NOT SURE WHAT TO DO..

[Wadeb]

Hi Guys,

First of this forum is a life saver. Ok in a nutshell my PSU and my motherboard have both died.. ( so annoyed!!) and no computer store where i live stocks or even sell the LGA 1366 motherboards anymore (which is understandable). So my predicament is that now that ill have to look at a new cpu and i am unsure on which to get and what LGA socket mobo to get as i currently run SLi.. or well use to lol till all this happened.

My question is what is the difference in gaming when you are running SLI on the LGA 1155 socket compared to the 2011 sockets? From reading around, my understanding is that the 2011 socket boards PCIE's run at 4 x 16x, but the 1155 socket boards if i were to run SLI will only be dual 8x not dual 16x like the 2011??

As for the cpu's i was thinking the 2600k or 2700k, but if i end up going with the 2011 socket I'm unsure which cpu to go to as the unlocked versions are so expensive compared to the unlocked versions.

Any help would be great here guys, the PSU is easy for me as ill just get another Corsair HX 850. So I'm only unsure about the MOBO And CPU side.

 

[jerreddredd]

SLI and PCIe lanes, always a question

for gaming you should jump on the Z77/IVY platform get a MB with 2 x PCIe 3.0 (at 16x/8x8) the 3..0 lanes have more bandwidth than 2.0 lanes

even the new GTX 690/680/670 cards don't saturate PCIe 3.0
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-670-review,3200.html

socket 2011 is much more expensive and really doesn't yield a good bang for the buck in performance gain. unless you just have to try and play METRO with every possible piece of Eyecandy turned on at 2550x 1600.

articles to read:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-geforce-stutter-crossfire,2995.html
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/pcie-geforce-gtx-480-x16-x8-x4,2696.html
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/crossfire-sli-3-way-scaling,2865.html
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/crossfire-sli-scaling,2742.html

 

[Wadeb]

Thanks for your reply, i did read those articles you suggested, and there isn't much difference between dual 8x. So if i was to run GTX 570's in SLI with a MB that had PCIe 3.0 they shouldn't be hindered as much as they would if they were in PCIe 2.0 lanes? Sorry for the question haven't read up on PCIe 3.0, i have only seen the the new Geforce 600 series supports it.

 

[KelvinTy]

"So if i was to run GTX 570's in SLI with a MB that had PCIe 3.0 they shouldn't be hindered as much as they would if they were in PCIe 2.0 lanes?"
No. GTX570 only supports up to PCI-e 2.0, having PCI-e 3.0 makes absolutely no difference besides upgrading path.
Gaming wise, having more than 4 cores yields almost nothing.
If you are going for the 1155 platform, I would definitely suggest purchasing the i5-3570k or i7-3770k for "overclocking". Reason? PCI-E 3.0 compatibility, it provide a "better" upgrade path.

 

[Wadeb]

Just another quick question and i know this is probably stupid lol. But would it be worth going with the lag 2011 socket and getting the i7 3820 cpu? The reason i was asking is that i do want to get about about 2 years out of it.

Kelvin, i was looking at the 3770K and I'm tossing up between the 3820, 3770K and even the 3930k which is a bit of an overkill.. Im actually not that impressed with IB, SB was was much better and its a shame i decided to wait for IB before upgrading

 

[jerreddredd]

Thanks for your reply, i did read those articles you suggested, and there isn't much difference between dual 8x. So if i was to run GTX 570's in SLI with a MB that had PCIe 3.0 they shouldn't be hindered as much as they would if they were in PCIe 2.0 lanes? Sorry for the question haven't read up on PCIe 3.0, i have only seen the the new Geforce 600 series supports it.

you would need PCIe 3.0 GPU's to take advantage of the enhance bandwidth.

even at PCIe 2.0 and 8x8x the loss is minimal ~2%

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/pci-express-scaling-p67-chipset-gaming-performance,2887-7.html

 

[dassix]

Odd question, totally off topic. Are you positive your PSU and MOBO are bad?

 

[jerreddredd]

Just another quick question and i know this is probably stupid lol. But would it be worth going with the lag 2011 socket and getting the i7 3820 cpu? The reason i was asking is that i do want to get about about 2 years out of it.

Kelvin, i was looking at the 3770K and I'm tossing up between the 3820, 3770K and even the 3930k which is a bit of an overkill.. Im actually not that impressed with IB, SB was was much better and its a shame i decided to wait for IB before upgrading

I am more budget conscious so I would go with the 3770K, if I had the $ then the 3930K would be my pick.
Rumor says Ivy is the end of the road for LGA 1155, but I haven't heard any thing about LGA 2011, so that might be a good future path, maybe catch one more CPU cycle. all are plenty fast for gaming.

these run them all off for you:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/core-i7-3930k-3820-test-benchmark,3090.html
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/ivy-bridge-benchmark-core-i7-3770k,3181.html

 

[Wadeb]

Hi dassix, yeah they are.. the motherboard shorted out has melted one of the connectors that comes front he PSU and that plugs into the the MOBO.. so annoyed.. and even with a surge board... but the surge board was 5 years old so yeah.. really annoyed..

I was thinking that as well jerred, money isn't really an issue. I was thinking of the 3820 for just a year then upgrade next year.. but i couldn't justify that when for an extra 300 bucks i could get the 3930K and have it last longer an OC it with say a Corsair H100.

I am trying to find a 1366 socket board still but there so hard to find so i can wait till next year.. but there pretty much extinct lol.. A question related to the PSU, if i next year intend to SLi and water cool with the H100, would a 1050watt PSU be enough. I run a 850 at the moment and it was more than enough to run what i had, but I'm not sure how much the H100 consumes on power?

I have been reading that the IBe aren't due to till next year... mid year. WIll they still be on the 2011 Socket? i can't find anywhere that states it.. cause if thats the case I might just go with the 3820 and hold out for a year and a half or so.. It would be more than to game with and do some photo editing on.

 

[jerreddredd]

Hi Guys,

First of this forum is a life saver. Ok in a nutshell my PSU and my motherboard have both died.. ( so annoyed!!) and no computer store where i live stocks or even sell the LGA 1366 motherboards anymore (which is understandable).

Where do you live, can you mail order? lots of sites on the web still stock LGA 1366.

 

[Wadeb]

I live in brisbane, Australia... Umart, Mwave and Computer alliance don't stock them at all.. which majorly blows.. Unless there is some other places. Newegg had some but they don't ship to Australia and the cost to go through another company to do that ect.. just makes it too expensive for an older generation MB.

I have looked around at what it would cost for a new build and if i do ill probably get the 2011 socket over the 1155, because of greater future upgrade prospects, and the difference in price from going 2011 is only $100 to $150 more. (depending on CPU choice). I was looking at the i7 3820 and some of the stable OCs people are getting on it are amazing!! even though it isn't fully unlocked. As i said before i only do some photo editing, i mainly use the computer for the gaming and word processing, so getting a hexacore cpu is kinda overkill and would cost around $300 bucks..

Sorry if i am rambling and thanks to everyone who has commented so far, i didn't think i would get this many so fast.. Love this forum!!

 

[Wadeb]

Sorry for adding this so shortly.. i just found a place that sells a 1366 board. So i can get it shipped here.. the only one they have left is the:

EVGA X58 FTW3 Motherboard 132-GT-E768-KR
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=138_711_775&products_id=14796

It is $300 but it would be cheaper to do that and get a new PSU to last me till next year then upgrade to the IBe.. The only thing I'm unsure about is how good are the EVGA FTW MBs? Are the PCIe dual 16x.. As the last MB i have was a Rampage III Formula and it supported it as well as many OCing utilities. Will the FTW have pretty much the same as the rampage?

Sorry for the million questions

 

[jerreddredd]

Sorry for adding this so shortly.. i just found a place that sells a 1366 board. So i can get it shipped here.. the only one they have left is the:

EVGA X58 FTW3 Motherboard 132-GT-E768-KR
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=138_711_775&products_id=14796

It is $300 but it would be cheaper to do that and get a new PSU to last me till next year then upgrade to the IBe.. The only thing I'm unsure about is how good are the EVGA FTW MBs? Are the PCIe dual 16x.. As the last MB i have was a Rampage III Formula and it supported it as well as many OCing utilities. Will the FTW have pretty much the same as the rampage?

Sorry for the million questions

according to the spec 2 GPU's will run in x16 x16 in the first 2 PCIe slots. the 3rd slot is x8 only. the reviews on newegg for the TR version seem to be positive. TR = 3year warranty, KR= 2year warranty and the CPU socket is said to be from a different manufacturers between the KR and TR boards.

not sure about the OC, but the FTW series is usually for OCing.

 

[Wadeb]

Thanks Jerred for that and thanks to everyone as well who helped and answered my questions. I thought that was the case, just needed to check. This morning as i looked it up again and reedy a few reviews, i have found out that my TT Frio i don't think will fit as my CPU heatsink on this board because of the Heatsink surrounding the CPU on the NB. :S So and by the sounds of it not a lot of the big air coolers fit.

So my choice is to get that board and get another cpu cooler maybe the H100 and just use it in my new build when i that next year.. or do a new build. If i did a new build, i would go with the LGA2011 because of greater future upgrade paths. I just am still tossing up between the i7 3820 or the 3930K.. i suppose if I'm going 2011 i should go hexacore otherwise no real point going LGA2011.