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June 12, 2012 7:36:06 PM

First of all,hello everyone ;)  I'm buying new gaming PC for me and I need some advices from people who are acknowledged in this sphere. Cause I'm new here,I'll start by the rules.

Approximate Purchase Date: This week

Budget Range: Doesn't matter too much

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Only Games

Parts Not Required: mouse,keyboard,monitor,speakers,case,hdd,ram.

Preferred Website for Parts: amazon.com

Parts Preferences: Asus,MSI mobo,Intel processors,Nvidia video cards

Overclocking: Maybe

SLI or Crossfire: Maybe<NO

Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080

Additional Comments: At this moment,I've got monitor with full hd resolution (1920x1080),5.1 audio system,Server Case with all coolers,1TB SATA Seagate Barracuda and 2x4GB 1600 DDR3 G.Skill-s. All I need from you guys is advice for buying mobo with it's processor and video card.

As I mentioned computer will be used only for games,but that doesn't mean I'm hardcore player who needs antialiasing 16xx and such things,I just want to play games on full HD resolution with just (normal) High Settings. I think you understand what I'm talking about. So at this moment I just stopped at 1155 socket Z77 with i5 processor 2500-2600K and Nvidia 560(don't know exactly which one). So please give me advices which parts do I need to play right now all the games smoothly and also games for future 3-4 years,thanks in advance and if any questions,just post them,I'm 24/24 here,thanks again :) 

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June 12, 2012 7:45:28 PM

CPU: 2500k or 3570k with the hyper 212 cooler
GPU: gtx670 is a good deal if you want to spend $400 on it. Otherwise a 7850 for $250.

The 2500K is more overclock friendly and a bit cheaper. The 3570k performs about 5% better per clock and is a bit harder to OC with the same cooler. Both are good choices though. If you don't OC don't get a 'k' series cpu.

The 670 will play everything at max currently and likely for a few years at 1920x1080. The 7850 will play everything except Metro and BF3 at max and will still play games quite well down the road. If you want to go cheaper, the 560ti can be had for around $210. But the 7850 and 670 offer the best bang for your buck.

For the mobo I recommend the ASRock z77 extreme4 for $135 unless you want something cheaper: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Also you will want an SSD. It vastly improves your computing experience. The 128GB crucial m4, 128GB samsung 830 and the 120GB mushkin advanced are all good choices. Crucial and samsung are very reliable while mushkin is using sandforce which is slightly less reliable but still acceptable. The samsung is faster than the crucial but it's unlikely that you'd notice. The mushkin is also very fast.
June 12, 2012 7:51:08 PM

If you have an unlimited budget, try a i7-3960X paired with some expensive X79 Mobo and Quad SLI GTX 690's.

If you are getting i5-2500K/i7-2600K, get a Z68 motherboard instead, Z77 is meant to be paired with newer Ivy Bridge processors like the i5-3570K/i7-3770K.


For the price of a 560Ti, you could get a Radeon 7850, which is at about the level of a GTX 580.

Be sure to get a decent PSU!
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June 12, 2012 8:12:08 PM

During last 2 hours I've been reading forum and found out that 7850 is quite good card and it's only 250$ on amazon,what do you think guys ?
June 12, 2012 8:16:21 PM

- i5-2500k
- ASRock MoBo (extreme3) z68 or (extreme4) z77 doesn't matter much.
- 128g SSD (samsung 830)
- PSU mentioned above will do fine with the:
- 7850 2g video card

You'll be sitting pretty and for a *very* reasonable price. Put Win7 and the games you play most on the SSD, it really does make a huge difference.
June 12, 2012 8:18:22 PM

Temuka, I have the MSI 7850. OC'ed to 1050Mhz 100% stable just through MSI afterburner which is included with the card.

That paired with the 2500k can play pretty much anything right now. Best bang for your buck IMO. Enjoy ;) 
June 12, 2012 8:30:31 PM

tiger6k

that's what I'm talking about : )))

how long will this system "last" ? 3-4 years ? :) 
June 12, 2012 8:43:51 PM

1 more question at this stage,are biostar/gigabyte mobo-s good or no ?
June 12, 2012 8:59:46 PM

The 7850 is a very good deal. It can compete with the580, and uses very little power.
June 12, 2012 9:13:12 PM

what about noise of 7850 ? I'm not crazy about high sound,but I would appreciate low sound system (talking about any fans in case)
June 12, 2012 11:38:43 PM

2fast4thetown_down said:
80 plus certified, 520 watt looks good what are the reccomended watts on the card you are getting?

the recommended watts are useless. Just make sure the PSU has enough amps on the 12v rail to run both the cpu and gpu.
12v rail's watts > cpu tdp + gpu tdp. 20% headroom is advisable.
Any modern non-sli/cf system will run on that PSU. It's also a well reviewed and high quality PSU.

If you're getting a 7850, get this one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Unless you want to oc and play with voltages, then get a powercolor one.

For Mobos, Gigabyte is a good company and biostar is a decent budget company. ASRock's extreme3 and 4 boards are better though. Their pro3 and 4 boards are also good if you need something cheaper.

A system with a 7850 + i5 will play games well for at least 3 years if nothing bad happens. Likely it will even last five years but I can't predict what games will be like then. Also, higher than 1920x1080 resolutions will become popular within the next few years. The 7850 will have more difficulty at that resolution but should still perform relatively well.
June 13, 2012 6:36:58 PM

and what is the real difference between LX and LE ?? are there any interesting features that I need or I'm just throwing 40$ on useless features ?
June 13, 2012 6:57:55 PM

LE just has a different audio chipset.
June 13, 2012 7:04:51 PM

fpoon said:
LE just has a different audio chipset.


does that really matter ? I had P35 Neo on 775 socket and it was quite good for me,I'm 100% sure that LE will have much better

+ I have question about GPU,what about EVGA 570 1280mb GDDR5 ? Cause it's the same price range,I'm interested which one is better,570 or 7850 ??
June 13, 2012 7:06:05 PM

better vrm cooling on the LE but that's not too important. The LE is vastly overpriced and the LX is a decent but not spectacular mobo.
June 13, 2012 7:10:09 PM

reason I'm taking Asus is because Virtu MVP,but actually don't know take LE or LX :( 
June 13, 2012 8:51:45 PM

ok,but what about GPU ? I'm completely lost,some say 480,some 570,some 7850,I don't know which one to take :( 
June 13, 2012 8:54:43 PM

Temuka said:
ok,but what about GPU ? I'm completely lost,some say 480,some 570,some 7850,I don't know which one to take :( 


The 480 is the best of these by far that is what I would get either 480 or the 7970
June 13, 2012 8:58:12 PM

2fast4thetown_down said:
The 480 is the best of these by far that is what I would get either 480 or the 7970


I think you comparing sky and earth... while 480 is about 200$,the price for 7970 is about 500$,which is like 2,5 times more expensive than 480 :non: 

I need something in range of 200-270$ :) 
June 13, 2012 10:34:20 PM

the 480 is an incredibly hot, loud and power hungry gpu that performs under a 580. The 7850 gives around the same performance (or a lot more if you oc) and uses far less power.

The 480 is not a common recommendation on this site for that reason. Grab a 7850, 7870 or 670. Don't go with old tech unless you have a reason to.
June 13, 2012 10:39:14 PM

slicedtoad said:
the 480 is an incredibly hot, loud and power hungry gpu that performs under a 580. The 7850 gives around the same performance (or a lot more if you oc) and uses far less power.

The 480 is not a common recommendation on this site for that reason. Grab a 7850, 7870 or 670.


I understand,can you say something about this thread ?

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/357473-15-7850-anyt...

or maybe comment there to join discussion ? It will be interesting to listen to both different opinions in 1 thread,thanks in advance :) 
June 13, 2012 11:11:27 PM

aight, I'll join that discussion. Recon-uk is more knowledgeable than me, so I could be wrong.
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