~$1500-$2000 Build

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Approximate Purchase Date: Anywhere from 1-3 months

Budget Range: $1500 ideally. I'm willing to go to a max of $2000, but the increase needs to be well justified.

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, Movies, and Music

Parts Not Required: Monitor, Mouse, Keyboard, OS, and G.SKILL Ares Series 8GB RAM

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Newegg gives the best product details and user reviews, I can find where I'll purchase it on my own

Country: USA

Parts Preferences: None really

Overclocking: Yes

SLI or Crossfire: Not yet, but build should have the capacity for the future

Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080


Hey everyone. I've been a member for a while and have given a fair bit of advice in this section, but now that it's time for me to do my own, I wanted to get some feedback on this build. That and I was looking to see if someone could answer a few of my more specific questions about elements of my build. This is what I have so far...

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/9TDt
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/9TDt/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/9TDt/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Microcenter)
- I can't think of any reason why anyone would suggest a different CPU to me, I wont be doing any content creation, video editing, etc;

CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($84.99 @ NCIX US)
-I know Ivy Bridge gets hot, but I still plan to overclock it a little. I'm hoping this cooler will give a little more headroom, but I'm simply not going to try water cooling. I may actually go as far as to replace the thermal grease under the IHS to get more thermal head room. I've seen numbers 10-15C less after people have done that (yes I know its dangerous).

Motherboard: MSI Z77A-GD65 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($179.99 @ Amazon)
- I'm open to changes in the mobo, but I would require a good set of points on why to change. I trust MSI's quality and I'm liking the features and price point on this board.

Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($57.99 @ Newegg)
-Already purchased

Hard Drive: Samsung 830 Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($159.00 @ B&H)
- I may get the 256Gb version, depends on how much money I feel like throwing at this build at my time of purchase. I feel like I read somewhere that you need to keep some of the capacity of an SSD unused for shuffling data or something along those lines. If I didn't just dream that, how much capacity would that be and would it be alright for me to create a partition so I could be sure not to surpass that limit?

-Also the mechanical storage is where I would REALLY appreciate some input. My family has a collection of literally hundreds of DVDs (I could get a more exact number later if necessary) and I just wasn't sure the best way to go about getting them on the computer and if doing so was even strictly legal? I'm thinking that two 2Tb drives should be enough for my needs, but could i get away with 5400rpm for video playback or would 7200rpm be necessary or better suited for it?

Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 680 2GB Video Card ($547.86 @ Newegg)
- I figure if I'm going with a 680 I might as well pay a bit extra for the Twin Frozr III and enjoy a cooler quieter card.

Case: Antec DF-85 ATX Full Tower Case ($139.98 @ NCIX US)
- Once again, Icould probably be convinced to change, but I really like the style and functionality of this case. I would normally go for a case in the HAF series, but a friend of mine has one and it would really bug me to get one now. Maybe that's stupid but I can't help it.

Power Supply: Antec 1000W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($271.82 @ Newegg)
- I need at least 76 Amps on the 12V line if I decide to SLI my 680 in the future. If I did the math right, this gives me 80. I figure i would go a little overboard and get the nice fully modular Antec 80+ Platinum rated PSU since I had to get a 1000 watt one to meet the amperage requirement for SLI.

Optical Drive: Asus BC-12B1ST/BLK/B/AS Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer ($55.41 @ NCIX US)
-I have a few blu rays I want to be able to watch, I figure this should do the trick/

Total: $1687.03
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-06-11 01:27 EDT-0400)



I'm also considering going for a 670 and therefore a cheaper PSU that would only need 70 amps. Haven't quite made up my mind on the 670 vs 680 thing, any thoughts on the extra cost versus the gain in performance on the 680?

Any and all feedback is appreciated guys! I just want to make sure that everything is going to be perfect since I'm spending so much money on it!!!
 

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That's a pretty decent build to start with. The 1K PSU isn't needed even with 2 x 680 running - the 680 uses half the power that the 580 and 480 do. I'm not the biggest fan of MSI - I've had more than one bad motherboard from them. I know their video cards are good but I just can't recommend their motherboards due to the failures I've experienced.

On a $1500 - $2000 build here's what I would recommend:


Case: Corsair Carbide 500R - $139.99 ($10.00 MIR)
PSU: PC Power & Cooling Silencer MKII 750W - $109.99 ($20.00 MIR)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD5H - $199.99
CPU: 3.4GHz Intel Core i5-3570K - $239.99
Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 - $85.99
RAM: 8GB Crucial Ballistix Sport 1600MHz 1.5V - $49.99
SSD: 128GB OCZ Vertex 4 - $129.99
HD: 2TB Samsung Ecogreen F4 - $119.99
Optical: LG Blu Ray Burner - $79.99
Video Card: EVGA Geforce GTX 670 FTW - $419.99 ($10.00 MIR)
OS: Windows 7 Home Premium - $99.99

Total: $1,682.89 - $40.00 MIR = $1,642.89
 
you don't need to spend $2k for a gaming pc for 1080p setup.here's what i would suggest-
you already have a good ram kit.
Asus 24x dvd burner-
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135204
NZXT Phantom White Full Tower-
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146067
F4 2TB -
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152245
Corsair TX750 V2-
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139021
Asus P8Z77-V -
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131820
i5 3570k-
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116504
Nzxt 200mm fan-
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835146007
Cooler master Hyper 612 PWM-
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103106
Mushkin Enhanced Chronos Deluxe 240GB ssd-
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226226
Asus DCII GTX 670 2GB-
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121637
Total:$1570 before rebates
note:the case is excellent,here's a detailed review-
http://www.guru3d.com/article/nzxt-phantom-review/
the power supply is more than enough for SLi and overclocking. receives a solid 9.5 pn jonnyguru-
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story5&reid=230
That board is a great overclocker and supports almost every possible feature you need.
throw that 200mm fan on top of your phantom to improve ventilation.
hyper 612 pwm is a highly recommended cooler.here's a detailed review that shows it's awesomeness-
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Cooler-Master-Hyper-612-PWM-CPU-Cooler-Review/1398
Asus DCII is a great custom cooler from Asus.it has a lot of overclocking potential.take a look here-
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/GeForce_GTX_670_Direct_Cu_II/33.html
a solid 10 from Techpowerup.
i hope your build goes well and enjoy ;)
 
I left the memory out since you bought it already ;) PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($239.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($85.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme6 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Hard Drive: Mushkin Chronos 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($95.99 @ Newegg)
Hard Drive: Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($167.85 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card ($419.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master Storm Trooper ATX Full Tower Case ($136.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair 750W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus BW-12B1ST/BLK/G/AS Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($74.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $1471.75
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-06-11 06:24 EDT-0400)
 
This case down below was just released a few months ago and Cooler Master gave it all the latest goodies.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119257 $129.99 FREE SHIPPING
COOLER MASTER HAF XM RC-922XM-KKN1 Black Mesh, Plastic, Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case

http://www.coolermaster.com/product.php?product_id=6821 <----- another look at that case along with links to professional online reviews

This XFX psu down below is manufactured by Seasonic and it's modular which makes for a nice clean build without the clutter of unused cables.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207016 $137.99 - $127.99 after mail-in rebate card
XFX PRO750W XXX Edition Semi-Modular 80Plus Silver 750 Watt Power Supply

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.977662 $264.98 save: $15.00 FREE SHIPPING
ASRock Z77 Extreme6 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
Seagate Barracuda ST2000DM001 2TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/z77-extreme6-z77a-gd65-z77h2-a2x,3187.html <----- review of that board w/benchmarks done here on Toms

http://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/Z77%20Extreme6/ <---- another look at that board along with a link to the latest bios

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.972494 $304.98 save: $10.00 FREE SHIPPING
Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000 BX80637I53570K
LITE-ON Black 12X Blu-ray Burner with Blu Ray 3D Feature SATA IHBS112-04 - OEM

The IB cpu o/c to an easy 4.2Ghz without adding voltage (no heat). 4.2Ghz is equivalent to 4.5Ghz on a Sandy Bridge cpu.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103099 $34.99
COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 EVO RR-212E-20PK-R2 Continuous Direct Contact 120mm Sleeve CPU Cooler Compatible with latest Intel 2011/1366/1155 and AMD FM1/AM3+

This GTX 670 down below comes with excellent non reference cooling which makes for great over clocking.

http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=AS-670DC2G $424.99 Free Shipping
ASUS NVIDIA GeForce GTX 670 2GB DDR5 2DVI/HDMI/DisplayPort PCI-Express Video Card - GTX670-DC2-2GD5

http://www.google.com/#hl=en&output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q=ASUS+gtx+670+review&oq=ASUS+gtx+670+review&aq=f&aqi=g1g-b1&aql=1&gs_l=hp.3..0j0i8.1642.8395.1.8762.15.15.0.0.0.0.748.9035.5-9j4.13.0.cish.1.0.0.yBebae-TlW8&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=281f5fbf74ffa19b&biw=1440&bih=775 <----- reviews of that card w/benchmarks

SSD's go down in price just about every week so by the time you plan on purchasing there should be at least a few 240GB SSD's in the sub $200 range. This Sanddisk down below uses Toggle Nand controller.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006EKJ8UI/ref=pd_lpo_k2_dp_sr_1?pf_rd_p=486539851&pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe-1&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_i=B005N6XBKW&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=03HDWDEXHPDZCBYATWEC $223.00 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
SanDisk Extreme SSD 240GB SATA 6.0 Gb-s 2.5-Inch Solid State Drive- SDSSDX-240G-G25
 

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Why does everyone suggest overkilling graphics card for a 1080p setup = ="
It's not like every game released afterward would be Witcher2 standard... If you definitely going for SLi, just wait for the GTX660... and when it does release, the 7850 should have at least a more than decent price drop off...
However, I do agree on not needed 1000w power supply. Some higher end PSU provides "single rail" power delivery and it means how it reads.
I have 3 GTX275, i7-940 with a water cooling system and it doesn't even break a sweat on my 1200W PSU...
With your setup, I would say ~800W is the sweet spot., since you are not going down the water cooling route, overclocking is "fairly" limited.

P.S. the maximum power draw is 195w on the 680... even with SLi and moderate overclocking, it really shouldn't draw more than 600W...
My friend's PC is running a single GTX670 with an i7-3770K@4.5GHz and it draws about 350W from the wall under gaming load...
 
^how the hell 670 is *overkill*?
i agree it maxes out almost every game without any problem and that's the good thing about it.the main reason i suggest 670 is than it's a reasonably priced card with-
enough power to max out any game at 1080p(even higher)
runs cooler,less noise and overclocks like a beast.
less power consumption and beats a stock 680 with a little tweaking.
bottom line-
670 is the sweat spot for a high end graphics setup.
 
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For a high end, MULTI monitor setup, or even a 3D setup, or a 2560p resolution, certainly... But the 670 and 680 isn't really for 1080p...
I suggested 660 or 7850 and he also says he might going for "SLi" (680s), and you think 2x 660 is not even enough for a 1080p setup?
 
single powrful card>two weaker cards.
reasons-
more power consumption
driver bugs
more heat
more noise
no upgrade path(3 or 4-way SLi/CF sucks,you need watercooling and the scaling is not worth the extra cost of third graphic card)
a lot of games don't support SLi/CF.

 

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Exactly why I wrote "If you definitely going for SLi, just wait for the GTX660... "
If he is going to care for consumption, I don't think someone would go GTX680 SLi... Driver bugs? Seriously? The universal drivers are full of bugs anyways... on both camp too. More heat, yup, but would he care if he might go for SLi GTX680?
I seriously doubt your thinking route...
and there isn't even a 4 way SLi function for the 670... at least for the reference cards.
A lot of games don't support SLi/CF? If someone is willing to wait for 1 month or so after release, he would be able to have the support he wants... When did PC games ever get nice supports anyways? Look at the recent releases... Skyrim, class piece of *** with AMD supports, even some single cards have trouble too. Looking at Crysis 2, GTX580 single card has problems too.
 

first of all,mind your language.you are pi$$ed off cause you can't prove your point.any way,FYI-
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/forum2.php?config=tomshardwareus.inc&cat=33&post=355067&page=1&p=1&sondage=0&owntopic=1&trash=0&trash_post=0&print=0&numreponse=0&quote_only=0&new=0&nojs=0
just think about back when you got your 275! there were other cheaper options available(4850 CF for example)but why did you chose a more powerful card?
let me tell you why-
275>4850.
2x 275>2x 4850.
if you have any problems understanding this simple thing then look here-
a single more powerful card means better than a less powerful card.when you go with SLi,do you want to add another powerful card with your current(assuming if you use some of your brain and go with the more powerful card that is 670 in this case)or you want to buy two cheaper cards(7850s) that can barely beat your current card?

 

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Not pissed. Getting "pissed" about people that I won't even meet.
Reason about purchasing 3xGTX275? because the bundle I "got" it cheaper that way when I upgrade from some older card.
With the next gen console being this bad, HD6670? I would say most pc games are still going to be console ports... and you need 2x 670 for 1080p console ports? XD.
For 1080p, it's simply not needed to 670(SLi)... and 7850 CF is "barely beat"ing 670? em... Seriously? I would love some reference on that...
 
don't be douche sucka,beating isn't all about how many fps you get,it means much more.i am not gonna explain again to you,take a look at expert reviews-
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/GeForce_GTX_670_Direct_Cu_II/33.html
a solid 10
7850-
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/HD_7850_Power_Edition/33.html
8.8
this grading is based not only on fps numbers,it includes complete calculation of how much bang for buck a card gives.
there was a time when 5870 were out people used to say-
"do we need 5870 CF??? heck no"
but now,5870 can't keep up well with all games.
this was my last reply to you and you are a noob for sure.
 

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Whoa guys, this has gotten a little heated. I guess I should have also been a bit more clear on things...

First and most important... I AM A BUILDER! I know 95% of all the stuff here guys, this is more of a reality check than anything. So please, don't just throw a roughly equivalent set of parts at me. Explain to me WHY it is you would choose your part over the one I had, because a lot of times it just seems to be brand preference. I do appreciate you guys taking the time to make those lists, but it's not as helpful as laying out your reasoning WHY that part should take precedence to what I had picked out. If you're going to take the time to reply PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE make your case for the part change, I don't want to cycle past all these parts playing the comparison game trying to figure out why you think its better!

Second, I am NOT going for an SLI settup right away. I just wanted to have that option down the line. Also, the reason I had chosen a 1k PSU is the Amperage on the 12 Volt line for a GTX 680 is 38 Amps, so for two you would need at least 76 amps. This is according EVGA's specs...
http://www.evga.com/products/moreInfo.asp?pn=02G-P4-2680-KR&family=GeForce%20600%20Series%20Family&sw=
I have heard over and over and over again how amperage down the 12V line is more important than total wattage. Like I said though, I think I'll settle for the GTX 670 along with a PSU with room to SLI in the future. Everyone seems to be thinking that will be good enough for my 1080p monitor.

Also, no one has addressed my questions about storage, both for the SSD and HDD...

Lastly, both the ASRock Z77 Extreme6 and the MSI Z77A-GD65 won a Tom's Hardware award, so why is everyone recommending the ASRock board over the MSI one? Im not saying that there's anything wrong with that, I'm just very curious as why its so one sided, I feel like I'm missing something.

And I have to say the best thing about this thread so far was the bringing to my attention of this GTX 670!
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/GeForce_GTX_670_Direct_Cu_II/33.html
This thing looks like a freaken great buy, especially at that price. Thanks you all who recommended it!!!
 

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And here is what I have updated with your guy's input...

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/9WDr
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/9WDr/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/9WDr/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($84.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: MSI Z77A-GD65 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($179.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($57.99 @ Newegg)
Hard Drive: Samsung 830 Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($139.00 @ B&H)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card ($419.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master HAF XM (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($125.98 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Silverstone 850W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($130.98 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Asus BC-12B1ST/BLK/B/AS Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer ($52.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1381.90
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-06-11 20:29 EDT-0400)

Forgot to thank Why_Me for that case recommendation, takes the cake versus all the others I've seen!

Remember guys, I may not have turned down a recommendation because it wouldn't have been best, but it may be because I overlooked it. I don't have the time to compare every piece you suggest against my build!!! Please write out an explanation of WHY I should switch it out. Some of you did, a lot of you didn't!

Thanks again for all the help though guys!
 
As far as my recommendations go I just recommended the Asrock motherboard because I have had very good experience with their mobs MSI - i as well as had many friends and two family members get bad motherboards from them. As far as my 3TB hard drive recommendation goes I try taking into account your family has a collection of literally hundreds of DVD's and I just wasn't sure what would be enough for storing all that so I figured 3TB to play it safe as for my SSD recommendation "its better bang for buck IMO," and would save you some money over your pick the PSU I recommended is made by sea sonic and is more than enough to run SLI 670 the case I recommended is "5 star," rated and has + Great thermal performance + Expandability + Plenty of options for cable management + Good value for money choice Cons -Styling may not suit everyone's preference not that the case you picked is bad I know nothing about it so I can't justify one case is better than the other the NHD-14 I recommended because I personally have one on my secondary rig and it is amazing it cools even on a very high overclock better than just about any other CPU heat sink as far as closed loop go price vs performance it's much better than all those prepackaged water cooling solutions anyway, I think that about sums it up
 
Looking good! ;) I am still very worried about that motherboard even if it tied in Toms tests i just don't trust it :( but it's your build and so do as you please of course.
 


looks good but i would suggest the following change(s)-
1-i am not a big fan of MSi for motherboards,better stick with Asus,Gigabyte or Asrock.
for $180~(+/- 10),i would suggest-
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128545
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131820
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157295
all of them are good but i am partial to Asus.so i would suggest that Asus board.
you don't need 850w but for $130,it's a good deal.
other things are good and enjoy ;)