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June 17, 2012 2:24:17 AM





Approximate Purchase Date: When I Find a good build

Budget Range: 1000-1500

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gameing.

Parts Not Required: keyboard, mouse, monitor, speakers

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: newegg.com

Country: USA

Parts Preferences: Intel, EVGA

Overclocking: No

SLI or Crossfire: No

Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080, 1920x1200)

Additional Comments: Hello I am looking to build a new computer and I come here seeking advice. I have looked at the site and am not totally sure where to go. So I will start with what my current computer is and what I would like to do. I only get a new computer every 5 years or so and part way upgrade my gpu.

My CPU is Intel Core2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz
GPU EVGA(PREF Brand) NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460

What I want to do is get the most for my money who doesn’t right? So I been looking to spend around 1000ish. I am not much into overclocking as I have never done it. I am unsure of what CPU is the best for its money. I like intel and it just don’t know if the new 3rd gen is worth the money. The GPU I am looking at is the 670 NVidia. What I was thinking of doing Also was putting the GTX 460 Into the new computer with the 670 and running the main monitor off of the 670 and the side off the 460. If anyone can suggest a build that would be extremely Helpful thanks



The Lazy Buddha
June 17, 2012 3:00:41 AM

Hi there lazybuddha.

RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Motherboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Over all this will cost $1124 US. This rig would certainly future proofe you for the next 3-5 years. The reason i added the 1000w PSU is that you can use the GTX 670 & your current GTX 460 in SLI mode. The GTX 670 can be used for the graphics and the GTX 460 can be a dedicated PhysX card for the ultimate gaming performnace and quality. Hope i helped you out here.
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June 17, 2012 4:04:55 AM

I have not cought up on cpu's that will be ok processor for about how long?

The Ram do you really need more then 8gb?
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June 17, 2012 5:39:18 AM

Lazybuddha said:
I have not cought up on cpu's that will be ok processor for about how long?

The Ram do you really need more then 8gb?



Now days 4GB ram is becoming the minimum even for non-gamers. Its like back 2006, 2GB was the norm but people wanted 4GB for future proofing. Now the norm is 4GB and people want 8GB for future proofing. And in 3-4 years time 8GB will become the norm. 6GB is suffice for now but if you like to use adobe photoshop or such applications then 8GB is indeed the way to head. But like you said you upgrade 5 years apart so 8GB would be a good choice, certainly for $49. Also upgrading from a Quad to another Quad seems a little overboard to me. I have a Q6600 2.4GHz overclocked to 3.4GHz and have had an excellent increase in performance. I will soon be getting watercooling for my CPU and head upto 4.2GHz wich will leave any core i5 @ 3.2GHz in the dust. To be honest i think you should look into water cooling and doing some overclocking. Then all you have to do is upgrade PSU for your new GPU and old GPU for SLI. Which will save the $ in the long run. Alot of people say the core 2 Quads are dead, Not on my watch they arent. I have been playing BF3 for benchmarking on my system. With the CPU at 2.4GHz i was getting 29FPS Average. With the CPU at 2.8GHz i was getting 42FPS Average. With the CPU at 3.4GHz im getting 58FPS average. So my guess is when its at 4.2GHz il be getting around 65-70FPS. And i only have a GTX 285. If i put your GTX 460 in my system i would probably get around 70-80FPS. So basically i suggest you should not upgrade CPU just yet. And with the GTX 670 along side your GTX 460 with a Q6600 @ 3.2GHz will more than enough for the next two years.

But if you do want to upgrade CPU then it will be ok for atleast 4-5 years. If money is not an issue for you then upgrade.
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June 18, 2012 2:50:30 AM

so the i5-3570K vs the Intel Core i5-2500K
They are the same price so would the newer tech be better, I tried reading the reviews and to be honest it only confused me more.
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June 18, 2012 3:08:00 AM

Lazybuddha said:
so the i5-3570K vs the Intel Core i5-2500K
They are the same price so would the newer tech be better, I tried reading the reviews and to be honest it only confused me more.


Yes. The i5 3570k would give you a good increase from the 2500k.

Here is a motherboard for this CPU. I might add, (It looks nice).

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

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June 18, 2012 3:14:35 AM

Thanks for your help before i read your post i put this together.

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/al1v
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/al1v/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/al1v/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Microcenter)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme6 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($183.49 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($94.99 @ Newegg)
Hard Drive: Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Hard Drive: OCZ Vertex 3 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card ($409.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 600T White Graphite ATX Mid Tower Case ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair 750W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($130.49 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Asus BC-12B1ST/BLK/B/AS Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1458.90
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)

Thats from pcpartpicker for a quick list of items i am looking at, however I have not picked a CPU cooler as I am unsure what the best way to go is.
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June 18, 2012 8:22:03 AM

Lazybuddha said:
Thanks for your help before i read your post i put this together.

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/al1v
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/al1v/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/al1v/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Microcenter)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme6 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($183.49 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($94.99 @ Newegg)
Hard Drive: Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Hard Drive: OCZ Vertex 3 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card ($409.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 600T White Graphite ATX Mid Tower Case ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair 750W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($130.49 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Asus BC-12B1ST/BLK/B/AS Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1458.90
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)

Thats from pcpartpicker for a quick list of items i am looking at, however I have not picked a CPU cooler as I am unsure what the best way to go is.




The best air cooling would be Hyper 212 EVO.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Theres no need for watercooling as this cooler will keeps temps down quite well. One of the best air coolers you will come across i might add. And should even keep cooling down for overclocking in the future. Are you planning on watercooling your GPU's?
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June 18, 2012 1:29:44 PM

No, don't you have to get a special gpu?

I have never done water cooling before and was wondering if i should for the cpu.
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June 18, 2012 2:20:57 PM

Lazybuddha said:
No, don't you have to get a special gpu?

I have never done water cooling before and was wondering if i should for the cpu.



No you do not need a specific GPU. To put it in a simple way, you need a popular GPU. However im not 100% sure if there is a waterblock for GTX 670 as of yet. You would benefit from watercooling CPU, However not by much. Idle temps will be around the same as air cooled. But at full load is when you will notice that the watercooling is doing its job. And load temps are what you want to monitor. I would try not to go above 70c with that CPU. 65c is acceptable at full load. I think the CPU you are looking at comes with a stock cooler?? The 212 EVO will keep idle temps around 35-40c and load around 60-65c. Which is good because no games can stress a CPU to thoughs temps. Your games will probably make temps around 50-55c.

Even though that CPU could reach 75-80c its recommended not to go any higher than 65c, 70 tops. The GPU's on the other hand can get upto 75c which is a safe temp. Iv had my GTX 285 upto 83c with no issues. If you ever get worried about GPU temps just download EVGA Precision X. Which allows you to overclock GPU's, Speed up fans to 100%. You will not need it but it also allows you to set how many frames you want your game to run at and it will auto overclock itself to maintain the specific amount of frames you set. Also you have the option to set fan speed to go faster depending on different temps.

Ex: Mine is set to the following:

if it reaches 50c the fan will boost upto 50%. When it reaches 65c it boosts upto 70%. You can customize these options to your own prefrence.

You will not need CPU watercooling unless you plan to overclock past 3.6GHz.
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June 18, 2012 3:46:45 PM

Hi Lazybuddha!

Posting here as your build is almost exactly what I got 2 weeks ago!

CPU: Intel i5-3570K
GPU: EVGA Nvidia GTX 670 FTW
COOLER: Hyper 212 EVO
PSU: Seasonic X-850W
Mem: Gskill Ares 16GB at 1600
MOBO: Asrock Z77 exterme6
Case: Corsait 600T white
SSD: Crucial m4 256 GB (No need for a HDD for me, everything fits on 256 GB)

As you can see, those are almost exactly the same parts you picked out! (good choices buddy!)

Everything has worked out great for me. You do not need water cooling! I had never overclocked before and after reading a ton of guides got my i5-3570K OCd to 4.5Ghz without problems with the EVO 212. Temps never go above 70C. I did go overkill on the PSU but wanted to make sure the rig could support 670's x 2 in SLI when the time comes. Even then some people would argue 750 watts would be enough for 2 670's but i wanted to make sure.

If you end up buying these parts and have trouble putting stuff together feel free to PM me. The cases fan connectors were a little tricky and it took me a few tries to figure it out.

Good luck with your build!
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June 19, 2012 4:34:00 AM

Good luck with the build. Hope all goes well
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June 19, 2012 7:13:02 AM

Best answer selected by Lazybuddha.
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