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June 13, 2012 3:06:10 PM

I'm looking to build a day trading computer but don't have much as experience building computers. I only know what I have read in the past week so things such as the compatibility of parts will be a key factor for letting me know. I would like to have 4 monitors max, will most likely be different resolutions and sizes except for 2 maybe 3? I will play a few games on it every once in a while (Guild Wars 2), but I don't really care that much about how well it can play the games, mid-tier graphics are fine as long as it runs smoothly. I have made this build, but would like to make it a bit cheaper. I won't be overclocking ( as I don't know how nor feel like it). Here's the build: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/a2RN

Any suggestions on how to make it cheaper/better would be greatly appreciated.

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a b B Homebuilt system
June 13, 2012 4:10:19 PM

There are some things that you do need to change.
1 the ram is triple channel and you need dual channel either 8gb or 16gb.
2 the video cards will not support four monitors , the 560 in sli will do three max.
3.you can do with a less expensive cpu
4you can do with a less expensive motherboard

I will post a build for you and it will take a few min so , be right back.
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a c 118 B Homebuilt system
June 13, 2012 4:27:16 PM

Oh yea, that system is major overkill for the purpose. Inzone knows what hes doing so I won't steal his thunder on his build. I will say though, that i'm pretty sure you can run two 560s in Non-sli and get 4 monitor support.

Honestly though I'd just get two 6850s and run them non-crossfire, they're cheaper than 560s and still more than enough for your stated purpose.
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a b B Homebuilt system
June 13, 2012 4:54:29 PM

Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000 BX80637I53570K
$234.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

COOLER MASTER Elite 430 RC-430-KWN1 Black Steel / Plastic Computer Case
$49.99 and a $10 rebate makes the final price $39.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus RR-B10-212P-G1 "Heatpipe Direct Contact" Long Life Sleeve 120mm CPU Cooler Compatible Intel Core i5 & Intel Core i7
$29.99 and a $10 rebate makes the final price $19.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

ASUS 24X DVD Burner - Bulk 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM Black SATA Model DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS - OEM
$16.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/western-digital-internal-h... $83.82

SAMSUNG 830 Series MZ-7PC128B/WW 2.5" 128GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
$129.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

If you want to stay with the 64gb then ;

SAMSUNG 830 Series MZ-7PC064B/WW 2.5" 64GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
$84.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CORSAIR Vengeance 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CML16GX3M4A1600C9B
$92.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

ASRock Z77 Extreme4 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
$134.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

XFX Core Edition PRO850W (P1-850S-NLB9) 850W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply
$119.99 and a $25 rebate makes the final price $94.99

This one card will support up to four monitors and you can add a second one later on if you want to.

EVGA 04G-P4-2673-KR GeForce GTX 670 Superclocked+ w/Backplate 4GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
$484.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/microsoft-os-fqc04649 $136.99

The total for this build is $1470.72 after rebatesn and thats with a few changes to your original build.
You now have the correct ram and it's 16gb , you also have double the size SSD at 128gb and the motherboard and cpu are lesser models but are still top quality and will function at or near to what you had chosen.
You can reduce the cost even further if you want to go with 8gb of ram and the 64gb SSD.
The video card will support four monitors and is better than the combined 560's which would only do three monitors anyway. If you want to reduce the video card cost you can go with an AMD card for less and they will support the four monitors.


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a b B Homebuilt system
June 13, 2012 5:00:54 PM

nekulturny said:
Oh yea, that system is major overkill for the purpose. Inzone knows what hes doing so I won't steal his thunder on his build. I will say though, that i'm pretty sure you can run two 560s in Non-sli and get 4 monitor support.

Honestly though I'd just get two 6850s and run them non-crossfire, they're cheaper than 560s and still more than enough for your stated purpose.



Don't worry about stealing thunder , this is an open forum and anyone can post what they want , your posted build would have different parts from mine and then the OP could actually combine the two and choose parts from both. I tend to not go for the cheapest parts because I like quality over price and someone else will post the cheapest prices regardless of quality so then the OP can choose what to do.
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a b B Homebuilt system
June 13, 2012 5:14:16 PM

With that budget you can have a great gaming build , but since you are inclined to lower your budget have a look at this build it should do well, at a lower cost:

Here's a build suggestion in combos to help lower your budget from newegg. Have a look:

Motherboard &HDD: $220- Asrock Z77 Extreme4 & Samsung Spinpoint 1TB

PSU & RAM: $125- Corsair TX650 & Corsair Vengeance 8GB(650 watts PSU is more than enough even if you add another GPU)

CPU & Optical Drive: $226- i5-2500K & Asus

GPU: $400- EVGA GTX 670(Downgrade to a cheaper one if you are not interested in gaming much)

Case: $55- Antec 300 Blackyou can have any other of your choice)

SSD: $100-Mushkin Enhanced Chronos 128 GB

OS: $69- Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit

Total(Excluding Rebates): 1194 USD

Rebates: $20

If you are inclined to further reduce your budget, do mention it by huw much further.

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a b B Homebuilt system
June 13, 2012 5:25:40 PM

The two 560s will run 2 displays each; however, they can't be connected in SLI (AFAIK) and you can't game on all 4 since NVIDIA surround only supports 3 or 6

I would just go for an AMD card that can natively support 4 though, IMHO. Cheaper, and for your use basically the same thing.
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a c 118 B Homebuilt system
June 13, 2012 5:42:35 PM

Alrite.. Here goes:

CPU- i5-3550 $210
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

OR

Honestly Ivy Bridge is hardly an improvement over Sandy Bridge, Ivy costs more and barely manages a 6% average performance improvement. You don't really need a CPU cooler unless you're overclocking. Intel CPUs without the "K" at the end are not overclockable anyhow.

an i5-2400 $190
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Motherboard- ASRock Z77 Extreme4 LGA 1155 -$135
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Case- Corsair 550D- $140, Kind of expensive I know, but to me it looks very "professional", sleek without any fancy LEDs and stuff. I don't know if you're doing your business from home or what, but to me I'd be looking at a case that doesn't look like a kid's riced out Honda Civic for a business system.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Memory- Corsair Vengeance 8GB kit- $54 You really don't need 16GB honestly, take it someone who thought they were being cool and bought that much.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Hard Drive- $110 Seagate Barracuda Green ST2000DL003 2TB 5900
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

The hard drive you're looking at on PC partpicker is from a store I've never heard of, has not a very well designed website and the same model is twice as much from well known stores such as Newegg. I'd be weary of the one you have picked. I have one of these Seagates as my secondary drive, I also boot an Ubuntu partition on it, its not really any slower than my primary 7200RPM drive. Since you're going with an SSD primary I wouldn't be too concerned, but up to you.

SSD- $125 Crucial M4 CT128M4SSD2 2.5" 128GB SATA III
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Honestly 64GB is pretty low, Figure in NTFS format you're going to lose a few gigabytes off that number (maybe 4 or 5?), then Windows7 is going to take up another 15GB, I would only consider a 128GB minimum for a boot drive.

Video card- x2= $270 after mail in rebate SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 6850
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Run them in non Crossfire and they will support 4 monitors.


Optical Drive- $17 ASUS 24X DVD Burner
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Power supply- Corsair TX650v2- $70 after Mail in rebate
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Windows 7- $140
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Total: (unless I missed something) $1271
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a b B Homebuilt system
June 13, 2012 6:33:18 PM

a note on the 6850s: they will support 2, 3, 4, or 6 monitors in crossfire.
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June 13, 2012 6:41:49 PM

It should be noted the multiple monitor use is for trading, showing charts and other miscellaneous programs, not for gaming. I guess my last two questions are how important is the motherboard (price/quality) and since I don't plan on overclocking can I just buy the non-k version of the processors?
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a c 118 B Homebuilt system
June 13, 2012 7:17:22 PM

Yes and if you have absolutely NO desire at all to overclock, get a non K CPU, although the non-K CPUs are not substantially cheaper than K CPUs, and the nice thing about spending the extra bucks on a K CPU at least keeps your options open in case you should ever change your mind. It really is so simple these days to overclock a CPU literally a caveman could do it.

AS to how important motherboard price/quality is. Even not overclocking its still important. The Asrock gen 4 Z77s or Gen 3 Z68s are as bare minimum I would go on such a computer. The quality is always a concern when investing several hundred dollars in a system build. I won't lie to you, I'm a big fan of the Asus Sabertooth boards (like you initially picked), Asus really spared no expense on them, and they come with the best warranty I've seen on mobos (5 years). But the Asrock boards will get the job done for you as well. I wouldn't recommend trash to anyone, at least not knowingly.

I understand the 2 video cards are not for gaming, like I said, the 6850s are slightly weaker and cheaper than the 560s you initially picked, like I said, you could drop down to an even lower price point if you wish. But 270 is not a bad deal at all for the performance 2 6850s will offer you.

ScrewySqrl, thanks for clearing that up, I wasn't 100 percent sure, and I didn't want to chance advising something and being wrong.
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June 13, 2012 8:01:40 PM

Best answer selected by gtinkham.
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a b B Homebuilt system
June 13, 2012 10:39:27 PM

With the mulitple monitors setup you can play a game in Windowed mode and have your trading pages up on other screens and a web page or e-mail on another and the mouse will travel even while the game is running.
By selecting a best answer you must have decided on a build?
The non K versions of the cpu's are just as good as the K version you just can't overclock and you do want a quad core and hyperthreading would be an added bonus. The motherboards are impoertant because everything is connected to it and the higher the cost the more features that are included. It sounded like your were trying to cut your builds price down a bit and that's why I suggested a different and less expensive MB. Asus boards are nice to work with and are user friendly in the bios and since Asrock was owned at one time by Asus thier boards are also very good. The nice thing about these boards is that with the K model cpu the boards have preset overclock settings that all you do is select a setting and the boards bios preset does the rest. It's a foolproof way to get more speed out of the cpu.
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