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June 11, 2012 11:12:11 AM

Approximate Purchase Date: This Month

Budget Range: $1000 - $1500 (AU)

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, Browsing Internet, Music, Movies

Parts Not Required: HDD ( Have got a WD 1TB caviar black)

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Anywhere that ships to Australia.

Country: Australia

Parts Preferences: Full tower case, Intel i5 2500k CPU

Overclocking: Maybe

SLI or Crossfire: No

Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080 preferably.

Case: CoolerMaster HAF 912 Advanced
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_i...

CPU: Intel Core i5 2500k
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_i...

Motherboard: ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3 LGA 1155
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... (Can't buy from Newegg)

Graphics Card: ASUS GeForce GTX 560Ti DirectCU II TOP 1GB
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_i...

RAM: Corsair Vengeance 8GB DDR3
www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&pro...

Power Supply: Corsair HX-650 (650W)
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_i...

CPU Cooler: Corsair Hydro Series H60 CPU Cooler
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_i...

SSD: Corsair Force Series 3 120GB SSD
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_i...

Monitor: BenQ 24 inch LED
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_i...

Keyboard/Mouse/Wireless Adapter/DVDRW: Cost $150

Total: $1526


Okay, so I am looking to build a decent Gaming PC that can run most games on High settings and will last me a few years. I need everything except a Hard drive for it as it is the first computer (of my own) that I will own. I've decided to go with the old Intel i5 2500k and most likely a 560 Ti graphics card but I'm not too sure on the motherboard. I'm not interested in two graphics cards I would much prefer just the one. My budget is about $1500AUD for the lot.

I would love some advice on which graphics card and motherboard would be best suitable for the i5 2500k CPU within my price bracket.

And with what I have so I want to check that everything is compatible to the best of everyone's knowledge.

Also if there is somewhere I am spending unnecessarily that could be spent on an improvement elsewhere I would greatly appreciate you letting me know.

Thanks!!

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June 11, 2012 11:17:38 AM

Looks like a good build. A couple suggestions though.

-I would suggest going with the new IB i5 with an Asrock Extreme 4 z77 combo. But if your set on the SB, then the z68 is fine.

-With your budget you can afford to put in a GTX 670, which is one of the best cards out their for the price. Will be able to run any game out right now on the highest settings.

-You can save some money on a CPU cooler, look at the 212 EVO it's $34 and can OC up to 4.5Ghz.

-You want to make sure you get low profile RAM so your heat sink will fit in correctly.

-For the SSd I would suggest Mushkin or Crucial M4, both are reliable and low priced.
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June 11, 2012 11:39:06 AM

Case is fine, the HAF series in general is.

CPU: any reason for the old tech? Your better off with the newer Ivy Bridge equivalent, the i5-3570k
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_i...

Motherboard is good, though if you upgrade the processor you will want a Z77 motherboard to go with it. Also lets you use the USB3 on the case.
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_i...
TIP: Newegg dont ship to Australia, and there prices are very different to Aus prices.

GPU: the 560Ti isn't that great, I'd suggest something from the HD78XX series at this price range.
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_i...

The RAM is a good pick, though look around some more. The equivalent G.Skill kit is $10 cheaper at uMart.
http://www.umart.com.au/pro/products_listnew.phtml?id=1...

Power supply is fine, though there are cheaper alternatives of good repute. This Silverstone is a good one.
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_i...

CPU Cooler: Why water cooling? Too much money is being sunk here, especially since you are unsure whether your going to overclock or not, this money can be spent in better places. The go-to budget air cooler is the Coolermaster Hyper 212 EVO.
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_i...

SSD: I'l admit, I dont know much about the Corsair Force series. All I can say is that i'd recommend a Crucial M4 or OCZ Vertex 4. You may have to go down to a ~60GB model because 120GB will strain you at this budget (and if you take my suggestions)

The monitor looks to be a good choice.

For cheaper prices, look around. The three places I got the components for my personal rig were MSY, PC Case Gear and uMart. So look for all your parts among them. Or if your lazy, use this search engine which will find the cheapest online price in your state.
http://www.staticice.com.au/

Have fun with the build.
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June 11, 2012 2:21:29 PM

If you can get to an MSY store, you'll save a heap on shipping from PCCaseGear or other, which opens up your budget a bit more. All these prices are taken from MSY's pdf pricelist (so sorry no links :(  ) but they are cheap. I just call my local stores for stock availability and do a bit a a drive round to hunt and gather :) 

http://msy.com.au/

CPU - Agree with above posters, go current gen processors on z77 platform
Intel Core i5 3570K - $241

CPU Cooler - For overclocking your CPU, particularly with IB processor temps spiking up quickly as you work up the frequency beyond 4.0GHz, an aftermarket CPU cooler is a great investment to help keep temps under control.
CoolerMaster Hyper 212 EVO - $39

Case - Lots of good choices from MSY these days... on your budget I'd choose
CoolerMaster Storm Enforcer $95

Mobo - Depends on what features your looking for. This one is a great all round gaming board. Certainly encourage you to jump on their website and check that feature list to make sure it's got everything your looking for.
ASRock Z77 Extreme4 Motherboard - $154

GPU - Don't have to look very far for praise of this GPU. More or less max out every game on ultra uber details at 1080p with 60+fps. Leaves the gtx 560 ti (which is still a nice card) way behind.
Gigabyte GTX 670 2GB - $515

RAM - MSY stock G.skill which is good, and this model is the most recent model.
1600 Gskill Ares 8GB Kit $58


PSU - No plans on SLI?, the 650W will be ample for your build
Corsair TX 650 - $112

HDD - you have a nice one already :) 

SSD - It might just be me, but I struggle with less than 120GB, I do like a lot of games on there though...
SanDisk Extreme Solid State Drive 120GB $129.00

Optical - Whatever
Samsung - $19

Screen
24” 2ms Asus VE248H = $195

$1558

When you factor in shipping from PCCaseGear will cost $70-$150 depending where you live in Aus, but I haven't included some of those other preipherals keyboad etc...The above build will have you infront.
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June 11, 2012 2:29:30 PM

Why would he get a Silverstone PSU when he already picked out a good Corsair one.

Antec, XFX, Seasonic, Corsair, Enermax. There are so many good PSUs in those brands, there is no reason to even get another brand.
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June 12, 2012 12:31:34 PM

Thanks for replying guys, I appreciate it.

After reading what's been said, I have changed the build significantly.

Firstly, I will be getting everything from pccasegear.com because I can't buy from MSY as I live in Tasmania, and of course, they didn't open a shop here. And I can get everything shipped quite cheaply in bulk.

After much review, this is the revamped build:

Intel Core i5 3570k ($245 @ pccasegear)

- Agree 100% with you all, don't know what I was thinking here.

ASRock Z77 PRO4-M Motherboard ($105 @ pccasegear)

- Either this or the Extreme4 ($155 at pccasegear) not sure whether it is neccessary.

Sapphire Radeon HD7850 2GB OC ($275 @ pccasegear)

- With the amount of money I have available, which is likely to be $1500 max, I decided to go with the 7850 as opposed to the GTX 670. Depending on the actual amount of money I have at the time of purchase I might go for the 7870 which is like $100 more.

Corsair Vengeance CML8GX3M2A1600C9 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 ($69 @ pccasegear)

- Sticking with this, I trust it. It's also low profile so the heatsink will fit properly.

Corsair TX-650 V2 Power Supply ($115 @ pccasegear)

- Ill stick with a corsair PSU, this one looks good to me.

CoolerMaster Hyper 212 EVO CPU Cooler ($39 @ pccasegear)

- Ill take you're advice again on this one. It seems extremely popular and very cheap, atleast in comparison to the one I was going to get.

Crucial M4 SSD 64GB ($99 @ pccasegear)

- Still unsure about this one. Either this or the Sandisk 120GB, don't know if I trust it though.

CoolerMaster HAF 912 Advanced ($105 @ pccasegear)

- This is good, sticking with it.

Peripherals eg. Monitor, Keyboard, Mouse, Dvd Drive. ($314 @ pccasegear)

- Ill be getting a 24" monitor, gaming keyboard and mouse and a standard Pioneer DVDRW

A few questions:

1. Would it be worth getting the Z77 Extreme4 motherboard for an extra $50?

2. Is it worth going for the HD 7870 for an extra $100?

3. Any closure on which SSD I should get?

4. Will everything fit in the case?

5. Will everything be compatible?


Again, thanks so much for the help I really appreciate it, I just want to know that everything is okay before I spend so much $$.
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June 12, 2012 12:47:31 PM

1. If you want to keep the option of SLI/Crossfire open, then get it.

2. I would say yes, but if its straining the budget its not essential. Get the non overclocked edition as its cheaper, and its physically the same as the OC version. Sapphire overclocks tend to be very conservative, I think its only a 50mhz bump, not worth the extra $20

3. General advice is capacity first, if the Crucal 64GB and the Sandisk 120GB cost the same, get the Sandisk. It'l be slower than the Crucial M4, but the slowest SSD is faster than a HDD.

4. HAF cases are known for their size, I doubt there will be any issues.

5. As far as I can tell yes. If you do decide to leave the option of Crossfire/SLI open, then I would suggest a 750W PSU so you don't have to buy another if/when you do.
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June 12, 2012 1:03:39 PM

1) If you want to OC your CPU and have a possible SLI in the future go with the Extreme4.

2)I would upgrade to a GTX 670 for an extra $125. It blows both those out of the water, will max any game out right now on the highest settings and will for a while.

3) I would look at Mushkin 120Gb, can get it for under $100 right now. And it's quick and reliable.

4) The case is plenty big.

5) The build looks great. You just need to decide if you want to leave room to SLI in the future. If so then upgrade your PSU to 750W and get the extreme4 MOBO. If not then stick with what you have. If I were you and didn't want to spend much more, I would keep the cheaper MOBO, the 650W PSU, and spend the saved money on a GTX 670.
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June 12, 2012 1:18:42 PM

hopz said:
1) If you want to OC your CPU and have a possible SLI in the future go with the Extreme4.

2)I would upgrade to a GTX 670 for an extra $125. It blows both those out of the water, will max any game out right now on the highest settings and will for a while.

3) I would look at Mushkin 120Gb, can get it for under $100 right now. And it's quick and reliable.

4) The case is plenty big.

5) The build looks great. You just need to decide if you want to leave room to SLI in the future. If so then upgrade your PSU to 750W and get the extreme4 MOBO. If not then stick with what you have. If I were you and didn't want to spend much more, I would keep the cheaper MOBO, the 650W PSU, and spend the saved money on a GTX 670.


Just a tip

Australian prices are pretty high, and a GTX670 is around $500. The OP is trying to decide between a $250 and a $350 GPU with the 7870 option straining the budget already. I faced this exact same situation with my personal build, its just too difficult to squeeze a $500 graphics card into a build of this budget. Hell, to prove how high the prices are, there is more than $100 difference between Newegg and PC Case Gear on the same card.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_i...

And Mushkin don't exist in Aus, I'v seen one 6GB kit of RAM from them and that its. And a Crucial M4 64GB will set you back $99, so you wont find any 120GB SSD for less than $130 at minimum (talking vertex 3's and Sandisk's here, so not even top of the line drives)

Not a personal attack or anything, just be aware that American prices and availability's are very different to what we got down here.
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June 12, 2012 1:31:13 PM

Okay cool, so I guess I have to decide whether to spend extra money to be safe and leave the option of Crossfire/SLI.

As Manofchalk just said, the GTX 670 is significantly more expensive for me to get and as much as I would love to get it I just can't. It would be a third of my budget. So ill just have to decide whether to get the 7850 or the 7870.

About the SSD; storage won't be a problem, I have at least 2GB outside the SSD. What I really want out of it is for the OS to boot as fast as possible and for the game or program I am using at the time to load fast. So I'm thinking that I should go for the faster-less capacity drive.

Thanks again!

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June 12, 2012 2:07:21 PM

The new list looks good. PCCaseGear have always been very quick with orders and helpful with any questions.

1. The ASRock Z77 PRO4-M is a basic mobo... more limited overclocking potential. Single GPU setup. More basic features. Just so long as you know what you're getting VS the z77 extreme4
2. The 7870 isn't a huge leap past the 7850. It's a bigger performance jump from the 7870 to 7950. Generally speaking you'll be somewhere between high and ultra details on most games at 1080p with 60+fps with the 7850.
3. It's your $ mate :)  If you are only thinking of the OS going on there fine, but there are quite a few games that benefit from SSD performance BF3, Diablo 3, anything with level loading really.
4. If you like the aesthetics/style/looks of HAF 912, its is a good size in my opinion, not too big, but deep (long?) enough for bigger gpus. Easy to build in, cools well, solid construction.
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Check the screen your order is 2ms.
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June 12, 2012 4:37:23 PM

Sg711 said:
Approximate Purchase Date: This Month

Budget Range: $1000 - $1500 (AU)

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, Browsing Internet, Music, Movies

Parts Not Required: HDD ( Have got a WD 1TB caviar black)

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Anywhere that ships to Australia.

Country: Australia

Parts Preferences: Full tower case, Intel i5 2500k CPU

Overclocking: Maybe

SLI or Crossfire: No

Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080 preferably.

Also if there is somewhere I am spending unnecessarily that could be spent on an improvement elsewhere I would greatly appreciate you letting me know.

Thanks!!

With that said look to make these changes to that build up above...you want to make ever dollar count.

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_i... $119.00
ASRock Z77 PRO3 Motherboard

http://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/Z77%20Pro3/ <----- another look at that board along with a link to the latest bios

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_i... $79.00
Antec High Current Gamer 520W Power Supply HCG-520

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_i... $129.00
SanDisk Extreme Solid State Drive 120GB

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_i... $65.00
G.Skill Ares F3-1600C9D-8GAO 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_i... $39.00
CoolerMaster Hyper 212 EVO CPU Cooler

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_i... $245.00
Intel Core i5 3570K

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_i... $275.00
Sapphire Radeon HD7850 2GB OC

or....

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_i... $279.00
Gigabyte Radeon HD7850 2GB OC
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June 13, 2012 8:14:44 AM

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