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June 11, 2012 11:54:34 AM


Hello! :hello: 

I need some help with my fist build. I am a bit worried about doing it so I came here for help. I hope you can help me, I've done some work myself (spent a few weeks) but I am not 100% confident if it will be fine. I hope you will be kind enough to help me out a bit, mostly I need you to have a look and tell me if everything is fine and if you have anything else i could add.

I'll start off with some information, then I'll mention what I have and lastly
I will put up some questions that I am unsure about.

Approximate Purchase Date: In a week (the sooner the better).

Budget Range: up to about €1400 (unless you can make it cheaper)

System Usage from Most to Least Important: playing games, and everyday things such as using the internet or writing something in wordpad + maybe programming in the future. :D 

Parts Not Required:
  • Monitor, i have Dell Ultrasharp U2312HM 23 inch IPS LED Monitor
  • speakers
  • headset

    Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Amazon.Co.Uk, Scan.Co.Uk - - - I live in Ireland, Co.Cork, but there are nearly no shops that sell computer parts so i need to order online, and the shops i know of are these 2, if you know any other shops i could look into, please let me know. :) 

    Parts Preferences: I've no really any preferences with the companies but I'd like an intel processor and a GeForce graphics card. The companies after that don't really make a difference to me aslong as they have good reputation.

    Overclocking: Maybe in the future

    SLI or Crossfire: Most likely no, but you can never be sure of that.

    Monitor Resolution:
    Dell Ultrasharp U2312HM 23 inch IPS LED Monitor 1920 x 1080

    Additional Comments:
  • I would like a quiet enough computer (doesn't have to be silent)
  • I'd like everything staying at low temperatures
  • I'd like the computer to last a good few years
  • I don't live in a very hot country so the temperatures should stay low enough (if i am wrong on this then please correct me)


    ~~~~~~~~~~ Parts I have Picked myself~~~~~~~~~~


    Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-V PRO

    RAM: Corsair CML8GX3M2A1600C9B LP Vengeance Memory 8GB (4GB X 2) 1600MHz CL9 DDR3

    HDD: Western Digital Caviar Black 1 TB 7200 RPM

    Case: Antec Nine Hundred Two V3

    Processor: Intel 3rd Generation Core i5-3570K CPU

    Processor cooler: Coolermaster Hyper 212 EVO

    Graphics Card: Asus 2GB GeForce GTX 670 DirectCU II

    PSU: Corsair AX 650W Professional 80 Plus Gold Modular Power Supply

    Keyboard: Razer Blackwidow

    Mouse: Razer Deathadder Re-Spawn 3500DPI

    Optical Drive: Need suggestion!


    Things I am unsure about:
  • Is the motherboard worth getting? Or are there better ones for similar price or lower?
  • Is the HDD worth getting, or should i get like 2TB for the same price but the 2TB will be those eco-friendly.
  • Will everything fit in the case?
  • Is the graphics card i put up good? or should i go with maybe EVGA or a different company?
  • Will the PSU be enough for the build? I probably won't be adding much in the future, maybe extra storage but that's about all.
  • Will the parts stay at a safe temperature?
  • Are the thermal pastes the same?
  • what optical drive should i get? i won't use it too much, maybe installing the OS and a game once in a while... maybe also burn a CD
  • Do You Have Any Other Suggestions?!?

    I hope you can help me with that much (and I didn't bore you with all the writing). I am looking forward to your reply and ideas!

    Thanks In Advance! :) 
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    June 11, 2012 12:08:11 PM

    1: the gigabyte z77x-ud5h has more features for a cheaper price
    2: personally i prefer seagate 1tb with 64mb of cache drives. they perform slightly better. just pick the one that is cheaper. green drives wont pefrom that great
    3:might want to throw in a ssd such as crucial m4 128gb drive. it will speed up your computer by a lot
    4:the graphics card that u have is pretty good. just make sure to get the top edition as it is more overclocked and the chips are binned for even more overclock
    5:you probably dont need 80+ gold but that unit is very good.
    6:the thermal paste that comes with the hyper 212 evo is arctic cooling mx-4. it is very good thermal paste so no need to buy more
    7:any generic optical drive is good enough. some good ones come from lg, lite-on, samsung, or asus
    8: get something like a p280 from antec for the case. it has more space and is silence optimized. it still has good airflow
    June 11, 2012 12:12:05 PM

    You build looks extremely good! Just a couple quick things though.

    -Motherboard I would suggest the Asrock Extreme4 Z77, it's made for the new IB with the 3.0 USB, and OC ability. Also cheaper the ASUS

    -As for the HDD, it really depends on how much storage you need, if you have lots of videos/pictures/music I would go to 2TB, HDD storage is extremely cheap.

    -You picked the best GTX 670 in my opinion. Excellent cooling, extremely quiet and can OC if you want. No point really in getting the Top edition, it's the same exact card, they just took an extra 2 min to OC it, which you can do the same if you want in 5 minutes.

    -The PSU is plenty, if you want to SLI in the future I would go up to 750W.

    -You don't need to purchase thermal paste, some will come with the 212 EVO

    -I would suggest this for the optical drive, simple, cheap, and reliable
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

    -You want to make sure your RAM is low profile so your 212 EVO will fit properly

    -One final suggestion, you might want to look at adding in an SSD for you OS if you can fit it into your budget. Will drastically shorten you load times. I would look at Mushkin and Crucial M4.
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    June 11, 2012 12:14:39 PM

    yes get the extreme4 mobo. i didnt think that the asrock was cheaper anywhere else other than the states
    June 11, 2012 12:48:06 PM

    Thanks for replying!

    With the optical drive that Hopz posted, i can't find it on any of the websites i put up, there is a similar one, but it is £33 and it's not directly from amazon nor scan so i'd have to get a 3rd separate delivery which would probably cost an extra £10 for it to come to Ireland.

    WHY is the asrock extreme4 Z77 motherboard so much cheaper than the asus if they are similar performance?

    The Geforce 670 top costs an extra £25 more than the non-Top version, I heard that they are the same card except one is over clocked while the other is not. SO, is it worth the extra £25?

    I probably won't SLI the cards unless i will be able to get another 670 for like £100 in the future, but then i'd consider if it would not be worth getting a new build again since they would be kind of old by the time they reach the price.

    I won't need too much storage, i have the old computer that i could use and a portable 1TB... that adds upto like 3TB in the house.

    I'd love a SSD but i can't at the moment, maybe in a few months time I'd be able to get one.

    And the case P280, it's nearly the same price (if not more) than what i posted. Is it worth the price difference?


    Thanks for all the help so far, hoping to hear more from ye!
    :D 
    June 11, 2012 1:01:59 PM

    Any optical drive will really work. the ASUS I just posted is just one of the cheapest I can find that is good. Just make sure it has decent reviews and you should be alright.

    The asus board is more expensive because of the brand name, and it has some unnecessary bells and whistles that you would problem never use. I would go with the extreme4 or the gigabyte z77x-ud5h, whichever is cheaper.

    The only difference between the ASUS GTX 670 TOp, and the non-Top is the OC. But you can OC yourself in a couple minutes whenever you want. I ordered the normal ASUS one, and am waiting to OC it until it's needed in a year or two when more graphic intensive games come out. right now at stock settings it maxes all settings in every game. OC right now is just overkill anyways.

    And if you have that, then stick with the 1TB.

    I would defininetley suggest an SSD in the future too. If it were me, I would buy the SSD now, install your OS/Office and whatever else you need for right now. then get the HDD in a month for storage. That way you don't have to reinstall the OS.

    I would go with the P280, I'm not a big fan of the 900. But cases are pretty personal
    June 11, 2012 1:14:21 PM

    top editions is specially binned for even more oerclocking headroom and quality. that is why it has such a high overclock and slightly higher price. it has been known for the top edition to ramp up above 1.3 ghz in boost clocks
    June 11, 2012 1:50:20 PM

    Would this optical drive be good? I have no idea which to get so i pouuled out one for low price. :D 
    http://www.scan.co.uk/products/samsung-sh-s222al-bebe-2...

    I love the look of the case, just one question, does it cool well with all that quietening stuff around the outside of the case?

    ~I think i will stay with the non-top card to save money.

    Nearly forgot, the Asrock extreme4 Z77 motherboard is cheaper, i think it was about £20 - £30


    Once i get the next reply and i will have everything sorted out, i will post up the final parts.

    THANK YOU SO MUCH for the help you did so far!
    June 11, 2012 2:02:52 PM

    That optical drive should be fine, they are all pretty similar.

    Honestly those quiet cases do run pretty warm, the air intake in them is pretty poor. You need to add a couple extra fans to them to keep it decent. Which kinda defeats the purpose. I would suggest a case like the Corsair 500r, which has a fan controller, and if you turn them down it's basically silent.

    And thats good you found the Extreme4 cheaper.
    June 11, 2012 2:09:46 PM

    so i think i will go with corsair 500r case, i don't really mind if it is a bit noisy. and it will also be £20 cheaper! :D 
    June 11, 2012 2:11:52 PM

    It's a great case, awesome cable management, really good airflow, LED switch, fan controller, and it's a good size for a mid case.
    June 11, 2012 2:37:24 PM

    So if I went with this it would all be good?


    Motherboard: Asrock extreme4 Z77

    RAM: Corsair CML8GX3M2A1600C9B LP Vengeance Memory 8GB (4GB X 2) 1600MHz CL9 DDR3

    HDD: Western Digital Caviar Black 1 TB 7200 RPM

    Case: Corsair 500R

    Processor: Intel 3rd Generation Core i5-3570K CPU

    Processor cooler: Coolermaster Hyper 212 EVO

    Graphics Card: Asus 2GB GeForce GTX 670 DirectCU II

    PSU: Corsair AX 650W Professional 80 Plus Gold Modular Power Supply

    Keyboard: Razer Blackwidow

    Mouse: Razer Deathadder Re-Spawn 3500DPI

    Optical Drive: SATA Lightscribe 22x DVDRW with BlacK Bezel - OEM.


    One more thing,
    Does the case have USB 3.0 headers(or whatever they are called)?
    and will the temperatures stay low enough in the case?


    THANK YOU!
    June 11, 2012 2:43:33 PM

    Yep that build looks excellent. And the case does have 2 USB 3.0 headers on the front. And the case temperatures will stay low enough, it as great airflow.
    June 11, 2012 3:23:17 PM

    if the segate barracuda 1tb 64mb cache is the same or cheaper than the black drive, get it instead.
    June 11, 2012 3:46:48 PM

    they are nearly the same price. i am just looking over the build last time before ordering.
    June 11, 2012 3:56:21 PM

    well if yo are not changing the hard drive, it seems good
    June 11, 2012 4:14:10 PM

    thanks for the help. i should be ordering everything tomorrow since i need to throw cash onto the credit card and all and the banks are closed. also the scan.co.uk is expecting to have the coolermaster hyper 212 evo delivered today, so i'll wait until tomorrow to get everything in as least amount of deliveries possible.

    I'll leave the thread as it is until i order it, and if you have any last minute ideas let me know, but i think i should be fine with it! :D 


    Thanks. :D 
    June 11, 2012 4:34:55 PM

    Be sure to turn the fan speed down and target temp up a little in the bios or you're going to wonder why your new PC sounds like a jet engine :) 
    June 11, 2012 6:04:12 PM

    or you could get a noctua or a gentle typhoon fan
    June 11, 2012 7:33:18 PM

    What I was getting at is the mobo runs whatever fan you have at max RPM by default. I wouldn't want that regardless of the fan. The 212's stock fan at min rpm keeps an idle 3570K at under 30C so there's no real reason to run it above minimum (it automatically spins up as temps increase like any other mobo).
    June 11, 2012 7:55:38 PM

    fakemail15 said:
    Hello! :hello: 

    I need some help with my fist build. I am a bit worried about doing it so I came here for help. I hope you can help me, I've done some work myself (spent a few weeks) but I am not 100% confident if it will be fine. I hope you will be kind enough to help me out a bit, mostly I need you to have a look and tell me if everything is fine and if you have anything else i could add.

    I'll start off with some information, then I'll mention what I have and lastly
    I will put up some questions that I am unsure about.

    Approximate Purchase Date: In a week (the sooner the better).

    Budget Range: up to about €1400 (unless you can make it cheaper)

    System Usage from Most to Least Important: playing games, and everyday things such as using the internet or writing something in wordpad + maybe programming in the future. :D 

    Parts Not Required:
  • Monitor, i have Dell Ultrasharp U2312HM 23 inch IPS LED Monitor
  • speakers
  • headset

    Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Amazon.Co.Uk, Scan.Co.Uk - - - I live in Ireland, Co.Cork, but there are nearly no shops that sell computer parts so i need to order online, and the shops i know of are these 2, if you know any other shops i could look into, please let me know. :) 

    Parts Preferences: I've no really any preferences with the companies but I'd like an intel processor and a GeForce graphics card. The companies after that don't really make a difference to me aslong as they have good reputation.

    Overclocking: Maybe in the future

    SLI or Crossfire: Most likely no, but you can never be sure of that.

    Monitor Resolution:
    Dell Ultrasharp U2312HM 23 inch IPS LED Monitor 1920 x 1080

    Additional Comments:
  • I would like a quiet enough computer (doesn't have to be silent)
  • I'd like everything staying at low temperatures
  • I'd like the computer to last a good few years
  • I don't live in a very hot country so the temperatures should stay low enough (if i am wrong on this then please correct me)


    ~~~~~~~~~~ Parts I have Picked myself~~~~~~~~~~


    Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-V PRO

    RAM: Corsair CML8GX3M2A1600C9B LP Vengeance Memory 8GB (4GB X 2) 1600MHz CL9 DDR3

    HDD: Western Digital Caviar Black 1 TB 7200 RPM

    Case: Antec Nine Hundred Two V3

    Processor: Intel 3rd Generation Core i5-3570K CPU

    Processor cooler: Coolermaster Hyper 212 EVO

    Graphics Card: Asus 2GB GeForce GTX 670 DirectCU II

    PSU: Corsair AX 650W Professional 80 Plus Gold Modular Power Supply

    Keyboard: Razer Blackwidow

    Mouse: Razer Deathadder Re-Spawn 3500DPI

    Optical Drive: Need suggestion!


    Things I am unsure about:
  • Is the motherboard worth getting? Or are there better ones for similar price or lower?
  • Is the HDD worth getting, or should i get like 2TB for the same price but the 2TB will be those eco-friendly.
  • Will everything fit in the case?
  • Is the graphics card i put up good? or should i go with maybe EVGA or a different company?
  • Will the PSU be enough for the build? I probably won't be adding much in the future, maybe extra storage but that's about all.
  • Will the parts stay at a safe temperature?
  • Are the thermal pastes the same?
  • what optical drive should i get? i won't use it too much, maybe installing the OS and a game once in a while... maybe also burn a CD
  • Do You Have Any Other Suggestions?!?

    I hope you can help me with that much (and I didn't bore you with all the writing). I am looking forward to your reply and ideas!

    Thanks In Advance! :) 

  • Look for these changes. Also to answer your question about the thermal paste...that Cooler Master EVO you have up there comes with a small tube of TX-4 thermal compound which is about as good as it gets so no need to order more.

    Both of these boards run dual vid cards and they do it well. You can't go wrong with either board imo...that and they both o/c great.

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Asus-Motherboard-PCI-Express-Cr... £141.98 & this item Delivered FREE in the UK with Super Saver Delivery
    Asus P8Z77-V Motherboard (Socket 1155, 32GB DDR3 Support, ATX, PCI-Express 3.0, USB 3.0, Asus Wi-Fi Go Remote, SLI/CrossFireX Support, Dual Intelligent Processors 3)

    or...

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Z77-Extreme4-Motherboard-Suppor... £121.01
    AsRock Z77 Extreme4 Motherboard (Socket 1155, Intel Z77, Up to 32GB DDR3, ATX, 2 x SATA3 6.0 Gb/s, Supports NVIDIA SLI and AMD CrossFireX, Premium Gold Caps)

    This XFX psu down below is manufactured by Seasonic for XFX, it's modular, has a Silver efficiency rating and 750w gives you plenty of headroom if you ever do decided to add another one of those cards in SLI later on. 650w is cutting it close to the bone.

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Black-Edition-Power-Supply-blac... £93.18
    Xfx 750w Black Edition Power Supply Unit (black) (Manf Part Code: P1-750B-UKB9)

    Low profile RAM so you don't impede any aftermarket cpu h/s like that one you have up above.

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Corsair-CML8GX3M2A1600C9-Vengea... £41.51 & this item Delivered FREE in the UK with Super Saver Delivery
    Corsair CML8GX3M2A1600C9 LP Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 1600MHz CL9 DDR3 Memory Module Kit

    For a quiet and cool case with great airflow I would take either of these cases over that Antec 1100 in a hear beat. Both come with fan controllers, larger fans than that Antec 1100 which means lower RPM, more airflow which all equals less noise. That and their quality is way better than that Antec imo.

    http://www.scan.co.uk/products/corsair-carbide-series-5... £70.50 Ex VAT £84.60 Inc VAT
    Corsair Carbide Series 500R Grey/Black Mid Tower Case

    http://www.corsair.com/carbide-series-500r-mid-tower-ca... <----- another look at that case

    http://www.scan.co.uk/products/coolermaster-haf-xm-mid-... £70.50 Ex VAT £84.60 Inc VAT
    Coolermaster HAF XM

    http://www.coolermaster.com/product.php?product_id=6821 <----- another look at that case
    June 12, 2012 8:23:30 AM

    Why_Me said:
    Look for these changes. Also to answer your question about the thermal paste...that Cooler Master EVO you have up there comes with a small tube of TX-4 thermal compound which is about as good as it gets so no need to order more.

    Both of these boards run dual vid cards and they do it well. You can't go wrong with either board imo...that and they both o/c great.

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Asus-Motherboard-PCI-Express-Cr... £141.98 & this item Delivered FREE in the UK with Super Saver Delivery
    Asus P8Z77-V Motherboard (Socket 1155, 32GB DDR3 Support, ATX, PCI-Express 3.0, USB 3.0, Asus Wi-Fi Go Remote, SLI/CrossFireX Support, Dual Intelligent Processors 3)

    or...

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Z77-Extreme4-Motherboard-Suppor... £121.01
    AsRock Z77 Extreme4 Motherboard (Socket 1155, Intel Z77, Up to 32GB DDR3, ATX, 2 x SATA3 6.0 Gb/s, Supports NVIDIA SLI and AMD CrossFireX, Premium Gold Caps)

    This XFX psu down below is manufactured by Seasonic for XFX, it's modular, has a Silver efficiency rating and 750w gives you plenty of headroom if you ever do decided to add another one of those cards in SLI later on. 650w is cutting it close to the bone.

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Black-Edition-Power-Supply-blac... £93.18
    Xfx 750w Black Edition Power Supply Unit (black) (Manf Part Code: P1-750B-UKB9)

    Low profile RAM so you don't impede any aftermarket cpu h/s like that one you have up above.

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Corsair-CML8GX3M2A1600C9-Vengea... £41.51 & this item Delivered FREE in the UK with Super Saver Delivery
    Corsair CML8GX3M2A1600C9 LP Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 1600MHz CL9 DDR3 Memory Module Kit

    For a quiet and cool case with great airflow I would take either of these cases over that Antec 1100 in a hear beat. Both come with fan controllers, larger fans than that Antec 1100 which means lower RPM, more airflow which all equals less noise. That and their quality is way better than that Antec imo.

    http://www.scan.co.uk/products/corsair-carbide-series-5... £70.50 Ex VAT £84.60 Inc VAT
    Corsair Carbide Series 500R Grey/Black Mid Tower Case

    http://www.corsair.com/carbide-series-500r-mid-tower-ca... <----- another look at that case

    http://www.scan.co.uk/products/coolermaster-haf-xm-mid-... £70.50 Ex VAT £84.60 Inc VAT
    Coolermaster HAF XM

    http://www.coolermaster.com/product.php?product_id=6821 <----- another look at that case


    Thanks for all that, I think i will stay with the Asrock extreme4 Z77 since everyone said that they are nearly the same, and that i can get it for about £25 less than the Asus P8Z77-V mother board

    For the PSU you posted, I would need to get a 3rd delivery made so i can get it since it is from other sellers on amazon. Also, If I stay with ONE 670 graphics cards, will 650W be enough?

    For the RAM, I had that one mentioned in the first post but BLUE not BLACK. Thanks for pointing out, I might get black so it doesn't stand out! :D 

    I will go with the corsair Carbide 500R case since I don't really like red color too much in my room, and it wouldn't match the wall color. haha. :) 


    Thanks, any more ideas before i go ordering?
    June 12, 2012 8:30:21 AM

    J_E_D_70 said:
    What I was getting at is the mobo runs whatever fan you have at max RPM by default. I wouldn't want that regardless of the fan. The 212's stock fan at min rpm keeps an idle 3570K at under 30C so there's no real reason to run it above minimum (it automatically spins up as temps increase like any other mobo).


    how do I turn it down? I agree that there is not need for it to spin so fast and loud if the processor stays at a low temperature.

    So, How do I do it? Will it be in the settings or will i need to do it myself by hitting a switch (It's my first time building a computer so a lot of the things are new to me).


    Thanks! :D 

    June 12, 2012 8:33:42 AM

    TheBigTroll said:
    or you could get a noctua or a gentle typhoon fan


    I think I will stay with the Coolermaster Hyper 212 Evo, but thanks for those suggestions. I don't like the look of the noctua. Should I add another fan to the coolermaster for that "push - pull" air flow (what ever it's called)?

    thanks!
    June 12, 2012 8:34:29 AM

    fakemail15 said:
    Thanks for all that, I think i will stay with the Asrock extreme4 Z77 since everyone said that they are nearly the same, and that i can get it for about £25 less than the Asus P8Z77-V mother board

    For the PSU you posted, I would need to get a 3rd delivery made so i can get it since it is from other sellers on amazon. Also, If I stay with ONE 670 graphics cards, will 650W be enough?

    For the RAM, I had that one mentioned in the first post but BLUE not BLACK. Thanks for pointing out, I might get black so it doesn't stand out! :D 

    I will go with the corsair Carbide 500R case since I don't really like red color too much in my room, and it wouldn't match the wall color. haha. :) 


    Thanks, any more ideas before i go ordering?

    A solid 550w psu will push one of those cards. The XFX 550w is a good one with 44amps to a single rail.

    Here's a good deal on a modular Antec.

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Antec-Bronze-Modular-Power-Supp... £70.64 & this item Delivered FREE in the UK with Super Saver Delivery
    Antec 620W 80 PLUS Bronze Modular Power Supply
    June 12, 2012 8:42:08 AM

    Another thing, Will I need to add more fans to the case myself (corsair 500R) or will the 4 that the case comes be enough for nice and low temperatures( i don't mean 10oC or anything that low, I'm thinking about something around 60oC at load)? Just to remind ye, before ye say to add some, i live in Ireland where the temperatures don't get too high, we are lucky if we get nice weather in the summer. :p  it's usually about 15oC outside or around that(sometimes gets warmer but for a few days and it drops again). And in winter it is about 5oC and sometimes it can even snow (if we are lucky).

    I'm hoping you can help me out, i don't want having to get another delivery just to get fans.

    Thanks.
    June 12, 2012 8:48:20 AM

    Why_Me said:
    A solid 550w psu will push one of those cards. The XFX 550w is a good one with 44amps to a single rail.

    Here's a good deal on a modular Antec.

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Antec-Bronze-Modular-Power-Supp... £70.64 & this item Delivered FREE in the UK with Super Saver Delivery
    Antec 620W 80 PLUS Bronze Modular Power Supply

    Why are the prices so low compared to the corsair PSU's? not only that PSU but others I looked at (even with 80 plus gold) had their price lower by like £10 - £20?
    June 12, 2012 8:50:12 AM

    The fans that are built into the case will keep it plenty cool, especially if you keep the case on the high fan setting. It is one of the best cases for stock air flow.
    June 12, 2012 8:54:55 AM

    fakemail15 said:
    Why are the prices so low compared to the corsair PSU's? not only that PSU but others I looked at (even with 80 plus gold) had their price lower by like £10 - £20?

    Corsair jacks up their prices which is a bit funny seeing how Corsair doesn't manufacture any psu's. Seasonic and CWT manufacture the psu's for Corsair and Corsair sticks it's name on them. Same with XFX.... Seasonic manufactures all the XFX psu's but XFX cuts Corsair price. They do the same in the states. If Corsair marks up their psu for $150, XFX will sell the same identical psu for $130.

    Also if you don't want to mess with SLI...most people never get that second card for the fact something new and better comes along by the time they think of buying a second card, then look at this board down below.

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/AsRock-Z77-Motherboard-Socket-C... £91.99 & this item Delivered FREE in the UK with Super Saver Delivery
    AsRock Z77 Pro4 Motherboard (Socket 1155, Intel Z77, Up to 32GB DDR3, ATX, USB 3.0, 4 x SATA3 6.0 Gb/s, 100% All Solid Capacitor Design, Combo Cooler Option)

    http://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/Z77%20Pro4/ <----- another look at that board
    June 12, 2012 9:28:42 AM

    Why_Me said:
    Corsair jacks up their prices which is a bit funny seeing how Corsair doesn't manufacture any psu's. Seasonic and CWT manufacture the psu's for Corsair and Corsair sticks it's name on them. Same with XFX.... Seasonic manufactures all the XFX psu's but XFX cuts Corsair price. They do the same in the states. If Corsair marks up their psu for $150, XFX will sell the same identical psu for $130.

    Also if you don't want to mess with SLI...most people never get that second card for the fact something new and better comes along by the time they think of buying a second card, then look at this board down below.

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/AsRock-Z77-Motherboard-Socket-C... £91.99 & this item Delivered FREE in the UK with Super Saver Delivery
    AsRock Z77 Pro4 Motherboard (Socket 1155, Intel Z77, Up to 32GB DDR3, ATX, USB 3.0, 4 x SATA3 6.0 Gb/s, 100% All Solid Capacitor Design, Combo Cooler Option)

    http://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/Z77%20Pro4/ <----- another look at that board


    Why is the board going down in price so much again? What features will be lost there? Do you know any good PSU's for not more than the one I posted (i think it was £110)? I'd love if the PSU was modular and was 80 plus. Will it make a huge difference if it is 80 plus gold or silver or bronze? Also, please don't pull out some unknown company that makes them. :p 

    Thanks.
    June 12, 2012 9:29:38 AM

    hopz said:
    The fans that are built into the case will keep it plenty cool, especially if you keep the case on the high fan setting. It is one of the best cases for stock air flow.



    thanks! I am happy to hear that i won't need to spend a load more on the fans. :) 

    Thank you! :) 
    June 12, 2012 9:44:09 AM

    fakemail15 said:
    Why is the board going down in price so much again? What features will be lost there? Do you know any good PSU's for not more than the one I posted (i think it was £110)? I'd love if the PSU was modular and was 80 plus. Will it make a huge difference if it is 80 plus gold or silver or bronze? Also, please don't pull out some unknown company that makes them. :p 

    Thanks.

    That last board I posted was a single card board hence the explanation about most people not ever getting that second card like they planned.

    Look for these brands when purchasing a psu. Seasonic, Antec, Silverstone, XFX, Enermax upper tier line, and the Corsair TX/HX/AX line of psu's.
    June 12, 2012 10:05:55 AM

    Why_Me said:
    That last board I posted was a single card board hence the explanation about most people not ever getting that second card like they planned.

    Look for these brands when purchasing a psu. Seasonic, Antec, Silverstone, XFX, Enermax upper tier line, and the Corsair TX/HX/AX line of psu's.


    Thanks! Will i be able to use the USB 3.0 Ports that i will have at the front of the case if i get the asrock pro4 motherboard? And can you tell me how many USB 2.0 ports and 3.0 ports i will have on it? It is starting to confuse me a bit. :( 

    Other than the limit of 1 graphics card, will i lose anything else?

    Will i be able to have wireless internet on the computer if i get that board (it's not a must have, but it would be nice to have it wireless).

    Is the audio good on the card? i'd like to use my headset ( http://www.creative.com/soundblaster/tactic3d/sigma/ ) if it is possible. :) 

    I'll go looking for a PSU now, and let you know what i find. Will the 80 plus bronze/silver/gold make a big difference?

    THANKS!
    June 12, 2012 11:53:40 AM

    stick with the xfx one. the corsair one is not really modular
    June 12, 2012 12:06:03 PM

    You don't need a separate audio card, MOBO now a days have good sound. The only time you would need a separate card is you have hundreds and hundreds invested in speakers already. That board should also have the 3.0 USB.

    For the PSU the bronze/silver/gold is the the efficiency rating, doesn't make that big a deal. I wouldn't bother with modular either, especially with a case such as the 500r with great cable management.
    June 12, 2012 12:38:11 PM

    if you are to get a sound card, dont get creative. they suck. a good one is the asus d series. they can outperform the creative stuff for a cheap price. the mobo sound is ok for me, but i do like a extra sound card like the asus d series. they start at around 30 bucks to 80 bucks.
    June 12, 2012 1:00:59 PM

    OK,thanks. i won't bother with the sound card. i just wanted to use the headset. For some reason it doesn't work with this ancient computer. :( 

    Will non-modular PSU's have too many wires and they would just hang there taking up space and collecting more dust and making the air flow worse?

    Can ye suggest me a PSU to get because i seem to end up with the same ones all the time.
  • i don't mind if it is modular or non modular as long as it won't leave too many cables just hanging there so it doesn't result in too much dust and all that.
  • Also it HAS to be at least 80 plus PSU. And please try not too go too crazy with the cash spent on it. :)  maybe up to £110, but that will probably be more than enough cash needed for it.
  • and please post up a PSU from a known company (not exactly famous but a known company) which has good reputation(+ warranty :)  ).
  • i will most likely only add an extra HDD or an SSD in the future and nothing more (just to give ye a rough idea on how much W i will need from it).

    i think that 650W will be more than enough?


    THANK YOU! I really appreciate the help :) 
    June 12, 2012 1:07:51 PM

    -For a headset the built in sound good will be fine.

    -If you have extra cables you just tuck them behind the side panel of the case where you route all your wires. Out of the way and doesn't inhibit airflow.

    -Here's a good 650W PSU I would suggest, good brand, quiet, 5 year warranty. Then an extra $20 rebate.

    -650W will be plenty, could get away with a 550W, but I prefer to play it safe.
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
    June 12, 2012 1:25:02 PM

    Thanks. Back to the first PSU I picked out before reading about the 80 plus and what else it meant and getting the Corsair AX650 gold. haha.
    Will I be left with many unnecessary cables? Also, I am unsure about one thing, will it say where to plug in each cable? I had never experience with puting a computer together, only opening the store bought one i have now a few times to remove the dust on the fans.

    Thanks. :D 
    June 12, 2012 2:18:22 PM

    Stock fans that come with it, set to low the front fan controller, are fine.

    You set the CPU fan in the BIOS (hold the Delete key during boot).

    Push-pull is not necessary for your config.
    June 12, 2012 2:26:53 PM

    J_E_D_70 said:
    Stock fans that come with it, set to low the front fan controller, are fine.

    You set the CPU fan in the BIOS (hold the Delete key during boot).

    Push-pull is not necessary for your config.

    Ohh THANK YOU! :D  I'll be able to turn it down and up! cool! :D 
    June 12, 2012 4:03:23 PM

    fakemail15 said:
    Why is the board going down in price so much again? What features will be lost there? Do you know any good PSU's for not more than the one I posted (i think it was £110)? I'd love if the PSU was modular and was 80 plus. Will it make a huge difference if it is 80 plus gold or silver or bronze? Also, please don't pull out some unknown company that makes them. :p 

    Thanks.

    http://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/Z77%20Pro4/?cat=Specific...

    USB 3.0 - 2 x Rear USB 3.0 ports, support USB 1.0/2.0/3.0 up to 5Gb/s
    - 1 x Front USB 3.0 header (supports 2 USB 3.0 ports), supports USB 1.0/2.0/3.0 up to 5Gb/s

    Audio - 7.1 CH HD Audio with Content Protection (Realtek ALC892 Audio Codec)
    - Premium Blu-ray audio support
    - Supports THX TruStudio™

    1 x PCI Express 3.0 x16 slot (PCIE2: x16 mode)
    - 1 x PCI Express 2.0 x16 slot (PCIE3: x4 mode)
    - 1 x PCI Express 2.0 x1 slot
    - 3 x PCI slots
    June 12, 2012 4:28:16 PM

    so i have this in my build so far:

    RAM: Corsair CML8GX3M2A1600C9 LP Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 1600MHz CL9 DDR3 Memory Module Kit

    HDD: Western Digital Caviar Black 1 TB 7200 RPM

    Processor: Intel 3rd Generation Core i5-3570K

    PSU: Corsair Enthusiast Series TX650 V2 High Performance 650W

    Case: Corsair Carbide Series 500R Grey/Black Mid Tower Case

    Processor Cooler: Coolermaster Hyper 212 EVO

    Graphics Card: Asus 2GB GeForce GTX 670 DirectCU II

    Optical Drive: SATA Lightscribe 22x DVDRW with BlacK Bezel - OEM

    Keyboard: Razer Blackwidow

    Mouse: Razer Deathadder

    Motherboard: AsRock Z77 Pro4

    or ASRock Z77 Extreme 4


  • I am still waiting for a reply on the motherboard difference;
  • I will look into the Optical Drive reviews to see if it's good;
  • The Coolermaster hyper 212 is not in stock yet so I am going to wait for it to be back in before i make my order on anything.


    Once i get those things, i will be able to make my purchase! I can't wait! :D  :D  :D 

    Thank you everyone who helped me so far. Also, just because i have those picked out, doesn't mean that i don't want anymore ideas from you, so keep posting please.

    THANKS!
    June 12, 2012 4:39:54 PM

    Why_Me said:
    http://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/Z77%20Pro4/?cat=Specific...

    USB 3.0 - 2 x Rear USB 3.0 ports, support USB 1.0/2.0/3.0 up to 5Gb/s
    - 1 x Front USB 3.0 header (supports 2 USB 3.0 ports), supports USB 1.0/2.0/3.0 up to 5Gb/s

    Audio - 7.1 CH HD Audio with Content Protection (Realtek ALC892 Audio Codec)
    - Premium Blu-ray audio support
    - Supports THX TruStudio™

    1 x PCI Express 3.0 x16 slot (PCIE2: x16 mode)
    - 1 x PCI Express 2.0 x16 slot (PCIE3: x4 mode)
    - 1 x PCI Express 2.0 x1 slot
    - 3 x PCI slots

    I don't really understand that. From what i can guess is:
  • it has 2 back usb 3.0 ports,
  • it has one header for usb 3.0 which supports upto 2 ubs ports
  • it has good audio
  • it has 1 PCI Express 3.0 x16 slot
  • it has 1 x PCI Express 2.0 x16 slot
  • it has 1 x PCI Express 2.0 x1 slot
  • and all that adds upto a total of 3 PCI slots?

    It is all starting to confuse me. haha. PCI slots are for the graphics cards? those long slots on the board?

    Thanks for that, i found it myself but i didn't really understand so that's why i asked you.
    June 12, 2012 4:51:18 PM

    fakemail15 said:
    I don't really understand that. From what i can guess is:
  • it has 2 back usb 3.0 ports,
  • it has one header for usb 3.0 which supports upto 2 ubs ports
  • it has good audio
  • it has 1 PCI Express 3.0 x16 slot
  • it has 1 x PCI Express 2.0 x16 slot
  • it has 1 x PCI Express 2.0 x1 slot
  • and all that adds upto a total of 3 PCI slots?

    It is all starting to confuse me. haha. PCI slots are for the graphics cards? those long slots on the board?

    Thanks for that, i found it myself but i didn't really understand so that's why i asked you.

  • That Asrock Pro 4 is similar to the Asrock extrem4 other than it's mean to run a single card.

    For 3 more quid you can step up into a modular psu (less cables to mess with).

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Antec-Bronze-Modular-Power-Supp... £70.64 & this item Delivered FREE in the UK with Super Saver Delivery
    Antec 620W 80 PLUS Bronze Modular Power Supply
    June 12, 2012 5:00:56 PM

    Thanks for the PSU, I'll look at it.

    Another thing! after i posted the build i had above, the HDD got taken down because "a costumer didn't get what he ordered" and they took it down for a while. it can take a few hours, or a few weeks for them to put it up. Any other suggestion on HDD if that one doesn't come up!?! I'd prefer a Western Digital or Seagate, and for it to be similar to the one i had ( 7200rpm, 64/32mb cache etc.).

    Sorry about that, thanks!
    June 12, 2012 5:25:36 PM

    fakemail15 said:
    Thanks for the PSU, I'll look at it.

    Another thing! after i posted the build i had above, the HDD got taken down because "a costumer didn't get what he ordered" and they took it down for a while. it can take a few hours, or a few weeks for them to put it up. Any other suggestion on HDD if that one doesn't come up!?! I'd prefer a Western Digital or Seagate, and for it to be similar to the one i had ( 7200rpm, 64/32mb cache etc.).

    Sorry about that, thanks!

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Seagate-Barracuda-7200-12-7200r... £68.50 & this item Delivered FREE in the UK with Super Saver Delivery
    Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 1TB Hard Drive (7200rpm) SATA 64MB (Internal)
    June 12, 2012 6:20:52 PM

    fakemail15 said:
    do you know what the warranty is on this HDD?

    I believe it's 1 year vs 3 - 5 years for the WD drive, so if you can I would look at the WD Black first.
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