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Is my Phenom II X4 965 3.4ghz bottlenecking my 660ti?

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October 12, 2012 6:02:15 AM

i am playing borderlands 2. and in both games when i look into city areas the FPS slows down from a smooth 60 fps to around 30-40 when i look in cities, but other big areas it seems to run fine. i have the settings at ultra, i would expect the MSI 660ti Super clocked edition (core clock of 1000MHZ) should be able to handle borderlands 2 smoothly 100% of the time. (am i right? if not please correct mE)

i was wondering if it was because my CPU. in other games like arma 2 (dayZ) when i look in cities my FPS slow down significantly also and in Team Fortress 2 in certain areas it slows down to 30 FPS as well. anyone know the problem? will upgrading to an i5 intel processor liekly help with these performance hiccups? (money isnt a problem)

I have also heard that AMD CPU's tend to bottleneck NVIDIA GPU's. is this true?

I also play at 1920x1080 resolution
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October 12, 2012 6:02:37 AM

Yes.

In B2, overclocking the CPU is recommended.

I'd first overclock to around 4ghz, then see if you like the performance.
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October 12, 2012 6:07:11 AM

amuffin said:
Yes.

In B2, overclocking the CPU is recommended.

I'd first overclock to around 4ghz, then see if you like the performance.



For overclocking, i think i should get a better cooler first. maybe a decent water cooler cus right now this thing runs hot, i cant OC or i think it'd die out on me haha. it already gets to about 65*-67*when playing games.
will buying a good i5 processor work?

anyone else have any input?
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October 12, 2012 6:12:22 AM

I'm with amuffin, get you a Cooler Master 212 Hyper Evo ($29.99 + Free Shipping - $10 MIR = $19.99) and go to town.

An i5-2500K would be a very nice improvement but to OC you'd still need the above mentioned Heatsink plus motherboard, you're looking at about a $400 upgrade.

i5-2500K, Biostar TZ77B Mobo, CM 212 Evo $350 shipped $320 after MIR.

You can go more expensive on the motherboard, I just chose a cheap Z77 that has good reviews on both Newegg and it was recommended here on Tom's.
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October 12, 2012 6:14:50 AM

I'd first OC, before you upgrade. :) 
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October 12, 2012 6:24:16 AM

amuffin said:
I'd first OC, before you upgrade. :) 


I concur, which is what I said. The thing is the stock Fan & HS I wouldn't recommend pushing it too far. Might not be able to push far enough to see much of an improvement.

Just did quick research and the max operating temp on the 965 BE appears to be ~65c.
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October 12, 2012 6:24:20 AM

dscudella said:
I'm with amuffin, get you a Cooler Master 212 Hyper Evo ($29.99 + Free Shipping - $10 MIR = $19.99) and go to town.

An i5-2500K would be a very nice improvement but to OC you'd still need the above mentioned Heatsink plus motherboard, you're looking at about a $400 upgrade.

i5-2500K, Biostar TZ77B Mobo, CM 212 Evo $350 shipped $320 after MIR.


just to let you know you are posting a link to the PLUS not the evo (unless there is no difference sorry not sure, i heard the PLUS is better anyway)

i think ill buy the heatsink and fan first to O.C. my Phenom, then get the intel CPU eventually. i don't need a intel MOBBO just yet ( does having a AMD mobo with a intel CPU matter?) i know i cant do SLI on the one i have http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... but that's the only bad thing about the Mobo i know about as far as compatibility issues go
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October 12, 2012 6:26:47 AM

Yeah sorry about that. There hasn't been a real difference between the two that I can find. Get whichever one is cheaper. The 212 Plus is $30 with a $10 MIR, winner. You cannot run an Intel CPU on an AMD board. You either get the cooler now for your 965BE or you upgrade everything.

Quick comparison between the 965BE & i5-2500K These are at stock speeds, so overclocked the i5 will widen the margin.
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October 12, 2012 6:30:55 AM

dscudella said:
Yeah sorry about that. There hasn't been a real difference between the two that I can find. Get whichever one is cheaper. The 212 Plus is $30 with a $10 MIR, winner. You cannot run an Intel CPU on an AMD board. You either get the cooler now for your 965BE or you upgrade everything.

Oh dang, i didnt know i cant run an intel CPU on it. thanks for letting meknow. oh well it'll take me a little longer to upgrade but it'll be worth it. also, is this better than the 2500k for gaming? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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October 12, 2012 6:42:06 AM

If you're going to with an Intel go with a "K" or "X" series. They are unlocked. That i5-3570 won't overclock, but this one will.

As far as the difference between Sandy Bridge (2500K) and Ivy Bridge (3570K) is at the clock speeds, let's say 4.0ghz, the Ivy Bridge is actually about 200-300 mhz faster. The bad part is the Ivy puts out more heat than the Sandy at the same speed which allows the Sandy to be pushed farther safely while using the same cooler.
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October 12, 2012 6:44:06 AM

ProfessorBAG said:
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I have also heard that AMD CPU's tend to bottleneck NVIDIA GPU's. is this true?

I also play at 1920x1080 resolution


Everyone else has the answers here pretty much covered. But nobody that I noticed commented on this..

No, AMD CPUs will get along happily with Nvidia graphics cards, and likewise, AMD graphics cards work just fine with Intel CPUs.
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October 12, 2012 7:14:38 AM

They even bottleneck their own cards :p 
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October 12, 2012 7:18:00 AM

amuffin said:
They even bottleneck their own cards :p 

Pssh. I do teh BF3 Multiplayer maps just fine with mah seven-eight-seven brah! Although, I'm totally hooked on BattlefieldPlay4Free. I know, it can't even compete with the beauty of BF3, but I'm not someone to make angry when I'm behind the wheel of an APC at Dragon Valley. :kaola: 
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