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3D Gaming on a projector: Nvidia GTX 560 ti vs Radeon HD 7850

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April 14, 2012 6:51:05 PM

I'm slowly piecing together a little 3D gaming rig and am close to choosing the final part, which video card to go with.

For the guts, the card will be paired with a i7 2600k, a GIGABYTE GA-Z68X-UD3H-B3 board, 8GB Samsung DDR3 1600 memory ( MV-3V4G3D/US), and a Corsair TX-650.

The bulk of the time I'll be gaming on a Optoma HD33 projector (it can only run 3D in 1080p 24hz I've read that this makes 3D gaming at 1080p almost unplayable, so I'll be displaying at 720p 60hz for 3D gaming) but I play to pick up a 3d monitor in the future.

So, for 3D gaming, which would you guys choose, the GTX 560 ti or HD 7850? I know the is a better gaming card, but I've read nvidia wins (as of today) in the 3D world when dealing with compatibility.

So, what cha' think?
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April 14, 2012 6:57:37 PM

Definitely the 7850. Drivers will improve over time.

If you're talking about driver compatibility, maybe a few games will have problems but for the most part, everything will play nicely.
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April 14, 2012 7:08:16 PM

And BTW, here's a comparison (Guru3D) of the 7850 and 560 Ti .... very close but the 7850 costs too much

Game - 7850 - 560 Ti - 560 Ti (900Mhz)
COD-MW - 127 - 123 - 134
Bad Company - 2 - 50 - 47 - 51
Far Cry 2 - 78 - 81 - 88
Metro 2033 - 27 - 23 - 26
Dawn of Discovery - 78 - 68 - 73
Total - 360 - 342 - 372
Cost - $260 - $200 - $210

Costs (US) per frame:

7850 = $0.72
560 Ti = $0.58
560 Ti Cu = $0.56
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April 14, 2012 8:42:52 PM

JackNaylorPE said:
And BTW, here's a comparison (Guru3D) of the 7850 and 560 Ti .... very close but the 7850 costs too much

Game - 7850 - 560 Ti - 560 Ti (900Mhz)
COD-MW - 127 - 123 - 134
Bad Company - 2 - 50 - 47 - 51
Far Cry 2 - 78 - 81 - 88
Metro 2033 - 27 - 23 - 26
Dawn of Discovery - 78 - 68 - 73
Total - 360 - 342 - 372
Cost - $260 - $200 - $210

Costs (US) per frame:

7850 = $0.72
560 Ti = $0.58
560 Ti Cu = $0.56


Nice dissection
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April 14, 2012 9:36:40 PM

JackNaylorPE said:
And BTW, here's a comparison (Guru3D) of the 7850 and 560 Ti .... very close but the 7850 costs too much

Game - 7850 - 560 Ti - 560 Ti (900Mhz)
COD-MW - 127 - 123 - 134
Bad Company - 2 - 50 - 47 - 51
Far Cry 2 - 78 - 81 - 88
Metro 2033 - 27 - 23 - 26
Dawn of Discovery - 78 - 68 - 73
Total - 360 - 342 - 372
Cost - $260 - $200 - $210

Costs (US) per frame:

7850 = $0.72
560 Ti = $0.58
560 Ti Cu = $0.56


That's good stuff right there, thanks man.

So, any thoughts on the GTX 560 Ti 900 (Superclocked) vs GTX 560 Ti 448 core version?
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April 14, 2012 9:44:53 PM

When was that benchmark? Drivers / performance improves overtime and you can get a 7850 for $240 on Newegg.

The 7850 also comes with 2GB of VRAM which might be important for future games.
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April 14, 2012 10:51:27 PM

e56imfg said:
When was that benchmark? Drivers / performance improves overtime and you can get a 7850 for $240 on Newegg.

The 7850 also comes with 2GB of VRAM which might be important for future games.


The 2gb of VRAM is tempting!

Here's the deal, I'm been almost anti ATI/AMD to this point due to handshake issues with my AVR and lack of 3D support with certain cards in the past. And the little GT430 I have in my HTPC has done nothing but treat me like gold for what I ask of it, so I'm kinda leaning towards Nvidia due to that.

Like I said, I want this almost purely for 3D gaming so that's where I want to put my money, and while the 7850 is a bit beefier and future prff, the right gtx 560 ti (with nvidias bigger effort in supporting 3D gaming) might be the right choice for me.

Soooo, torn. Ha.

I'm not ordering for till next week so please convince me which way to go guys and gals!
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April 14, 2012 11:43:35 PM

JackNaylorPE said:
And BTW, here's a comparison (Guru3D) of the 7850 and 560 Ti .... very close but the 7850 costs too much

Game - 7850 - 560 Ti - 560 Ti (900Mhz)
COD-MW - 127 - 123 - 134
Bad Company - 2 - 50 - 47 - 51
Far Cry 2 - 78 - 81 - 88
Metro 2033 - 27 - 23 - 26
Dawn of Discovery - 78 - 68 - 73
Total - 360 - 342 - 372
Cost - $260 - $200 - $210

Costs (US) per frame:

7850 = $0.72
560 Ti = $0.58
560 Ti Cu = $0.56

actually the 7850 is much faster than the 560ti in fact even the 448 is a bit slower in most games. By the way weak game line up you have posted there and how about a link for reference to your bold claims or are they just in your honest opinion ?
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April 14, 2012 11:45:12 PM

futurecode said:
That's good stuff right there, thanks man.

So, any thoughts on the GTX 560 Ti 900 (Superclocked) vs GTX 560 Ti 448 core version?

Don't listen to the Nvidia bigot the 7850 is a faster card in fact it is more in competition with the GTX 560 ti 448 and GTX 570 and it blows away the 560ti just have alook around the net at the reviews and see for yourself.
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April 14, 2012 11:48:47 PM

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What do you mean by "3D support"?


Nvidia and their cards support more 3D capable games and tend to be better with patches/support than AMD/ATI.
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April 14, 2012 11:55:12 PM

futurecode said:
Nvidia and their cards support more 3D capable games and tend to be better with patches/support than AMD/ATI.

AMD drivers are just as good as Nvidias I have the same amount of issues with my Nvidia cards as I do with Radeon. 3D is hard to recommend unless you are considering the high end cards for reason being 3D effectively cut framerate in half so double what you think will be adequate as far as a GPU and doable your budget at the same time.
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April 15, 2012 12:13:15 AM

In terms of 3D, as in 3D Vision or HD3D, you'll find 3D Vision has a little more support and generally easier to work with. However, in a single card configuration, you may find "Virtual 3D" to be very useful for improved performance, which is available with HD3D (AMD systems).

I chose 3D Vision, and am happy about it, but it's not 100% better.
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April 15, 2012 12:13:45 AM

MMO Fan said:
AMD drivers are just as good as Nvidias I have the same amount of issues with my Nvidia cards as I do with Radeon. 3D is hard to recommend unless you are considering the high end cards for reason being 3D effectively cut framerate in half so double what you think will be adequate as far as a GPU and doable your budget at the same time.


I could be wrong, but with me 3D gaming at 720p (what my projector can do in 3d) and not 1080p wouldn't the resolution drop alleviate some of the strain issues on these cards?
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April 15, 2012 12:15:48 AM




I know they support all games in 2D, but unless I'm mistaken, they do not support all 3D games, which is my core question/issue/inquiry.
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April 15, 2012 12:28:00 AM

I'd have to look towards NV in anything to do with 3d they have been at it quite a bit longer maybe look at the 560ti 448 remember now you would be rendering each frame twice so 3D really hurts frame rates.
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August 19, 2012 3:40:32 PM

I still confuses choosing between HD 7850 or GTX 560 Ti. Since i've used Asrock 970 Extreme 4, which is better card for my PC??? thx
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August 19, 2012 4:33:28 PM

as 7850 is latest generation i would prefer it

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August 19, 2012 4:47:33 PM

didonk5451 said:
I still confuses choosing between HD 7850 or GTX 560 Ti. Since i've used Asrock 970 Extreme 4, which is better card for my PC??? thx


You should make your own post rather than opening an old thread. This thread is also about 3D, as in 3D Vision or HD3D (though I suspect several people here didn't catch that). You'd have to be more specific on your question, because if you are asking the question here, I'd assume you are looking at 3D Vision or HD3D, even though your question didn't specify.
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