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June 16, 2012 9:36:11 PM

I am just about to order the parts for my new (and first) build. I am open to the suggestion of any changes.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Corsair Vengeance C70 Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Asus Sabertooth Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Evga GTX 670 FTW (Two of them)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Corsair AX750 PSU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
i5 3570k CPU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Crucial M4 128 GB SSD Boot Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Corsair Vengeance 16 GB 4x4 2133 MHz
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Corsair H100 CPU Cooler
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Pioneer BD Burner
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Western Digital Caviar Black 1 TB Drive (2 of them)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Corsair Case Fans (Four Fans Total)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
H100 Fans (Two Fans Total)

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June 16, 2012 10:13:02 PM

What will the build be used for? btw that case is a hot box. Read the review done on it on anandtech.
June 16, 2012 10:27:58 PM

Why_Me said:
What will the build be used for? btw that case is a hot box. Read the review done on it on anandtech.

I have read the review and made my choice accordingly. The primary use will be gaming, with secondary uses such as home theatre and music player. Something to be noted is that I will be connecting this computer via HDMI to my Pioneer Elite VSX-52 Home Theatre Receiver, with a 50 inch Panasonic 600 hz 1080p plasma as my monitor. As for the cooling issues, shouldn't six fans be sufficient? After all, the case can only hold a maximum of 7 fans, so I am assuming what I have selected is enough.
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June 16, 2012 10:36:59 PM

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If you possibly could, go with Storm Trooper case for $10 more (http://astore.amazon.com/silveryhat-store-20?node=32). It has a much better interior design and just as nice looking on the outside.

Crucial M4 is a bit more reliable than other SandForce powered SSDs but its speed isn't very impressive, look for Corsair Force or Samsung 830 series, or even the new Vertex 4.

The sabertooth motherboard is great but I did run into some issue of installing the waterblock of the H100 onto the CPU due to its thermal armor. Z77 V-Pro is a much better choice for gaming system :) 
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I've seen pictures of a few builds putting a H100 on a Sabertooth, so though it may be hard to put on, it's not impossible. But, thanks to you, I will switch over to the Vertex 4. It's faster and $5 cheaper than the Crucial M4 :D 
June 16, 2012 10:47:30 PM

MeGustaComputadoresIThink said:
I have read the review and made my choice accordingly. The primary use will be gaming, with secondary uses such as home theatre and music player. Something to be noted is that I will be connecting this computer via HDMI to my Pioneer Elite VSX-52 Home Theatre Receiver, with a 50 inch Panasonic 600 hz 1080p plasma as my monitor. As for the cooling issues, shouldn't six fans be sufficient? After all, the case can only hold a maximum of 7 fans, so I am assuming what I have selected is enough.

As long as all those fans aren't 120mm fans. If they are that case is going to sound like a buzz saw. For the money you suck into that board and psu you could have went with the Asus -V or Asrock extreme 6, and for a psu the XFX 750 modular (manufactured by Seasonic) and then take the savings and purchase a Sandisk 240 GB SSD for just over $200 which has the toggle Nand controller not to mention 16GB of RAM for what you plan this build for is totally over kill.
June 16, 2012 11:11:44 PM

Why_Me said:
As long as all those fans aren't 120mm fans. If they are that case is going to sound like a buzz saw. For the money you suck into that board and psu you could have went with the Asus -V or Asrock extreme 6, and for a psu the XFX 750 modular (manufactured by Seasonic) and then take the savings and purchase a Sandisk 240 GB SSD for just over $200 which has the toggle Nand controller not to mention 16GB of RAM for what you plan this build for is totally over kill.

So other than going with a different case how could I keep the computer cool? The 6 120mm fans would be very loud, you think? Darn. Would the XFX 750 be enough for my system? It is Silver, not Gold rated...I am quite a noob, so I am sorry for my ignorance.

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June 16, 2012 11:50:45 PM
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MeGustaComputadoresIThink said:
So other than going with a different case how could I keep the computer cool? The 6 120mm fans would be very loud, you think? Darn. Would the XFX 750 be enough for my system? It is Silver, not Gold rated...I am quite a noob, so I am sorry for my ignorance.

750w is more than enough to push two of those cards in SLI. As far as Gold, Silver, and Bronze efficiency goes it's a fine line. If you leave your PC on 24/7 you might be lucky enough to save $5 a year tops...but probably less than that.

You might think about going with a single 670 for now seeing how that card maxes every game out there and then some.

200mm side fan with those 140mm front fans. It comes with a built in mult channel fan controller to mange the fan speed along with an LED on/off switch. Larger fans mean lower RPM which = better airflow and lower noise.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $139.99 - $124.99 after mail-in rebate card FREE SHIPPING
Corsair Carbide Series 500R Black Steel structure with molded ABS plastic accent pieces ATX Mid Tower Computer Case

This board down below won a six board shoot out here on Toms in Z77 review. It was the most inexpensive of the boards reviewed other than the Biostar and it cleaned house. There's other online reviews of that board where it came out with flying colors. Like any board make sure you update to the latest bios.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite... $279.98 save: $15.00
ASRock Z77 Extreme6 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
Western Digital Caviar Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

16 GB of RAM is total over kill for your intended uses, but if your looking for flat out speed then this be the RAM for that.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $61.99 FREE SHIPPING
Mushkin Enhanced Blackline 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2133 (PC3 17000) Desktop Memory Model 997015

The H100 is decent enough but it's loud. Look at the Frosty Tech reviews on Intel cpu coolers and it comes close to topping the decibel levels. I would look at the Cooler Master EVO. Decent cooler for the price ($35) and it's quiet.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $34.99
COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 EVO RR-212E-20PK-R2 Continuous Direct Contact 120mm Sleeve CPU Cooler Compatible with latest Intel 2011/1366/1155 and AMD FM1/AM3+

If your looking for temps that the H100 gets but looking for something quiet then this cooler...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $66.00 FREE SHIPPING
Cooler Master TPC 812 RR-T812-24PK-R1 120mm Sleeve with Dual Vertical Vapor Chamber TPC 812 CPU Cooler Compatible with latest Intel 2011/1366/1155 and AMD FM1/AM3+

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $137.99 - $127.99 after mail-in rebate card
XFX PRO750W XXX Edition Semi-Modular 80Plus Silver 750 Watt Power Supply

With the money saved look at this SSD down below with Toggle Nand Controller

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006EKJ8UI/ref=ox_sc_a... $222.54 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
SanDisk Extreme SSD 240GB SATA 6.0 Gb-s 2.5-Inch Solid State Drive- SDSSDX-240G-G25
June 17, 2012 12:12:33 AM

For case fans Gentle Thypoon AP-14 or AP-15 or Noctua NF-P12 120mm very ugly btw are the way to go.But for some good cheap quiet fans COOLER MASTER SickleFlow are the way to go.(They also come with red or blue LEDs):
June 17, 2012 12:21:14 AM

I agree with Why_Me and just to assure you nVidia itself recommend 500W for a single 670. Add 170W for SLI & recommended is 670W.
http://www.nvidia.in/object/geforce-gtx-670-in.html#pdp...


For testing conducted for SLI 670, the resulting system consumption for SLI is 433W of which 293W are attributed to the gpu cards.
http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-670-2-and-3wa...


If you use this psu calculator considering your components, the result is 564W (overclocked processor & used 680x2 to simulate gpu OC:
http://extreme.outervision.com/PSUEngine


All points out to 750W being more than enough.
June 17, 2012 12:55:37 AM
June 17, 2012 12:57:54 AM

MoBo and CPU are great choices, but save $15 and get the combo
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

Skip the FTW and get the Asus 670 DCII Cu TOP

Here's a comparison between the EVGA Superclocked and the Asus TOP

http://www.guru3d.com/article/evga-geforce-gtx-670-sc-r...
EVGA SC Boost Clock is 1046 outta the box....stable at 1200 Mhz
EVGA SC gets 3DMark Score of 8691 outta the box and 9443 OC'd
Idle temp is 29C / load temp is 78C
Noise is 37 dBA Idle / 43 dBA under load

http://www.guru3d.com/article/asus-geforce-gtx-670-dire...
Asus TOP Boost Clock is 1137 outta the box .... stable at 1280 Mhz
Asus gets 3DMark Score of 9340 outta the box and 9839 OC'd
Idle temp is 30C / load temp is 72C
Noise is 37 dBA Idle / 38 dBA under load

That makes the Asus 7% faster outta the box than the EVGA SC, 6C cooler and almost 1/4 as loud under load (every 3 dBA is a doubling of sound level).

EVGA FTW Boost Clock is 1084 outta the box ..... still 5% behind the Asus in performance, still hotter and still noisier.

The AX series is a great PSU..... while more efficient than the HX series, the HX series has better voltage regulation and lower ripple, making it the overclocker's choice between the two. Use the 750 if running moderate OC's on CPU and GPU's, jump to the 850 watter if ya gonna push those GFX cards up past 1150 Mhz......If ya thinking 850 watts is too much, remember it's not the wattage that determines how stable your GPU and CPU OC's are..... stable OC's only come w/ stable voltages and the closer you get to the PSU's power rating, the wider those voltage variations and more ripple you'll see, thus having an impact on your OC.

I'd put it in a Corsair 500R $125 which gets a 9.25 rating over at BMR (HAF-XM gets a 9.1)
http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_conten...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

The M4 simply isn't in the same class as the cheaper Mushkin Chronos Deluxe which has premium toshiba long life toggle mode flash, if faster and is less money.
www.tweaktown.com/reviews/4328/mushkin_chronos_deluxe_1...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Skip the tall, toothy heat sinks which interfere with CPU coolers. I don't see anything on ya apps list that would benefit from RAM running at 2133. In any case, these are the same price and have lower CAS timings (and no toothy heat sinks)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Yeah, I know ya planning on the H100 but with fans on high, it sounds like an airport and beats the comparatively dead silent Phanteks by just 1/4 degree. To my mind, ya gotta give me more than 1/4 degree to introduce water into my $2k PC

For the optical, I'd get this one
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

The WD Blacks are attractive if ya can use the promo code.....but can get 2 TB in a faster drive with the Barracuda XT

http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_conten...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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For a hard drive, the Barracuda XT series offers the best performance available from a 7200 RPM mechanical storage device.


Finally, for the cooler.....look at the sound and thermal numbers ....and the 5 year warranty
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=E...
http://www.vortez.net/articles_pages/phanteks_ph_tc14pe...

If ya don't wanna spend $80, at $50 ya can have the Hyper 212 PWM or the Scythe Mugen 3.
http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_conten...

I wouldn't do anything less on the IB CPU....w/ SB CPU (2500k), the 612's little brother the Hyper 212 would be fine but I find it a bit light for IB if getting up above 4.4 Ghz
June 17, 2012 1:05:20 AM

I actually want this build to have as low profile as possible. When I watch movies, I turn off the lights-and I want as few LEDs on as possible-So that's why I chose some of the components I did. That means I also need it to be silent as possible.
June 17, 2012 1:31:12 AM

MeGustaComputadoresIThink said:
I actually want this build to have as low profile as possible. When I watch movies, I turn off the lights-and I want as few LEDs on as possible-So that's why I chose some of the components I did. That means I also need it to be silent as possible.

And like I posted up above that case has an LED on/off switch so you never have to have the LED's on which is nice. But I would like to hear from Jack Naylor why that Asus board warrants that price. Unless those heat sinks are gold plated I don't see the justification for the price when there's a dozen or so boards out there that do the same thing just as good.
June 17, 2012 1:57:02 AM

Honestly OP i have been building custom rigs for quite sometime i have seen Why_Me in allot of threads he knows what's hes talking about and wouldn't steer you wrong i would go with his build for three reasons price vs performance vs reliable his build is pretty much as solid as it gets it's best bang for buck but at the end of the day it's your choice of course just my 2 cents lol.
June 17, 2012 3:45:28 AM

Why_Me, bigcyco1, and JackNaylorPE, thank you all for your advice. I am currently reconfiguring my parts list, which should come out cheaper/better bang for buck. I will post this list hopefully within the hour. Once again, thank you very much.
June 17, 2012 3:52:30 AM

MeGustaComputadoresIThink said:
Why_Me, bigcyco1, and JackNaylorPE, thank you all for your advice. I am currently reconfiguring my parts list, which should come out cheaper/better bang for buck. I will post this list hopefully within the hour. Once again, thank you very much.
No problem, my pleasure, your very welcome good luck! ;) 
June 17, 2012 5:30:39 AM

ahahaha i just noticed in my one message i said threat instead of thread my bad but i am sure you knew what i meant lol my bad. :pfff:  i edited it anyway. :whistle:  ;) 
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