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I'm looking to upgrade from my rather nice A95 to a dSLR - I've been
looking at the EOS range of DSLR's from Canon, but, as most people are,
I'm a bit constrained on budget.

I've been looking at the actual differences between the 20D body and
the 350D, apart from the massive price hike, what excactly do you get
with a 20D that you dont with a 350D to justify the massive price
difference?

My leaning at the moment is to invest in the cheaper 350D and spend the
balance on a decent set of lenses (18-55 and a 55-200) or even 300.
One can always upgrade the body at a later date, and I'm aware that you
shouldn't compromise on lenses.


Anyone got any input on the 20D vs 350D they could share?

TIA
Cheers
Craig

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In article <1122281012.461711.8410@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"Craig Dunn" <abuse@codenation.net> wrote:

> I'm looking to upgrade from my rather nice A95 to a dSLR - I've been
> looking at the EOS range of DSLR's from Canon, but, as most people are,
> I'm a bit constrained on budget.
>
> I've been looking at the actual differences between the 20D body and
> the 350D, apart from the massive price hike, what excactly do you get
> with a 20D that you dont with a 350D to justify the massive price
> difference?
>
> My leaning at the moment is to invest in the cheaper 350D and spend the
> balance on a decent set of lenses (18-55 and a 55-200) or even 300.
> One can always upgrade the body at a later date, and I'm aware that you
> shouldn't compromise on lenses.
>
> Anyone got any input on the 20D vs 350D they could share?

One thing you have to consider is how each camera feels in your hand.
For me, the 350D is unworkable because the grip on the right side is too
small for my hand; its like holding a little toy. A close friend of mine
has the 350D and I have tried it a few times, and I just don't like it,
but the 20D feels like a real SLR in my hands with a full size grip and
better design of the controls. Try the two cameras in a store and see
how each one feels to you when you hold it.

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"Craig Dunn" <abuse@codenation.net> wrote in message
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>
>
> I'm looking to upgrade from my rather nice A95 to a dSLR - I've been
> looking at the EOS range of DSLR's from Canon, but, as most people are,
> I'm a bit constrained on budget.
>
> I've been looking at the actual differences between the 20D body and
> the 350D, apart from the massive price hike, what excactly do you get
> with a 20D that you dont with a 350D to justify the massive price
> difference?
>
> My leaning at the moment is to invest in the cheaper 350D and spend the
> balance on a decent set of lenses (18-55 and a 55-200) or even 300.
> One can always upgrade the body at a later date, and I'm aware that you
> shouldn't compromise on lenses.
>
>
> Anyone got any input on the 20D vs 350D they could share?
>
> TIA
> Cheers
> Craig
>

350D:
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/sp [...] os350d.asp

20D:
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/sp [...] eos20d.asp

With the 20D, you get (among other things) faster frame rate, larger buffer
ISO 3200, metal body (if that's important to you), flash exposure
compensation (good for the built-in and flashes like the 420EX that don't
have exp. comp.), faster max shutter speed, etc. Read the specs & reviews,
they'll give you a good idea. Don't discount how it feels in your hands as
already pointed out, to me that's an important consideration as well.

Mark

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> they'll give you a good idea. Don't discount how it feels in your hands as
> already pointed out, to me that's an important consideration as well.

But after a week with the 350 it fits well - habbit lads...

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> With the 20D, you get (among other things) faster frame rate, FASTER
> LOCKUPS , larger buffer
> ISO 3200 WITH BANDING PROBLEMS, metal body (if that's important to you),
> flash exposure compensation ( This is really needed as it needs to be
> compensatied allot! ) STILL DOES NOT WORK RIGHT ( good for the built-in
> and flashes like the 420EX that don't , have exp. comp.), faster max
> shutter speed, etc. Read the specs & reviews, they'll give you a good
> idea. Don't discount how it feels in your hands as already pointed out,
> to me that's an important consideration as well.
>
> Mark
>

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Mark B. wrote:
> "Craig Dunn" <abuse@codenation.net> wrote in message
> news:1122281012.461711.8410@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
>>
>>I'm looking to upgrade from my rather nice A95 to a dSLR - I've been
>>looking at the EOS range of DSLR's from Canon, but, as most people are,
>>I'm a bit constrained on budget.
>>
>>I've been looking at the actual differences between the 20D body and
>>the 350D, apart from the massive price hike, what excactly do you get
>>with a 20D that you dont with a 350D to justify the massive price
>>difference?
>>
>>My leaning at the moment is to invest in the cheaper 350D and spend the
>>balance on a decent set of lenses (18-55 and a 55-200) or even 300.
>>One can always upgrade the body at a later date, and I'm aware that you
>>shouldn't compromise on lenses.
>>
>>
>>Anyone got any input on the 20D vs 350D they could share?
>>
>>TIA
>>Cheers
>>Craig
>>
>
>
> 350D:
> http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/sp [...] os350d.asp
>
> 20D:
> http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/sp [...] eos20d.asp
>
> With the 20D, you get (among other things) faster frame rate, larger buffer
> ISO 3200, metal body (if that's important to you), flash exposure
> compensation (good for the built-in and flashes like the 420EX that don't
> have exp. comp.), faster max shutter speed, etc. Read the specs & reviews,
> they'll give you a good idea. Don't discount how it feels in your hands as
> already pointed out, to me that's an important consideration as well.
>
> Mark


Besides what Mark said, the shutter in 20D is sturdier. Otherwise, Rebel
XT is a decent camera that would fit your need. Before I got the 20D, I
had the Rebel and it was good. I still had many nice pictures taken with
that 6MP camera.

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On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 14:23:30 +0200, "Nicolai" <spam2005@nifo.dk>
wrote:

>> they'll give you a good idea. Don't discount how it feels in your hands as
>> already pointed out, to me that's an important consideration as well.
>
>But after a week with the 350 it fits well - habbit lads...
>

Ok, for Hobbits it may be a good size.
If they can get their photography habits to fit the 350D.
Or maybe it's Hobbit lads who really like the 350D?
:-)

--
Bill Funk
replace "g" with "a"
funktionality.blogspot.com

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Craig Dunn wrote:
> I'm looking to upgrade from my rather nice A95 to a dSLR - I've been
> looking at the EOS range of DSLR's from Canon, but, as most people
> are, I'm a bit constrained on budget.
>
> I've been looking at the actual differences between the 20D body and
> the 350D, apart from the massive price hike, what excactly do you
> get
> with a 20D that you dont with a 350D to justify the massive price
> difference?
>
> My leaning at the moment is to invest in the cheaper 350D and spend
> the balance on a decent set of lenses (18-55 and a 55-200) or even
> 300. One can always upgrade the body at a later date, and I'm aware
> that you shouldn't compromise on lenses.
>
>
> Anyone got any input on the 20D vs 350D they could share?
>

I have one of each. In most circumstances there will be no appreciable
difference between the images made with similar parameters.

The telling fact is that I always put my favorite lens on the 20D,
always reach for it first.

I like the RebXT for its output; I dislike it because the controls
require a little more attention/application of effort to achieve the
same result. I don't think the size would be an important determinant
of which to choose. Once the choice is made it's just a matter of
getting used to it. Adding the battery-grip reduces most objections to
inconsiderable.

I bought the RebXT (350D) as a second body/backup to the 20D. It works
just fine in that capacity. When I run up against the slightly more
difficult controls during the heat of a project, I wish I'd saved up
for a couple more months and bought a second 20D. Is the difference in
price worth it? Yes. Will I eventually upgrade to another Canon? Yes.
I reckon the RebXt-350D will tide me over until then.

Sure like the 20D much better, though.

--
Frank ess

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Try:

http://www.bobatkins.com/photograp [...] s_20d.html

Mike Bernstein

"Craig Dunn" <abuse@codenation.net> wrote in message
news:1122281012.461711.8410@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
>
> I'm looking to upgrade from my rather nice A95 to a dSLR - I've been
> looking at the EOS range of DSLR's from Canon, but, as most people are,
> I'm a bit constrained on budget.
>
> I've been looking at the actual differences between the 20D body and
> the 350D, apart from the massive price hike, what excactly do you get
> with a 20D that you dont with a 350D to justify the massive price
> difference?
>
> My leaning at the moment is to invest in the cheaper 350D and spend the
> balance on a decent set of lenses (18-55 and a 55-200) or even 300.
> One can always upgrade the body at a later date, and I'm aware that you
> shouldn't compromise on lenses.
>
>
> Anyone got any input on the 20D vs 350D they could share?
>
> TIA
> Cheers
> Craig
>

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"Craig Dunn" <abuse@codenation.net> wrote in message
news:1122281012.461711.8410@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
>
> I'm looking to upgrade from my rather nice A95 to a dSLR - I've been
> looking at the EOS range of DSLR's from Canon, but, as most people are,
> I'm a bit constrained on budget.
>
> I've been looking at the actual differences between the 20D body and
> the 350D, apart from the massive price hike, what excactly do you get
> with a 20D that you dont with a 350D to justify the massive price
> difference?
>
> My leaning at the moment is to invest in the cheaper 350D and spend the
> balance on a decent set of lenses (18-55 and a 55-200) or even 300.
> One can always upgrade the body at a later date, and I'm aware that you
> shouldn't compromise on lenses.
>
>
> Anyone got any input on the 20D vs 350D they could share?
>
> TIA

If you can afford a new 20D and another $1000-$2000 on glass go for it. Or
buy used cameras (they are depreciating almost as fast as year-old
computers). If you are tight on funds and have access to buy a used 300D for
a good price, go for it and use the extra money on glass. I know nobody
wants to deal with a used camera but you can save so much money when it's
the glass which makes the real difference for more people. If you need a
quicker camera (maybe for sports), then find a 10D, or bite the bullet for
the 20D. That said, if I had the money for a 20D I would probably buy
another used 1D, because I do mostly outdoor sports and ISO is rarely a
problem.

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"Nicolai" <spam2005@nifo.dk> wrote in message
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>> they'll give you a good idea. Don't discount how it feels in your hands
>> as already pointed out, to me that's an important consideration as well.
>
> But after a week with the 350 it fits well - habbit lads...

I'm not surprised. If it's lighter, maybe you just need two fingers on the
grip instead of all four!

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Shawn Hirn wrote:
>
> One thing you have to consider is how each camera feels in your hand.
> For me, the 350D is unworkable because the grip on the right side is too
> small for my hand; its like holding a little toy. A close friend of mine
> has the 350D and I have tried it a few times, and I just don't like it,
> but the 20D feels like a real SLR in my hands with a full size grip and
> better design of the controls. Try the two cameras in a store and see
> how each one feels to you when you hold it.

funny, I don't have a problem with the grip size on my 350D and I have
average sized hands, also could be that I used an OM1 for 30years :)

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It's a personal choice. You may want to read the following comparison at

http://www.bobatkins.com/photograp [...] s_20d.html

Gregor

"Craig Dunn" <abuse@codenation.net> wrote in message
news:1122281012.461711.8410@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
>
> I'm looking to upgrade from my rather nice A95 to a dSLR - I've been
> looking at the EOS range of DSLR's from Canon, but, as most people are,
> I'm a bit constrained on budget.
>
> I've been looking at the actual differences between the 20D body and
> the 350D, apart from the massive price hike, what excactly do you get
> with a 20D that you dont with a 350D to justify the massive price
> difference?
>
> My leaning at the moment is to invest in the cheaper 350D and spend the
> balance on a decent set of lenses (18-55 and a 55-200) or even 300.
> One can always upgrade the body at a later date, and I'm aware that you
> shouldn't compromise on lenses.
>
>
> Anyone got any input on the 20D vs 350D they could share?
>
> TIA
> Cheers
> Craig
>

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Thanks for all the input - I ended up purchasing a Canon 20D+18-55mm
and an additional 75-300mm USM lens + stabalizer and it rocks :)

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In article <srhi-4AA3DA.05440725072005@news.giganews.com>,
srhi@comcast.net says...
> In article <1122281012.461711.8410@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
> "Craig Dunn" <abuse@codenation.net> wrote:
>
> > I'm looking to upgrade from my rather nice A95 to a dSLR - I've been
> > looking at the EOS range of DSLR's from Canon, but, as most people are,
> > I'm a bit constrained on budget.
> >
> > I've been looking at the actual differences between the 20D body and
> > the 350D, apart from the massive price hike, what excactly do you get
> > with a 20D that you dont with a 350D to justify the massive price
> > difference?
> >
> > My leaning at the moment is to invest in the cheaper 350D and spend the
> > balance on a decent set of lenses (18-55 and a 55-200) or even 300.
> > One can always upgrade the body at a later date, and I'm aware that you
> > shouldn't compromise on lenses.
> >
> > Anyone got any input on the 20D vs 350D they could share?
>
> One thing you have to consider is how each camera feels in your hand.
> For me, the 350D is unworkable because the grip on the right side is too
> small for my hand; its like holding a little toy. A close friend of mine
> has the 350D and I have tried it a few times, and I just don't like it,
> but the 20D feels like a real SLR in my hands with a full size grip and
> better design of the controls. Try the two cameras in a store and see
> how each one feels to you when you hold it.
>
I read the announcement for the 350D, decided it was what I had been
waiting for, picked one up in a camera store and immediately rejected it
for the reasons above. I much preferred the feel of my EOS30 film body,
which is similar to the 20D but that was out of budget for me. Several
months later, I played again with the 350D and found that by resting my
index finger across the shutter button it became comfortable (touching
the button with the right side of the index finger rather than the end).
I'm sure this would not work for everybody but it feels good to me now
and I have the bonus of a smaller ligher cheaper package than the 20D.
It seems rugged enough too - I've just returned from a 1500 km bicycle
tour including about 400 km of gravel/rock road (including lots of
washboard). The camera was in a handlebar bag and the road bike has no
suspension so it really bounced around. My old manual Nikons and my
EOS30 were also OK on previous trips.

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In article <E5-dnVMLG7hiI3nfRVn-uw@comcast.com>, mbohntrash54@comcast.net
says...
> With the 20D, you get (among other things) faster frame rate, larger buffer
> ISO 3200, metal body (if that's important to you), flash exposure
> compensation (good for the built-in and flashes like the 420EX that don't
> have exp. comp.), faster max shutter speed, etc. Read the specs & reviews,
> they'll give you a good idea. Don't discount how it feels in your hands as
> already pointed out, to me that's an important consideration as well.
>
> Mark
>
>
350D does have flash exposure comp, hidden a bit down a menu tree.

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