When is Canon EOS 30D available?

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Proteus <nospam@nowhere.net> wrote in
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> Anybody know when Canon EOS 30D will be available?

No one who is going to tell you anything will even be able to confirm if
Canon is going to use that name or not.

> I have seen sample
> photos from it on webpages recently (like today when I was checkout
> out noise reduction software), but I can not find it available for
> purchase anywhere on the web (like yahoo shopping).

Sure those weren't from the D30?

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Proteus wrote:

> Anybody know when Canon EOS 30D will be available? I have seen sample photos
> from it on webpages recently (like today when I was checkout out noise
> reduction software), but I can not find it available for purchase anywhere
> on the web (like yahoo shopping).

Looking back to the D30, Canon's consumer DSLR model releases have
been spaced at roughly 16 month intervals.

EOS D30 May 2000
EOS D60 Feb 2002 17 months

EOS 10D Feb 2003
EOS 20D Aug 2004 18 months

EOS 300D Aug 2003
EOS 350D Feb 2005 14 months

The 20D was announced August 2004, so if there is a 30D,
extrapolation of the data above would indicate that it
should be announced approximately 16 months later which is
January 2006..

Given that the major camera manufactureres almost always
announce new models at the spring PMA camera exhibition
in February, we can logically expect the 30d to be
announced at the February 2006 PMA show.

Note that except for the D30, all the above models have
been announced in Feb and Aug.

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"Proteus" <nospam@nowhere.net> wrote in message
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> Anybody know when Canon EOS 30D will be available? I have seen sample
photos
> from it on webpages recently (like today when I was checkout out noise
> reduction software), but I can not find it available for purchase anywhere
> on the web (like yahoo shopping).
>
None that I know of. The 20D will run for a year or two longer (probably).

If you confused it with the D30, it was released 5 years ago and was
discontinued a couple years after that.
-S

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"John A. Stovall" <johnastovall@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 10:54:43 -0500, Proteus <nospam@nowhere.net>
> wrote:
>
>>Eric Gill wrote:
>>
>>..
>>>
>>> Sure those weren't from the D30?
>>
>>
>>oops could have been. why would anybody make a D30 and a 30D ie confusing
>>similar names-- frustrates and confounds idiots like me.
>
> Because Canon has said that will be the name. At this point, the
> "30D" is pure speculation as to the name or even if it will be a 1.6
> crop sensor.
>
Don't worry it will be an APS-C sensor. It is unlikely Canon will make a
bigger sensor, as they are introducing more EF-S lenses.

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"Darrell" <spam@this.eh> wrote in
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>
> "John A. Stovall" <johnastovall@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:m2pce19eeg03s7k44lgn5cbik8rrls60sh@4ax.com...
>> On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 10:54:43 -0500, Proteus <nospam@nowhere.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>Eric Gill wrote:
>>>
>>>..
>>>>
>>>> Sure those weren't from the D30?
>>>
>>>
>>>oops could have been. why would anybody make a D30 and a 30D ie
>>>confusing similar names-- frustrates and confounds idiots like me.
>>
>> Because Canon has said that will be the name. At this point, the
>> "30D" is pure speculation as to the name or even if it will be a 1.6
>> crop sensor.
>>
> Don't worry it will be an APS-C sensor. It is unlikely Canon will make
> a bigger sensor, as they are introducing more EF-S lenses.

Yep. Last I checked, Canon really like the three-tiered system (1.6, 1.3,
and Full Frame bodies) from a marketing standpoint, and their success seems
to be bearing the idea out.

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Proteus wrote:
> Eric Gill wrote:
>
> ..
>
>>Sure those weren't from the D30?
>
>
>
> oops could have been. why would anybody make a D30 and a 30D ie confusing
> similar names-- frustrates and confounds idiots like me.

Oh yeah? Try EOS 1D Mk II and EOS 1Ds Mark II.

Gary Eickmeier

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"Proteus" <nospam@nowhere.net> wrote in message
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> Anybody know when Canon EOS 30D will be available? I have seen sample
> photos
> from it on webpages recently (like today when I was checkout out noise
> reduction software), but I can not find it available for purchase anywhere
> on the web (like yahoo shopping).
>

Are you joking?

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"Jim Townsend" <not@real.address> wrote in message
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> Proteus wrote:
>
>> Anybody know when Canon EOS 30D will be available? I have seen sample
>> photos
>> from it on webpages recently (like today when I was checkout out noise
>> reduction software), but I can not find it available for purchase
>> anywhere
>> on the web (like yahoo shopping).
>
> Looking back to the D30, Canon's consumer DSLR model releases have
> been spaced at roughly 16 month intervals.
>
> EOS D30 May 2000
> EOS D60 Feb 2002 17 months
>
> EOS 10D Feb 2003
> EOS 20D Aug 2004 18 months
>
> EOS 300D Aug 2003
> EOS 350D Feb 2005 14 months
>
> The 20D was announced August 2004, so if there is a 30D,
> extrapolation of the data above would indicate that it
> should be announced approximately 16 months later which is
> January 2006..
>
> Given that the major camera manufactureres almost always
> announce new models at the spring PMA camera exhibition
> in February, we can logically expect the 30d to be
> announced at the February 2006 PMA show.
>
> Note that except for the D30, all the above models have
> been announced in Feb and Aug.
>
>
That supposes that the new Canon DSLR is a replacement for the 20D. If it
is to slot into the line between the 20D and the 1D mkII, it could be
announced for PhotoKina, in Aug/Sept, like the 20D was last year.

--
Skip Middleton
http://www.shadowcatcherimagery.com

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"John A. Stovall" <johnastovall@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 23:01:51 GMT, Eric Gill <ericvgill@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>>"Darrell" <spam@this.eh> wrote in
>>news:H9mdneEQApaeBnvfRVn-uQ@rogers.com:
>>
>>>
>>> "John A. Stovall" <johnastovall@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>> news:m2pce19eeg03s7k44lgn5cbik8rrls60sh@4ax.com...
>>>> On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 10:54:43 -0500, Proteus <nospam@nowhere.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Eric Gill wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sure those weren't from the D30?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>oops could have been. why would anybody make a D30 and a 30D ie
>>>>>confusing similar names-- frustrates and confounds idiots like me.
>>>>
>>>> Because Canon has said that will be the name. At this point, the
>>>> "30D" is pure speculation as to the name or even if it will be a 1.6
>>>> crop sensor.
>>>>
>>> Don't worry it will be an APS-C sensor. It is unlikely Canon will make
>>> a bigger sensor, as they are introducing more EF-S lenses.
>>
>>Yep. Last I checked, Canon really like the three-tiered system (1.6, 1.3,
>>and Full Frame bodies) from a marketing standpoint, and their success
>>seems
>>to be bearing the idea out.
>
> No, the 1.3 is going to go way in the 1D bodies.
>
And you know this how??? The 1.3 is only APS-H versus the 1.6 APS-C not that
much bigger. I can see the 1.3 being dropped in favour of a 1.6. Many
photojournalists are buying 20Ds as they can't justify a $5500CDN body to
shoot news. Hell many are still using 1D bodies in this market.

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On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 11:59:05 GMT, John A. Stovall
<johnastovall@earthlink.net> wrote:

>On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 00:16:30 -0400, "Darrell" <spam@this.eh> wrote:
>
>>
>>"John A. Stovall" <johnastovall@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>news:45hde15r6vk60fbg0mrk5e0285839lq2sa@4ax.com...
>>> On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 23:01:51 GMT, Eric Gill <ericvgill@yahoo.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>"Darrell" <spam@this.eh> wrote in
>>>>news:H9mdneEQApaeBnvfRVn-uQ@rogers.com:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "John A. Stovall" <johnastovall@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:m2pce19eeg03s7k44lgn5cbik8rrls60sh@4ax.com...
>>>>>> On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 10:54:43 -0500, Proteus <nospam@nowhere.net>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Eric Gill wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>..
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sure those weren't from the D30?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>oops could have been. why would anybody make a D30 and a 30D ie
>>>>>>>confusing similar names-- frustrates and confounds idiots like me.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Because Canon has said that will be the name. At this point, the
>>>>>> "30D" is pure speculation as to the name or even if it will be a 1.6
>>>>>> crop sensor.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Don't worry it will be an APS-C sensor. It is unlikely Canon will make
>>>>> a bigger sensor, as they are introducing more EF-S lenses.
>>>>
>>>>Yep. Last I checked, Canon really like the three-tiered system (1.6, 1.3,
>>>>and Full Frame bodies) from a marketing standpoint, and their success
>>>>seems
>>>>to be bearing the idea out.
>>>
>>> No, the 1.3 is going to go way in the 1D bodies.
>>>
>>And you know this how??? The 1.3 is only APS-H versus the 1.6 APS-C not that
>>much bigger. I can see the 1.3 being dropped in favour of a 1.6. Many
>>photojournalists are buying 20Ds as they can't justify a $5500CDN body to
>>shoot news. Hell many are still using 1D bodies in this market.
>
>There have been numerous threads on an a statement by a Canon
>Executive that Canon's plans were for one 1D body in the future and it
>would be FF.

Those threads have been on Dpreviews and Fred Miranada forums.


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ASAAR <caught@22.com> wrote in
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> On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 23:00:28 GMT, Eric Gill wrote:
>
>> They should have chosen something with a little more difference, I
>> agree. At least we're not like the poor Pentax users, wondering how
>> to pronounce the name.
>
> Is "Asahi" that difficult to pronounce? <g>

Nah, though I have a great deal of trouble drinking it...

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"Leonard" <user@example.net> wrote in message
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> Darrell wrote:
>
>> And you know this how??? The 1.3 is only APS-H versus the 1.6 APS-C not
>> that much bigger.
>
> Over 60% more area. Quite a bit really.
>
> - Len

28.2mm vs. 22.2mm, It's only 22.6% in linear measure, area doesn't count
when printing. You make a 16x20 not a 320 sq.in (206451.2 sq.mm)

The Rebel XT(350D) is only 12.9% larger than the Original Rebel (300D) or
447 pixels on the long dimension which means a little over 1" larger print
(Noritsu 2901 uses 400dpi)

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"Darrell" <spam@this.eh> wrote in news:WaSdnRDhAZiaNHTfRVn-gQ@rogers.com:

> 28.2mm vs. 22.2mm, It's only 22.6% in linear measure, area doesn't count
> when printing. You make a 16x20 not a 320 sq.in (206451.2 sq.mm)

Noise does.

The 400 iso of the 1dMKII is about as noisy as the 100 iso of the 20D - and
that's a very nice bonus for such a "small" difference in sensor size.