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April 16, 2012 4:50:55 PM

I am planning to buy a new gaming computer which will be my first ever gaming pc. I am practically computer illiterate but i have been reading reviews for a while now on GPUs CPUs and other computer parts so i could understand a little of the things that matter when it comes to gaming performance. I am on a budget of about 1000 and have found two pc that caught my eye in tigerdirect.com. I have read the reviews on both the computers and they are very positive but one (according to the graphics card hierarchy) has a graphics card a couple of lvls higher than the other one. In both the reviews that various customers have written, they mention the games that they play like WoW, starcraft, etc... which are the games that i am interested in playing including the new expansion of starcraft HOTS and the upcoming Diablo 3. So my question is even if the two graphics cards are apart by a couple of lvls in the hierarchy chart, could they play the same games smoothly as the buyers claim they play. Also im going to post all the info on what they include so you all can tell me which one would be the better buy, i hope that i will be able to play games in it for about five years even if later i cant play in ultra or high settings. Thx alot.

*Acer Predator AG3610-UR10P Gaming PC - Intel Core i7-2600 3.40GHz, 8GB DDR3, 2TB HDD, NVIDIA GeForce GT530 Graphics, DVDRW, Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit $999.99 (this one has almost all positive reviews but according to the chart the GPU is below compared to the IBUYPOWER)

*iBUYPOWER Gamer Extreme 950D3 Gaming PC - Intel Core i7-2600 3.40GHz, 8GB DDR3, 1TB HDD, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 550 Ti, DVDRW, Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit $879.99 (this ppl have posted to have had problems with initially but it has the better GPU and its cheaper)

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a b U Graphics card
April 16, 2012 4:56:14 PM

hello
i would pick the first combo, but you should consider building your own computer from ground up. you will save money, get more performance for the money you are spending and you will have a better understanding whats happening inside your computer

if youd like i can make you a newegg list of parts for a 1k gaming rig
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April 16, 2012 5:00:24 PM

alvine said:
hello
i would pick the first combo, but you should consider building your own computer from ground up. you will save money, get more performance for the money you are spending and you will have a better understanding whats happening inside your computer

if youd like i can make you a newegg list of parts for a 1k gaming rig



That would be awsome thx. I was thinking about building my own Computer but after i saw some videos on how to, all the wiring and the socket that they go in and all their names are complicated for me. Then i saw the new egg vids on building a pc and the windows set up seems like a perfect opportunity for me to completly mess it up. If you could still provide me with the list i would really appreciate it. maybe i can tell a bestbuy person if they could build it for me if i have trouble.
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a b U Graphics card
April 16, 2012 5:34:50 PM

$14 SAMSUNG 22X DVD Burner 22X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 8X DVD+R DL 22X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 24X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM SATA Model SH-222BB/BEBE - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$50 Antec Gaming Series One Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$110 SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$240 HIS H785F2G2M Radeon HD 7850 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$65 Antec BP550 Plus 550W Continuous Power ATX12V V2.2 80 PLUS Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$26 Mushkin Enhanced Silverline 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model 996768
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$104 ASRock Z68 PRO3 GEN3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$189 Intel Core i5-2400 Sandy Bridge 3.1GHz (3.4GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 2000 BX80623I52400
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$100 Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Subtotal: $899.91

You can save some money by downgrading the hard drive to something smaller and getting a less powerfull video card

Anyway I will try to be detailed as possible to help you out with building.
First thing you should do when you receive your computer parts is to prepare the computer case. Study how there are holdes where the motherboard will be positioned. You have to install stand offs in these holdes. the motherboard will rest on it and you will use the screws provided with the mobo to secure it. Best way to see in which holes you need to put the stand offs is to gently set the motherboard inside the case and see where the holes align. Don't be worried if all of the holes don't align, cases are made to be compatible with different motherboard sizes.

So after you have figured out the standoffs you should read up on the motherboard's manual. Always refer to it when you are experiencing issues. When you study your computer case there will be cables coming out in the inside from the front. Those are your front panel cables. They are responsible for power on button, reset button, hard drive activity light, cpu activity light, front panel usb ports, headphone and microphone jack.
There will be a diagram in your manual showing you a location of pins on your motherboard (bottom right corner) where you connect those cables to. The usb cable for the front panel will go to the left of the front panel connectors. The audio jack will go to your audio input. Every connector on the motherboard is described in the manual.

So lets say you have figured out the standoffs. You are ready to install the motherboard. First thing you should do is install the processor and ram into the motherboard before screwing it into the case. You will have more room to work with. Ram will only go one way there is a notch in the middle, as for cpu they are keyed meaning they will only go one way in. There will be a notch on either side of the processor..align it with the processor socket. After that install the stock intel heatsink using four push pins. You will hear a pop for every pin pushed in. That's a good sign. After installing the heatsink verify its secured tightly. Connect the fan power connector to a CPU_FAN on the motherboard connector. That will be located the top right of the cpu socket

Lets say you have installed the cpu, ram, put the motherboard in. Now you can connect the front panel cables as I have described above. The next thing should be the power supply. It will go on the bottom, you secure it by screwing it with four screws from the outside of the case.

Now you should install the graphics card, hard drive, optical drive. For video card you will take out two expansion port tabs and align the card's slot with the pcie slot. you should hear a pop..push it down lightly making sure its in there correctly. As for hard drive you install these on the bottom of the front of the case looking at it sideways. Each case has a slightly different mechanism. Look into the case's manual for detailed instructions if you find yourself stuck. Optical drive goes on the top of the case looking at it sideways. I also forgot to add then installing the hard drive and the optical drive you have to take off both sides of the case to secure your devices from both sides with either screws or some mechanism that case provides you.

After that you should work on your cable management. Take your time, cables inside a case obstruct air flow so the better job you do the lower temperatures your computer will be running at. You will have a fat 24 pin cable. that one goes to the motherboard. After that connect the 4+4 pin cpu power cable to the top of the motherboard. Tip: Route these two cables behind the motherboard tray for a nice look these cables are long enough for that. I said 4+4pin beacuse some motherboard will require a 4 pin power connector for the cpu and some will require an 8pin. The connector has two 4 pins not connected with each other so you can use the power supply for either scenario. Your hard drive will require a slim SATA power cable and then a sata data cable (sata data cable will be provided with the motherboard) you will use the same power and data cable to connect your optical drive. The video card will take a single pcie 6 pin power connector.

Now hopefully you have put everything together, double checked the connectors. the computer boots, first go to bios by pressing delete key. in bios under boot order set your optical drive as the first and second should be your hard drive. Pop in the installation disk . It will tell you to press any key to boot from the cd. Follow the on screen instructions, when the computer restarts dont press anything when it will tell you to press any key, the installation will proceed and change resolution in process.

After sucessfully installing windows install drivers that came with your motherboard CD. You have to install the audio card drivers, sata drivers for your hd and optical, LAN drivers for internet


Hope this clears some things out

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April 17, 2012 1:10:34 PM

alvine said:
$14 SAMSUNG 22X DVD Burner 22X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 8X DVD+R DL 22X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 24X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM SATA Model SH-222BB/BEBE - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$50 Antec Gaming Series One Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$110 SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$240 HIS H785F2G2M Radeon HD 7850 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$65 Antec BP550 Plus 550W Continuous Power ATX12V V2.2 80 PLUS Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$26 Mushkin Enhanced Silverline 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model 996768
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$104 ASRock Z68 PRO3 GEN3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$189 Intel Core i5-2400 Sandy Bridge 3.1GHz (3.4GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 2000 BX80623I52400
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$100 Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Subtotal: $899.91

You can save some money by downgrading the hard drive to something smaller and getting a less powerfull video card

Anyway I will try to be detailed as possible to help you out with building.
First thing you should do when you receive your computer parts is to prepare the computer case. Study how there are holdes where the motherboard will be positioned. You have to install stand offs in these holdes. the motherboard will rest on it and you will use the screws provided with the mobo to secure it. Best way to see in which holes you need to put the stand offs is to gently set the motherboard inside the case and see where the holes align. Don't be worried if all of the holes don't align, cases are made to be compatible with different motherboard sizes.

So after you have figured out the standoffs you should read up on the motherboard's manual. Always refer to it when you are experiencing issues. When you study your computer case there will be cables coming out in the inside from the front. Those are your front panel cables. They are responsible for power on button, reset button, hard drive activity light, cpu activity light, front panel usb ports, headphone and microphone jack.
There will be a diagram in your manual showing you a location of pins on your motherboard (bottom right corner) where you connect those cables to. The usb cable for the front panel will go to the left of the front panel connectors. The audio jack will go to your audio input. Every connector on the motherboard is described in the manual.

So lets say you have figured out the standoffs. You are ready to install the motherboard. First thing you should do is install the processor and ram into the motherboard before screwing it into the case. You will have more room to work with. Ram will only go one way there is a notch in the middle, as for cpu they are keyed meaning they will only go one way in. There will be a notch on either side of the processor..align it with the processor socket. After that install the stock intel heatsink using four push pins. You will hear a pop for every pin pushed in. That's a good sign. After installing the heatsink verify its secured tightly. Connect the fan power connector to a CPU_FAN on the motherboard connector. That will be located the top right of the cpu socket

Lets say you have installed the cpu, ram, put the motherboard in. Now you can connect the front panel cables as I have described above. The next thing should be the power supply. It will go on the bottom, you secure it by screwing it with four screws from the outside of the case.

Now you should install the graphics card, hard drive, optical drive. For video card you will take out two expansion port tabs and align the card's slot with the pcie slot. you should hear a pop..push it down lightly making sure its in there correctly. As for hard drive you install these on the bottom of the front of the case looking at it sideways. Each case has a slightly different mechanism. Look into the case's manual for detailed instructions if you find yourself stuck. Optical drive goes on the top of the case looking at it sideways. I also forgot to add then installing the hard drive and the optical drive you have to take off both sides of the case to secure your devices from both sides with either screws or some mechanism that case provides you.

After that you should work on your cable management. Take your time, cables inside a case obstruct air flow so the better job you do the lower temperatures your computer will be running at. You will have a fat 24 pin cable. that one goes to the motherboard. After that connect the 4+4 pin cpu power cable to the top of the motherboard. Tip: Route these two cables behind the motherboard tray for a nice look these cables are long enough for that. I said 4+4pin beacuse some motherboard will require a 4 pin power connector for the cpu and some will require an 8pin. The connector has two 4 pins not connected with each other so you can use the power supply for either scenario. Your hard drive will require a slim SATA power cable and then a sata data cable (sata data cable will be provided with the motherboard) you will use the same power and data cable to connect your optical drive. The video card will take a single pcie 6 pin power connector.

Now hopefully you have put everything together, double checked the connectors. the computer boots, first go to bios by pressing delete key. in bios under boot order set your optical drive as the first and second should be your hard drive. Pop in the installation disk . It will tell you to press any key to boot from the cd. Follow the on screen instructions, when the computer restarts dont press anything when it will tell you to press any key, the installation will proceed and change resolution in process.

After sucessfully installing windows install drivers that came with your motherboard CD. You have to install the audio card drivers, sata drivers for your hd and optical, LAN drivers for internet


Hope this clears some things out






yes thank you very much for the detailed set up process and thank you also for taking your time and looking for some parts for me. I will give it a try and if i have any questions i'll just come to the forums lol.
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