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1000$ gaming/editing PC

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June 12, 2012 3:36:54 AM

I will use this software: CS6 production premium and a lot of games

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3550 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($205.93 @ DirectCanada)
Motherboard: MSI Z77MA-G45 Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($116.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Memory: Mushkin Radioactive 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($39.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Memory: Mushkin Radioactive 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($39.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Hard Drive: Mushkin Chronos 60GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($67.99 @ NCIX)
Hard Drive: Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 320GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($39.88 @ Canada Computers)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon HD 7870 2GB Video Card ($338.91 @ DirectCanada)
Case: Thermaltake VL90001W2Z ATX Mid Tower Case ($56.88 @ Canada Computers)
Power Supply: Thermaltake 650W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($83.99 @ Computer Valley)
Total: $990.55
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-06-11 23:39 EDT-0400)

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June 12, 2012 6:15:07 AM

So CS6... and a Radeon? Why???

Sorry, anyone specifically saying they are going to be doing editing in CS6 and then specifying a Radeon confuses me. By selecting a Radeon you are deciding to specifically opt out of using the largest performance-enhancing feature added to Premiere in CS 5.... CUDA acceleration. Yes, the CUDA acceleration does still require a NVIDIA gpu in windows.
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June 12, 2012 6:22:03 AM

@Draven35
Well, actually CS6 uses OpenCL now for some Radeon cards too, so either way, he will still be able to enhance his performance in CS6. In addition, at that price point, the Radeon HD 7870 hits the sweet-spot, especially since NVIDIA hasn't released a GTX 660 to compete with it as well. With a Radeon HD 7870, he gets 96.7% of the performance of a 7950 for 89.2% of the price ($338 (price of his card)/$380 (price of Radeon HD 7950). You can think of the Radeon HD 7870 as being very close to the performance of the GTX 580, if not beating it in some games.

Benchmarks for CS6 using OpenCL: http://www.tomshardware.com/review [...] 08-13.html
Radeon HD 7870 Benchmark and Conclusion: http://www.tomshardware.com/review [...] 48-21.html

@elysio
You may want to get a quad channel kit since those kits should have been tested together and ensured to work, which should help reduce problems regarding ram. An example might be http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Produ [...] 6820231315
You might also want a Virtu MVP capable motherboard since it will allow you to use your IGP in addition to your discrete GPU to boost your fps later on.

Btw, if you feel/know my information is wrong, feel free to constructively criticize my advice and help me learn some more too :) .
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June 12, 2012 10:10:57 AM

Premiere Pro CS6 uses OpenCL for *some* AMD GPUs under OSX. Their information on the site specifically says so. (http://www.adobe.com/products/premiere/tech-specs.html ). Says nothing about OpenCL or Radeon support under Windows. Note they also do not list support for NVIDIA 6x0 series cards.
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June 13, 2012 1:55:05 AM

Draven35 said:
So CS6... and a Radeon? Why???

Sorry, anyone specifically saying they are going to be doing editing in CS6 and then specifying a Radeon confuses me. By selecting a Radeon you are deciding to specifically opt out of using the largest performance-enhancing feature added to Premiere in CS 5.... CUDA acceleration. Yes, the CUDA acceleration does still require a NVIDIA gpu in windows.


The problem is the gtx570, the only one i can afford, is worst in everything else. My budget is 1000$ maximum. If you can show me a build under 1000$, that can run after effects smoothly (like not taking 1 hour to render a 30 second shot, or randomly crashing), please tell me.
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June 13, 2012 1:56:04 AM

Youngmind said:
@Draven35
Well, actually CS6 uses OpenCL now for some Radeon cards too, so either way, he will still be able to enhance his performance in CS6. In addition, at that price point, the Radeon HD 7870 hits the sweet-spot, especially since NVIDIA hasn't released a GTX 660 to compete with it as well. With a Radeon HD 7870, he gets 96.7% of the performance of a 7950 for 89.2% of the price ($338 (price of his card)/$380 (price of Radeon HD 7950). You can think of the Radeon HD 7870 as being very close to the performance of the GTX 580, if not beating it in some games.

Benchmarks for CS6 using OpenCL: http://www.tomshardware.com/review [...] 08-13.html
Radeon HD 7870 Benchmark and Conclusion: http://www.tomshardware.com/review [...] 48-21.html

@elysio
You may want to get a quad channel kit since those kits should have been tested together and ensured to work, which should help reduce problems regarding ram. An example might be http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Produ [...] 6820231315
You might also want a Virtu MVP capable motherboard since it will allow you to use your IGP in addition to your discrete GPU to boost your fps later on.

Btw, if you feel/know my information is wrong, feel free to constructively criticize my advice and help me learn some more too :) .


The link dosen't work btw.
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June 13, 2012 3:27:58 AM

Are you talking editing (Premiere) or compositing (After Effects)? If you're primarily going to be doing work in AE, then you need more CPU and RAM (esp cpu cores and hyperthreading) than GPU. Either way, an older GTX 470 would fit into your budget fine.
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June 13, 2012 11:46:52 PM

Draven35 said:
Are you talking editing (Premiere) or compositing (After Effects)? If you're primarily going to be doing work in AE, then you need more CPU and RAM (esp cpu cores and hyperthreading) than GPU. Either way, an older GTX 470 would fit into your budget fine.


Both. Should i go with the 2011 socket?
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June 14, 2012 4:08:34 AM

Not on your budget. You should try to work an i7 into the budget, tho.
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June 14, 2012 11:31:41 PM

Draven35 said:
Not on your budget. You should try to work an i7 into the budget, tho.


I think this'll do.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-3770 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($309.99 @ Memory Express)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77M-D3H Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($99.99 @ NCIX)
Memory: Mushkin Blackline 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($84.99 @ Canada Computers)
Hard Drive: Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 320GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($39.88 @ Canada Computers)
Hard Drive: Corsair Nova Series 2 30GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($51.99 @ Computer Valley)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 570 1.25GB Video Card ($269.99 @ NCIX)
Case: Thermaltake VL90001W2Z ATX Mid Tower Case ($56.88 @ Canada Computers)
Power Supply: Antec 620W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($64.99 @ Canada Computers)
Total: $978.70
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-06-14 19:31 EDT-0400)
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June 15, 2012 5:56:19 AM

What kind of video are you planning on editing? 320 GB isn't much for video storage...
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June 16, 2012 2:16:34 AM

Draven35 said:
What kind of video are you planning on editing? 320 GB isn't much for video storage...


I have an external 2tb hard drive, I'll only edit one project at a time then archive it.
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June 16, 2012 4:28:52 AM

External what kind? e-SATA? as i asked, what kind of video is it?
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June 16, 2012 10:43:14 PM

Draven35 said:
External what kind? e-SATA? as i asked, what kind of video is it?


It is USB3

I will be editing 720p video mostly at 60 fps, and sometimes 1080i video at 30 fps. Oh, I'll also be programming a little in java, maybe c++
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June 16, 2012 11:24:17 PM

The type of compression will also impact the use of the drive. That said, I'd be real hesitant about using an external USB drive for video editing.
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June 17, 2012 12:05:25 AM

Draven35 said:
The type of compression will also impact the use of the drive. That said, I'd be real hesitant about using an external USB drive for video editing.


as i said, It's just for archiving finished projects. I will not access it during actual editing. As for the compression, I don't know, it depends. sometimes HDV or AVCHD, or just DV. after editing, i export in .mov or .mp4 usually.
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June 17, 2012 5:32:25 AM

Ok, well... my thesis film was almost 320 GB of raw footage, but that was DVCPro100...
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June 17, 2012 7:45:17 PM

I modified it a little:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-3770 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($316.03 @ DirectCanada)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77M-D3H Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($99.99 @ NCIX)
Memory: Mushkin Blackline 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($84.99 @ Canada Computers)
Hard Drive: Western Digital Scorpio Blue 320GB 2.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($42.87 @ Expansys Canada)
Hard Drive: OCZ Octane 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($64.00 @ NCIX)
Video Card: Galaxy GeForce GTX 570 1.25GB Video Card ($229.99 @ NCIX)
Case: Antec One ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ NCIX)
Power Supply: Antec 650W ATX12V Power Supply ($60.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Total: $928.85
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
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