the best bang for the buck out there. I think you would have to take it over the 6000 series due to the technological improvements alone. The 7000 series has at least twice the DX11 tessellation performance of the 6000 series. Plus you are dealing with 40nm vs 28nm fabrication. At this price point it would likely be best to go with the newer technology.
shell shocke said:Which one is better, Radeon 7850 or Radeon 6950? I heard they're very similar. How future proof would both of these cards be?
imo 7850 is better. it's smaller, more power efficient, faster too. since 7850 is 6950's replacement, i'd say the 7850 will be around a little longer.
'future-proof' is not possible. your tech becomes outdated the moment you buy them. you can play games at highest settings only until newer demanding games come out and you're playing with gfx settings turned down for the rest of the time.
here's some links 6950 vs 7850:
if you have budget and specs, you could also check out radeon 7870 or gtx 670.
later on after my build and I wanted to upgrade if I were to have around $600 to spend, $300 towards MoBo and CPU, the rest around $300 (Give or take $50) What kind of GPU should I buy? Should I Crossfire the Radeon 7850's and Upgrade my PSU later on? How much of a performance boost will there be? Thanks.
shell shocke said:later on after my build and I wanted to upgrade if I were to have around $600 to spend, $300 towards MoBo and CPU, the rest around $300 (Give or take $50) What kind of GPU should I buy? Should I Crossfire the Radeon 7850's and Upgrade my PSU later on? How much of a performance boost will there be? Thanks.
$300 for both motherboard and cpu might not get you any worthy upgrades. although that'd depend on your current specs which you haven't stated.
crossfiring 7850 might be a logical path if you own a 7850 already. you'll need a psu that can power two 7850s, so if you don't have one, you might need to upgrade. as for performance boost, google 7850 cf performance. in the future, the drivers will be different, games will be different, so it's hard to tell.
A PSU that can power two 7850s doesn't need to be a high wattage PSU. 500-600w should do it well, but I'd get ~750w to have some headroom for overclocking and such without getting close to a PSU's rated wattage.
Like De5_roy said, $300 for a motherboard and CPU can be difficult. However, it can also be very easy.
FX-8120 = $170 and a good $130 motherboard such as an ASRock Extreme4 could do excellently. An FX 8120 with one core per module disabled cuts Intel's ~50% performance per MHz advantage over FX down to a mere ~25-30% advantage (like Phenom II versus Nehalem) while cutting the 8120's power usage at stock to below the FX-4100's power usage due to its binning being better than the 4100. This is AMD's best competition against Intel. Versus the slightly more expensive i5-2310 (cheapest SB i5), the FX can easily overclock to 4.4-5GHz on air and the most that the 2310 can usually hit is about 3.5GHz to 3.7GHz, putting the two as roughly on-par. Only the K edition i5s and up will beat it.
FX-6100 = $140 and a high quality $140-$160 motherboard. Same as FX-8120, but only disable one core per module for the first two modules and leave the third module untouched if you want two fast cores and two slow cores or disable one core from all three modules if you want three fast cores. Not quite as good as the FX-8120, but for the 7850, should not make a difference in gaming performance when both are overclocked, so the $30 price difference might sway you.
i3-2120 = $130 and a good $130 motherboard, you save a little money. It's not as fast as an i5 or FX options (with the minor mod mentioned above, without that minor mod AMD is not viable in this situation), but it can handle a stock 7850 with only minor bottle-necking.
i5-2310 = $180 and a good $100-130 motherboard if you can go a little over. You don't need a top end motherboard for any of these systems, even for overclocking to around 3.7GHz on the i5 and over 4.5GHz on the FX. Some cheap motherboards have improved in quality compared to more expensive motherboards dramatically.
Good, cheap AMD boards:
Asus $125 after MIR free shipping
Gigabyte $125 after MIR free shipping
ASRock Extreme3 $127.55
Good, cheap Intel boards:
MSI $120 free shipping
Asus $132.55 after MIR and shipping