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October 10, 2012 5:41:41 PM

Hello,
I need to upgrade our old,old, old computer. What are "good" processors for an extreme budget build (max $400) We are just using the comp for internet, daughter's school work, and old games (Diablo 2, warcraft 3, etc..) I have no preference for AMD or Intel. Thanks in advance
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October 10, 2012 5:44:31 PM

You will need a new motherboard, RAM, and a CPU. Are you going to recycle the rest from the old PC? Probably need a PSU as well. What parts are the $400 going to buy?
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October 10, 2012 5:46:36 PM

I will probably need everything new besides a monitor
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October 10, 2012 6:01:33 PM

Hi :) 

Sorry to burst your bubble but extreme and $400 dont go together..... extreme and $3000 maybe...

All you will get for $400 is a very basic pc.....and dont forget the cost of Windows 7...

All the best Brett :) 
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October 10, 2012 6:08:50 PM

I would consider AMD Trinity APUs for that price range. It has decent graphics, while not quite the same as having a discrete graphics card, the onboard graphics of the chip is better than anything Intel has. Although the tradeoff, is the Intel has better CPUs in terms of raw power. But you really don't need a strong processor for what you're looking to do.

This 130
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

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That 110
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

The performance difference between the two is about on par with the price difference.

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Motherboard- 60
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Power- 25 with mail in rebate
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Case- 30 w/ rebate
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAM- 37 with promo code
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Hard Drive- 70
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Optical drive- ~20... Pick a brand of DVD R/W, hard to go wrong here.




Some of these things have rebates, prices may change depending on time of purchase. And this is about as bottom of the barrel as I'd go. I'm sure someone could do one cheaper, but this is a competent system with better longevity.

You also need an operating system, thats going to add about 100 to the bill. I would suggest Windows 7. Windows 8 is very different, and very awkward to use for those used to traditional Windows interfaces.


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And pre-emptively, not really for you, but for immature people we occasionally get in these threads, this is my anti-fanboy disclaimer:

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October 10, 2012 6:52:57 PM

LOL! Love it
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October 10, 2012 6:54:12 PM

Brett928S2 said:
Hi :) 

Sorry to burst your bubble but extreme and $400 dont go together..... extreme and $3000 maybe...

All you will get for $400 is a very basic pc.....and dont forget the cost of Windows 7...

All the best Brett :) 


apparently you misunderstood my use of extreme; extreme as is in extremely budget minded, I know I will not get "extreme" performance
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October 10, 2012 7:09:35 PM

AMD A10 is your niche.
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October 10, 2012 7:36:14 PM

For that amount of money your best bet is to buy a cheap prebuilt computer. Something like this Cheap Desktop will give you an overall best bang for your buck. With budgets as low as yours, you really save more money buy buying something like this. If you price out all these parts:

Windows 7 - $99.99
CPU - ~$94.99

Here is half your budget already

HDD - $79.99
Motherboard - ~$49.99

Budget is comming really close and we only got 4 parts here. So far ~$324.96 without shipping

RAM - lets say $20
GPU - lets say $49.99
PSU - lets be gracious and say $25

Budget has now been blown, and you still need to pay for shipping, PSU, DVD Drive, Case. As much as I hate suggesting pre-made computers, I honestly believe this would be best for you. This computer may not be the best for you, I am just using it as an example because it was close to your budget. Shop around some, stick with the AMD based computers because they tend to be cheaper.
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October 10, 2012 8:59:12 PM

Brett928S2 said:
Hi :) 

Sorry to burst your bubble but extreme and $400 dont go together..... extreme and $3000 maybe...

All you will get for $400 is a very basic pc.....and dont forget the cost of Windows 7...

All the best Brett :) 


he will still get better than buying from a shop if he goes down the amd route, black edition phenom ii x4
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October 10, 2012 9:03:34 PM

dont buy brand new parts, youl get more than you think for your cash
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October 10, 2012 9:56:29 PM

Buying used parts off Ebay is a crapshoot. While you might get some good deals there, its a gamble and you always have to remember the basic concept "you get what you pay for".

That power supply in particular has all the hallmarks of a cheap/trashy PSU. And cheaping out on the power is probably the single worst place to go cheap at.
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October 10, 2012 11:07:22 PM

Here goes... This doesn't include an OS. The total is $355.93 with free shipping and a $5 Newegg gift card.

Basically you get a basic quad core PC with 4 Gb of Ram, 1 Tb of Hard drive storage, and a quality power supply. The processor has a built in GPU that is an HD 7660D (current generation graphics)
Here is a review of the graphics
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/trinity-gaming-perf...
Here is a review of the processor
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/a10-5800k-a8-5600k-...

AMD A10-5800K Trinity 3.8GHz - $129.99
ASRock FM2A55M-DGS FM2 AMD Micro ATX AMD Motherboard - $54.99
Team Xtreem Dark Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 - $22.99
Antec VP-450 450W ATX 12V v2.3 Power Supply - $39.99
SAMSUNG DVD Burner SATA Model SH-224BB - $17.99
DIYPC DIY-5823BK Black Mid Tower Computer Case - $19.99 + free shipping
Hitachi GST Deskstar 7K1000.C 0F10383 1TB 7200 RPM - $69.99

You can pick up an upgrade pre-order version of Windows 8 Pro for $39.99 from Microsoft.
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October 11, 2012 8:06:41 AM

Yeah, I think the A10 is by far the best choice for this budget.
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October 11, 2012 10:55:48 AM

nekulturny said:
Buying used parts off Ebay is a crapshoot. While you might get some good deals there, its a gamble and you always have to remember the basic concept "you get what you pay for".

That power supply in particular has all the hallmarks of a cheap/trashy PSU. And cheaping out on the power is probably the single worst place to go cheap at.


those parts i listed arent second hand, there brand new with warranty.
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October 11, 2012 11:01:08 AM

just short of 400 dollars, est Value 777 T-BIRD Mid Tower ATX/Micro ATX USB 2.0 Gaming PC Case Chassis Red, AMD Bulldozer FX-4100 3.6Ghz+ASRock Motherboard+4GB DDR3 Bundle,NEW QUIET ACE BLACK EDITION 750W ATX PSU - MOLEX -SATA - PCI-E - PFC & 120mm FAN,LiteOn iHAS124 DVD±RW Internal Optical Drive DL DVD RAM 24x SATA Black,250GB 3.5" SATA Harddrive - DESKTOP HDD 250 GB Hard drive disk,Best Value VTX3D ATI Radeon 5450 HD 1GB PCI-Exp HDMI Graphics Card Low Profile.
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October 11, 2012 11:05:00 AM

darren0000 said:
those parts i listed arent second hand, there brand new with warranty.


The makers of the PSU you linked need to be slowly killed with fire, warranty isn't worth the paper its on it won't replace the fried parts it takes with it it'll just replace the PSU with another sh!t one.

ACE, winpower, CIT, EZcool, Powercool, OCUK, arianet ..... they rename the crap so much as nobody wants to accept responsibility for it I guess..... they are all doorstop grade you would have better reliability and get get closer to advertised wattages using 300 hamsters in a wheel. With PSU's always stick with OCZ, Seasonic, XFX, Corsair or Antec.
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October 11, 2012 11:10:53 AM

doesnt that psu have a cut off.
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October 11, 2012 11:20:09 AM

i know what your saying it wont produce 750watts maybe 600watt, but i thought it will cut off before frying the parts?
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October 11, 2012 11:26:17 AM

also what psu's are in normal pcs u buy from shops? just crap ones aswell, also how come most other pcs are fine? could it be that people overclock using these psu's, normal use will not be a problem.
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October 11, 2012 11:42:01 AM

The PSU's used by mainstream makers may not be branded but they will deliver the (low) wattages they claim, DELL will not make money if it sells companies truckloads of PC's that need a 300W PSU and go pop as the PSU used was only capable of 200W.

These no names/multiple names sold as cheap PSU's to enthusiasts are a totaly different kettle of fish, they are simply cr@p there's no other way to label them. They often lie about wattage and amperage provided, they often lie about saftey features in the PSU. The reality is you may think ohhh £15 cheap PSU great but it's true market value if labeled honestly would be closer to £1.50. You can get decent make 80 plus rated PSU's for 30-35 quid rated at 450W they likely deliver more power than the scabby ACE/CIT/Whatever 750W
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October 11, 2012 4:33:06 PM

^I'm not sure that's better overall than the A10.
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October 11, 2012 4:42:55 PM

^+1
A10 system would give more threads and more powerful threads plus a better graphics solution.
As far as storage... you could go with an SSD. That would make your boot times faster but you wouldn't be able to install any games or other software on a 60 Gb SSD. I'd recommend no smaller than a 120 Gb SSD if it is the only drive.
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October 11, 2012 4:53:48 PM

FinneousPJ said:
^I'm not sure that's better overall than the A10.

An Intel Celeron with a 6670? Definitely not. Especially considering, with the A10 system, you can add a lower end graphics card later (I'm not sure which ones are compatible with A10 off the top of my head) which will crossfire (run in tandem) with the A10 if you decide the onboard graphics aren't cutting it alone. You can't do that with the Celeron.
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October 11, 2012 4:57:36 PM

I believe it'll crossfire with the 6670 and 6570.
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October 11, 2012 10:53:06 PM

You don't have to get a10 for older games, Diablo 2 runs fine on an open gl wrapper.

You can budget cut and get A8 or A6. If you need to save money, that is $20-$40 dollars right there.

For cpu and gpu Trinity Apu series is your best bet.
If you want the gpu to work better at least 1600 ram is good. (Trinity works better with faster ram)

btw 6670 is compatible for dual graphics with A-10 series.
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October 12, 2012 2:03:32 AM

NoUserBar said:
You don't have to get a10 for older games, Diablo 2 runs fine on an open gl wrapper.

You can budget cut and get A8 or A6. If you need to save money, that is $20-$40 dollars right there.

For cpu and gpu Trinity Apu series is your best bet.
If you want the gpu to work better at least 1600 ram is good. (Trinity works better with faster ram)

btw 6670 is compatible for dual graphics with A-10 series.

Yea, heck, I ran Diablo 2 on my old Pentium 4 years ago. It'll do it. I'm talking Northwood Pentium 4 during Intel's sucking days.
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October 12, 2012 8:19:55 PM

verdenshersker said:
http://pcpartpicker.com/parts/partlist/

This is my idea for that computer.
New standard with lots of upgrade opportunities in the long run


http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-power-supply-cmpsu...
far better power supply, not only that, cheaper!
and grab a asrock H77 MVP 4 motherboard for uh $68.99 i think. may raise the price a few dollars, but you always cant go for the cheapest manufactures out there, you gotta pay for what you get!
hope this helps, i know theres alot of people out there replying to your thread, but the more information you have, the better, best of luck to you and your computer build hope it goes all well and smooth!
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