Building a new computer, a lot of questions. (1000-1300€)

[iZver]

Hello!

I'm building a new computer. Here's what I am thinking off right now.

Approximate Purchase Date: soon

Budget Range: 1000-1300

System Usage from Most to Least Important: gaming, streaming, game recording, video processing

Parts Not Required: keyboard mouse screen

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: mimovrste.si enaa.si sestavi.si
(Sites are in slovenian, so don't worry if you cant use them)

Country: slovenia

Parts Preferences: by brand or type: Don't know which is better right now. Thats why I'm asking

Overclocking: no

SLI or Crossfire: maybe

Monitor Resolution: 1680x1050 -- maybe i'll upgrade at one time

Here's what I thought off so far:

Mainboard S-1155 ASUS Sabertooth Z77, ATX 227.16€
Procesor INTEL Core i7 - 3770K, 3,50GHz, LGA1155, Quad-Core, Boxed 334.97€
DDR3-RAM KIT 8 GB, 1600 MHz, CL9, CORSAIR Vengeance Low Profile 55.06€
PCI-E 3.0 SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition, Lite retail, 2048MB 323.42€
WD Green 1TB SATA3 64MB WD10EZRX 95.73€
DVD/RW Sony AD-7280 SATA 18.34€
Midi THERMALTAKE V3 BlacX Edition 47.20€
ATX 650 Watt, THERMALTAKE Smart M650W, 650W, 80Plus-Bronze 68.17€
SSD 60GB 2.5'' SATA3 MLC, OCZ Agility 3 73.09€

Total: 1243.14€

I'm hoping you can give me some advice, because I am certain I can make my system better with the budget I have.

-The computer will be used mainly for gaming and game recording/streaming. The games are the like off Guild wars2 and minecraft.

-I want the computer to last me as long as possible. I was considering going with SLI/Crossfire, but I think a single better graphics card is better.

-Also, I have considered liquid cooling, but since I wont be overclocking I dont think that will be necessary. HOWEVER I will be buying an aftermarket cpu cooler to make my CPU last longer.

-As you can see there is a 60GB SSD drive, which should be plenty for running windows and a couple of games.

-Also, Is 8gb ram enough or should I got with 16gb?

-Is AMD+Intel cpu working fine? Aren't intel+nvidea playing along better?

Thanks for all your help! Cheers!

 

[manofchalk]

you wont need the i7, an i5-3570k will do just fine.

For gaming, you wont need more than 8GB of RAM. If a big part of the machines job is video rendering, you may want 12 or 16GB

Why a Green Drive? Better off with a standard 7200RPM drive. Seagate Barracuda 64MB and the 64MB Caviar Blacks are good ones.

If your not overclocking, you wont need an aftermarket cooler, especially water cooling. Though if you want one for the peace of mind, the Coolermaster Hyper 212 EVO is a good cheap cooler.

If your not running Crossfire/SLI or overclocking, you don't need such a high end motherboard. A H77 single PCI-E board will do just fine.

With the cash saved on the mobo, get yourself a bigger and better SSD. 60GB of OCZ Agility 3 isnt all that great. Id recommend a 128GB Crucial M4 or 128GB OCZ Vertex 4.

That build doesn't include a case. I suggest getting what you have left and buying what you can from the Coolermaster HAF series or Corsair's range. Both are essentially equal, decide between them based on which you think looks better.

 

[iZver]

Spoiler

you wont need the i7, an i5-3570k will do just fine.

For gaming, you wont need more than 8GB of RAM. If a big part of the machines job is video rendering, you may want 12 or 16GB

Why a Green Drive? Better off with a standard 7200RPM drive. Seagate Barracuda 64MB and the 64MB Caviar Blacks are good ones.

If your not overclocking, you wont need an aftermarket cooler, especially water cooling. Though if you want one for the peace of mind, the Coolermaster Hyper 212 EVO is a good cheap cooler.

If your not running Crossfire/SLI or overclocking, you don't need such a high end motherboard. A H77 single PCI-E board will do just fine.

With the cash saved on the mobo, get yourself a bigger and better SSD. 60GB of OCZ Agility 3 isnt all that great. Id recommend a 128GB Crucial M4 or 128GB OCZ Vertex 4.

That build doesn't include a case. I suggest getting what you have left and buying what you can from the Coolermaster HAF series or Corsair's range. Both are essentially equal, decide between them based on which you think looks better.

Thanks for the fast reply.

So here's the revised build (the cahnged items are bold):

Mainboard S-1155 ASUS P8H77-V LE, ATX 98.82€
INTEL Core i5 - 3570K, 3,40GHz, LGA1155, Quad-Core, Boxed 229.73€
DDR3-RAM KIT 8 GB, 1600 MHz, CL9, CORSAIR Vengeance Low Profile 55.06€
PCI-E 3.0 SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition, Lite retail, 2048MB 323.42€
WD 3TB 64MB 5400 SATA3 Caviar Green WD30EZRX) 181.60€
DVD/RW Sony AD-7280 SATA 18.34€
OH.COOLER MASTER MIDT HAF 922 BLACK RC - 922M 124.41€
Napajalnik ATX 650 Watt, THERMALTAKE Smart M650W, 650W, 80Plus-Bronze 68.17€
SSD 128GB 2.5'' SATA3 MLC, CRUCIAL m4 123.14€

What about the GPU? Is it fine? Also, there was not corsairs in that store. I did find a caviar Green. Should I check differend stores for that particular hard drive, or is this one fine?

What about the power supply?

Also, there was a case was in there Midi THERMALTAKE V3 BlacX Edition, but i choose haf922 because the revised build is a lot cheaper.

Thanks

 

[iZver]

Bump.

Still want to know about the GPU, and whether 7200 HDD really far superior is? (for playing games, and recording videos, editing videos and uploading them)

Also, is the mainboard good enough? I fear it may bottleneck my sytem

This is a cheap alternative:
Asrock Z77 PRO, VGA, LGA1155 120,20 €

 

[manofchalk]

sorry for not replying.

the HD7870 isnt the greatest there is, but it will run most games at high very easily, some very high end games like Crysis 2, Metro 2033 and Battlefield 3 you may have to compromise a bit for framerates (though with a bit of an overclock, that wont be an issue. Overclocking is worth figuring out.)

The Caviar Green is the same hard drive, you can see in the name it runs 5400RPM, which is well in the energy saving range. For a consumer there's no point in energy saving drives. A 7200RPM drive will increase performance (relative). When your recording HD footage to a 7200RPM HDD, it will struggle to keep up and will degrade performance, heres a video that explains this better than I can. So getting an even slower hard drive will handicap you even more.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEGDgzlc7mA&feature=plcp
(Skip to 5:10 for the bit that relates to you)

Possible work-around to the problem would be to record to your SSD, then move it to the HDD for storage.

That PSU should be fine Wattage wise unless you want crossfire. Thermaltake isnt the most notable of PSU brands. Alternatives to Corsair are Seasonic and Silverstone, they are all of about equal repute.

That mobo should be fine, only bottlenecks in a Mobo (I can think of) are the number of SATA3 ports. You should only need 2 so no worries there.

 

[Why_Me]

Here's another Asus board to have a look at. It supports SLI/Crossfire and it solid.


http://www.mimovrste.com/artikel/2380012824/maticna-plosca-asus-p8z77-v-lk-vga-lga1155 142,13 €
Asus P8Z77-V LK, VGA, LGA1155