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June 15, 2012 4:45:51 PM

Im looking to get a new gaming setup in these upcoming months. Money is not really a problem but i would like to keep it below $1500. Here is a list of some things Ive seen that really catch my eye so just let me know what you thing i could do without or just find better of.

Newegg wishlist:https://secure.newegg.com/WishList/MySavedWishDetail.as...

Rundown:

CPU: AMD FX-8120 Zambezi 3.1GHz Socket AM3+ 125W Eight-Core ($170)
Motherboard: ASUS Crosshair V Formula AM3+ AMD 990FX ($220)
Memory: G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 ($44)
Hard Drive: Western Digital Caviar Green WD5000AZRX 500GB ($85)
Video Card: XFX Double D HD-695X-CDFC Radeon HD 6950 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 ($260)
Case: Sentey Arvina Extreme Division Tower Case ($100)
Optical Drive: ASUS 24X DVD Burner($19)
Power Supply:SeaSonic M12II 620 Bronze 620W ATX12V V2.3 / EPS 12V V2.91 SLI Ready ($125)
TOTAL: $985.92

Now a few things id like to note to help you judge this setup better:
The case is not particularly important to me, tho i prefer 4 usb drives on the topmost part of the case, i could easily replace it for something cheaper.
As for the video card, I do not plan on using it in conjunction with another so I am not really sure i need the CrossfireX feature. I just plan on displaying it on a 37" LCD 1080P screen ive got.
The hard drive is also not particularly important to me either, I have been playing games on a very limited 60GB drive for the past 5 years from my very first build I made back when i was in high school so I learned to be very conservative with my space, although bigger is better in this case.
a c 276 4 Gaming
June 15, 2012 4:58:24 PM

If your budget is around $1300 I'd ditch that entire thing - the FX-8120 is not a good choice, Sentey makes terrible cases, and you can get a way better video card than the 6950 now.

Try this:

Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 - $59.99
PSU: Corsair Enthusiast Series TX650 V2 - $89.99 ($20.00 MIR)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77-D3H - $119.99
CPU: 3.4GHz Intel Core i5-3570K - $249.99
Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo - $33.99
RAM: 8GB G.Skill Ripjaw 1600MHz 1.5V - $46.99
SSD: 128GB Crucial M4 - $127.99
HD: 2TB Seagate Barracuda Green - $119.99
Optical: Lite On DVD Burner - $17.99
Video Card: EVGA Geforce GTX 670 - $399.99

Total: $1,128.99
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June 15, 2012 5:09:29 PM

g-unit1111 said:
If your budget is around $1300 I'd ditch that entire thing - the FX-8120 is not a good choice, Sentey makes terrible cases, and you can get a way better video card than the 6950 now.

Try this:

Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 - $59.99
PSU: Corsair Enthusiast Series TX650 V2 - $89.99 ($20.00 MIR)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77-D3H - $119.99
CPU: 3.4GHz Intel Core i5-3570K - $249.99
Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo - $33.99
RAM: 8GB G.Skill Ripjaw 1600MHz 1.5V - $46.99
SSD: 128GB Crucial M4 - $127.99
HD: 2TB Seagate Barracuda Green - $119.99
Optical: Lite On DVD Burner - $17.99
Video Card: EVGA Geforce GTX 670 - $399.99

Total: $1,128.99


What exactly do SSD do? Are they essential or can I do without them?
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June 15, 2012 5:11:23 PM

What g-unit ^ said. My only input (as usual) is to ditch the HDD in favor of a 256GB SSD since you've gotten along this far with 60GB - you'll be swimming in storage!
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a c 276 4 Gaming
June 15, 2012 5:32:09 PM

eljonan said:
What exactly do SSD do? Are they essential or can I do without them?


SSD is a hard drive without moving parts - they essentially make booting and loading times much faster. You can do without them but keep in mind that the primary HD is almost *ALWAYS* going to bottleneck a system if you're using a mechanical drive vs. an SSD.

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What g-unit ^ said. My only input (as usual) is to ditch the HDD in favor of a 256GB SSD since you've gotten along this far with 60GB - you'll be swimming in storage!


I still don't get where that will benefit over having the 2TB secondary - you don't want to overload your SSD and you don't want to do anything that's going to drastically going to distort your drives' read / write times. An SSD has a limited number of read / write cycles where mechanical HDs don't. Store your OS and main programs on your SSD, store your games and larger files (movies, music, video files, etc) on your SSD.
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June 15, 2012 5:32:48 PM

SSDs are solid state drives and are essientally extremely fast hard drives with no spinning parts. they completely destroy hard drives in boot times and loading times but they are a bit expensive for large amounts of storage. since you have gotten around a 60gb hard drive for quite sometime, a 128gb ssd that i put into my build will be sufficent. i did not get the 64gb version since it was only 30 bucks more for double the capacity
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a b 4 Gaming
June 15, 2012 5:36:27 PM

With a gaming build the most important part is the video card and then the second is an Intel cpu.

COOLER MASTER CM Storm Series Trooper (SGC-5000-KKN1) Black Steel / Plastic ATX Full Tower Computer Case
$149.99 and a $20 rebate makes the final price $129.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000 BX80637I53570K
$229.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

XIGMATEK Dark Knight II SD1283 Night Hawk Edition CPU Cooler with Stealth Aerospace Industry Thermal conductive ceramic coating ALL intel AMD IVY BRIDGE compatible
$49.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Low Profile Desktop Memory Model CML8GX3M2A1600C9
$54.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

ASUS P8Z77-V LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
$189.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

SeaSonic M12II 650 SS-650AM 650W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Modular Active PFC Semi-modular Power Supply
$119.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

SAMSUNG 830 Series MZ-7PC256B/WW 2.5" 256GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
$274.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

EVGA 02G-P4-2670-KR GeForce GTX 670 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
$399.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

ASUS 24X DVD Burner - Bulk 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM Black SATA Model DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS - OEM
$16.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound - OEM
$11.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

The total for this build comes to $1478.90 which is just below your maximum budget limit. There are a few changes and they are based on your preferences. The hard drive is a 256gb SSD and since you were used to a 60gb and said that you don't put much on a hdd then a single good sized SSD would work for you and if for some reason you end up needing more space you can always add a regular HDD later on. The SSD would be giving you an added boost in overall performance of the Pc.
The crossfire/SLI features are mostly added to a lot of components and you really don't pay for those features so if the power supply and motherboard have those features then they are there and if you didn't want them then you would have to actually get a part that is a lot less in price and not as good in quality.
Since your not going to be going with SLI the a good single video card would be a good idea and that's what the GTX 670 is.
The case has two usb 3.0 and two usb2.0 ports on the top front edge and has enourmous fan capability on the inside for great air flow.
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June 15, 2012 5:49:08 PM

Now ive noticed that most of you are suggesting the
EVGA 02G-P4-2670-KR GeForce GTX 670 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0
but, is there a significant difference between that and say the
EVGA 02G-P3-1568-KR GeForce GTX 560 Ti (Fermi) 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0?
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a c 276 4 Gaming
June 15, 2012 5:59:32 PM

eljonan said:
Now ive noticed that most of you are suggesting the
EVGA 02G-P4-2670-KR GeForce GTX 670 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0
but, is there a significant difference between that and say the
EVGA 02G-P3-1568-KR GeForce GTX 560 Ti (Fermi) 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0?


The 560TI is a generation old now. The 670 is the newest card on the market and is one of the fastest and most energy efficient GPUs that NVIDIA has ever made, read more about it here: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-670-rev...
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a b 4 Gaming
June 15, 2012 6:01:44 PM

Yes there is a big difference and if you were to look at some benchmarks then you would see how much of a difference. The chart below will show you at what level each card is.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-car...

Here are two games that have both cards and you can see the difference in fps and all the settings and resolution are the same for both cards.

http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-670-review/19

http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-670-review/20
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a b 4 Gaming
June 15, 2012 6:07:47 PM

g-unit, check your PMs please :) 
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June 15, 2012 6:26:30 PM

You dont need to go over a 1k to get a great gaming rig.

An i5 cpu,z77 mobo, and gtx 670 can take care of any game out now and in the short term. And you don't need a case over 50 bucks to get a good cool set up.

I'd start with picking out a core of i5,z77, and gtx 670. inzone and g-unit have some good feedback. Stay with Intel this round.
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a c 276 4 Gaming
June 16, 2012 3:38:14 AM

inzone said:
With a gaming build the most important part is the video card and then the second is an Intel cpu.

COOLER MASTER CM Storm Series Trooper (SGC-5000-KKN1) Black Steel / Plastic ATX Full Tower Computer Case
$149.99 and a $20 rebate makes the final price $129.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000 BX80637I53570K
$229.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

XIGMATEK Dark Knight II SD1283 Night Hawk Edition CPU Cooler with Stealth Aerospace Industry Thermal conductive ceramic coating ALL intel AMD IVY BRIDGE compatible
$49.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Low Profile Desktop Memory Model CML8GX3M2A1600C9
$54.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

ASUS P8Z77-V LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
$189.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

SeaSonic M12II 650 SS-650AM 650W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Modular Active PFC Semi-modular Power Supply
$119.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

SAMSUNG 830 Series MZ-7PC256B/WW 2.5" 256GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
$274.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

EVGA 02G-P4-2670-KR GeForce GTX 670 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
$399.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

ASUS 24X DVD Burner - Bulk 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM Black SATA Model DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS - OEM
$16.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound - OEM
$11.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

The total for this build comes to $1478.90 which is just below your maximum budget limit. There are a few changes and they are based on your preferences. The hard drive is a 256gb SSD and since you were used to a 60gb and said that you don't put much on a hdd then a single good sized SSD would work for you and if for some reason you end up needing more space you can always add a regular HDD later on. The SSD would be giving you an added boost in overall performance of the Pc.
The crossfire/SLI features are mostly added to a lot of components and you really don't pay for those features so if the power supply and motherboard have those features then they are there and if you didn't want them then you would have to actually get a part that is a lot less in price and not as good in quality.
Since your not going to be going with SLI the a good single video card would be a good idea and that's what the GTX 670 is.
The case has two usb 3.0 and two usb2.0 ports on the top front edge and has enourmous fan capability on the inside for great air flow.


That's a pretty good build but I hate Xigmatek coolers so much after I had one that fried a motherboard I was using. There's so many better coolers in the price range that that's the last one I'd pick.
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a b 4 Gaming
June 16, 2012 4:00:30 AM

Just a wild guess but I'm tinking you would go with the Evga Supercooler M020?
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a c 276 4 Gaming
June 16, 2012 5:51:07 AM

inzone said:
Just a wild guess but I'm tinking you would go with the Evga Supercooler M020?


I really like this cooler and it gets the job done but in the price range there's tons of great options. I just hate Xigamtek after the horrible experience I had with them. I like these:

- Akasa Venom Voodoo: http://www.frozencpu.com/products/14775/cpu-aka-07/Akas...
- Thermalright True Spirit: http://www.frozencpu.com/products/9403/cpu-tri-62/Therm...
- Scythe Mugen 3-5: http://www.frozencpu.com/products/13396/cpu-scy-35/Scyt...
- Noctua NH-U9B: http://www.frozencpu.com/products/9946/cpu-noc-17/Noctu...
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a b 4 Gaming
June 16, 2012 12:07:30 PM

hyper 212evo is pretty much the best buy
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