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June 18, 2012 12:33:12 AM

Hello, I was wondering if someone would give me advice on my build idea from Cyberpower. I started off with the cheapest configuration setting at http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/system [...] figurator/

Approximate Purchase Date: Possibly tonight...would like to since there is a sale.

Budget Range: 1500-1800

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming (primarily ones with high CPU usage like Paradox titles + newer titles with other high requirements like The Witcher 2)

Parts Not Required: Keyboard and Mouse...(mouse is free with my build)

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: CyberPower, Ibuypower

Overclocking: Yes, I'm just having them do it.

SLI or Crossfire: Maybe. I really want advice on this. Debating 2 Radeon 7850s or one Nvidia 670

Monitor Resolution: 1920x1200

Additional Comments: My main concern is that I want a proper cooling system. I don't want overheating issues.

So yeah, here's my build:

Spoiler
*BASE_PRICE:[+489]

BLUETOOTH:None

CARE1:Ultra Enhanced Packaging Solution - Protect Your Dream System During Transit [+19]

CARE2:Cooler Master Thermal Fusion 400 Extreme Performance CPU - Thermal Compound Optimized for Thermal Dissipation [+10]

CAS:Xion Predator 970 Gaming Series Mid Tower Case w/ 2 External Removable HDD Bays [+2]

CASUPGRADE:None

CD:24X Double Layer Dual Format DVD+-R/+-RW + CD-R/RW Drive (BLACK COLOR)

CD2:None

COOLANT:Standard Coolant

CPU:Intel® Core™ i5-3570K 3.40 GHz 6MB Intel Smart Cache LGA1155 (All Venom OC Certified) [+116]

CS_FAN:Maximum 120MM Case Cooling Fans for your selected case [+9]

ENGRAVING:None

ENGRAVING_MSG:

FA_HDD:Vigor iSURF II Hard Disk Drive Cooling System [+21] (1 x System)

FAN:Corsair Hydro Series H60 High Performance Liquid Cooling System 120MM Radiator & Fan (Dual Standard 120MM Fans (Push-Pull) [+9])

FLASHMEDIA:INTERNAL 12in1 Flash Media Reader/Writer (BLACK COLOR)

FREEBIE_CS:None

FREEBIE_MB:None

GLASSES:None

HDD:* 60 GB OCZ Agility 3 SATA III 6.0Gb/s SSD - 525MB/s Read & 475MB/s Write [+8] (Single Drive)

HDD2:500GB SATA-III 3.0Gb/s 16MB Cache 7200RPM HDD [+79] (Single Drive)

IEEE_CARD:IEEE 1394 CARD AND DRIVER [+19]

IUSB:Built-in USB 2.0 Ports

KEYBOARD:Xtreme Gear (Black Color) Multimedia/Internet USB Keyboard

MB_SRT:None

MEMORY:8GB (4GBx2) DDR3/1600MHz Dual Channel Memory [+51] (Corsair XMS with Heat Spreader)

MONITOR:24" Widescreen 1920x1080 ASUS VS247H-P LCD [+157]

MONITOR2:None

MONITOR3:None

MOTHERBOARD:[CrossFireX/SLI] ASRock Z77 Extreme4 Intel Z77 Chipset DDR3 ATX Mainboard w/ IRST, Lucid Virtu MVP, XFast Technologies, 7.1 HD Audio, GbLAN, 3x PCIe x16 (2 Gen3, 1 Gen2), 2x PCIe x1 & 2 PCI (All Venom OC Certified) [+89]

MOUSE:XtremeGear Optical USB 3 Buttons Gaming Mouse

NETWORK:o nboard Gigabit LAN Network

NOISEREDUCE1:Sound Absorbing Foam on Side, Top And Bottom panels [+29]

NOISEREDUCE2:Anti-Vibration Fan Mounts [+9]

OS:Microsoft® Windows 7 Home Premium [+104] (64-bit Edition)

OVERCLOCK:p ro OC (Performance Overclock 10% or more) [+19]

POWERSUPPLY:700 Watts - Standard Power Supply - SLI/CrossFireX Ready [+36]

RUSH:NO; READY TO SHIP IN 10~15 BUSINESS DAYS

SERVICE:STANDARD WARRANTY: 3-YEAR LIMITED WARRANTY PLUS LIFE-TIME TECHNICAL SUPPORT

SOUND:HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO

SPEAKERS:None

TEMP:None

TUNING:* Intel® Core™ i5-3570K Performance Tuning Protection Plan by Intel [+24]

TVRC:None

USB:None

USBFLASH:None

USBHD:None

USBX:None

VIDEO:NVIDIA GeForce GTX 670 2GB 16X PCIe 3.0 Video Card [+390] (EVGA Superclocked [+0])

VIDEO2:None

VIDEO3:None

WNC:None

_PRICE:( +1689)

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June 18, 2012 12:50:34 AM

Build it yourself for cheaper. Good parts, bad idea unless you don't think you can yourself. It's not hard, it can be intimidating your first time but it's fun, good experience, and gives you a better since of pride in your machine.
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June 18, 2012 12:57:07 AM

stickg1 said:
Build it yourself for cheaper. Good parts, bad idea unless you don't think you can yourself. It's not hard, it can be intimidating your first time but it's fun, good experience, and gives you a better since of pride in your machine.


I don't want to build it myself though--in theory I know it's cheaper, but I think I'd end up breaking the CPU/mobo when installing...which means it would end up being about the same price anyway after I rebuy those two. Plus I like the fact that I can just contact them for warranty replacement things.
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June 18, 2012 12:57:18 AM

Just my opinion. But if it was me i wouldn't go with that Water cool. Air will do just fine even if you OC to 4.3-4.5.. Im using a http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
And it works perfect.. Only 35$..

Also the Hardrive cooler is kinda a waste. I dont think you will really be needing one.. With all that saved either bump up to a bigger SSD or get another 8 gigs ram.. Or just pocket the money saved..
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June 18, 2012 1:11:39 AM

What about this build...it's a tweek of my other one, but it has two GTX 570s instead of the one 670. Is it better for the price? Also, How are the coolent choice and PSU good choices? And what about the case? I've heard Xion aren't that good...but it is the cheapest option with liquid cooling...if there's one in the list that is better, I'd buy it...but I don't care about looks.

Case: Xion Predator 970 Gaming Series Mid Tower Case w/ 2 External Removable HDD Bays [+2]
Internal USB Extension Module: None
Extra Case Fan Upgrade: Maximum 120MM Case Cooling Fans for your selected case [+9]
Noise Reduction Technology: Anti-Vibration Fan Mounts [+9]
CPU: Intel® Core™ i5-3570K 3.40 GHz 6MB Intel Smart Cache LGA1155 (All Venom OC Certified) [+116]
Performance Tuning Protection Plan by Intel: * Intel® Core™ i5-3570K Performance Tuning Protection Plan by Intel [+24]
Venom Boost Fast And Efficient Factory Overclocking: Pro OC (Performance Overclock 10% or more) [+19]

Cooling Fan: Thermaltake Water 2.0 Performer Liquid Cooling System 120MM Radiator [+35] (Dual Standard 120MM Fans (Push-Pull) [+9])
Coolant for Cyberpower Xtreme Hydro Water Cooling Kits: Standard Coolant

Motherboard: [CrossFireX/SLI] ASRock Z77 Extreme4 Intel Z77 Chipset DDR3 ATX Mainboard w/ IRST, Lucid Virtu MVP, XFast Technologies, 7.1 HD Audio, GbLAN, 3x PCIe x16 (2 Gen3, 1 Gen2), 2x PCIe x1 & 2 PCI (All Venom OC Certified) [+89]
Intel Smart Response Technology for Z77: None

Memory: 8GB (4GBx2) DDR3/1600MHz Dual Channel Memory [+51] (Corsair XMS with Heat Spreader)

Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 570 1.2GB 16X PCIe Video Card [+207] (MSI Twin Frozr II OC 750 Mhz Powered by NVIDIA)
Freebies: None
Video Card 2: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 570 1.2GB 16X PCIe Video Card [+256] (MSI Twin Frozr II OC 750 Mhz Powered by
NVIDIA)

Power Supply Upgrade: 1,000 Watts - Thermaltake TR2 RX Modular 80 Plus PSU - PN: TRX-1000M [+169]

Hard Drive: * 60 GB OCZ Agility 3 SATA III 6.0Gb/s SSD - 525MB/s Read & 475MB/s Write [+8] (Single Drive)
Data Hard Drive: 2TB (2TBx1) SATA-III 6.0Gb/s 64MB Cache 7200RPM HDD [+99] (Single Drive)
Optical Drive: Sony 24X Double Layer Dual Format DVD+-R/+-RW + CD-R/RW Drive [+4] (BLACK COLOR)
Sound: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO
LCD Monitor: 24" Widescreen 1920x1080 ASUS VS247H-P LCD [+157]

Wireless 802.11B/G Network Card: None
External Wireless Network Card: None
Wireless 802.11 B/G/N Access Point: None

Power Protection: None
IEEE1394 Card: None
Internal USB Port: Built-in USB 2.0 Ports

Operating System: Microsoft® Windows 7 Home Premium [+104] (64-bit Edition)

Ultra Care Option: Ultra Enhanced Packaging Solution - Protect Your Dream System During Transit [+19]
Cooler Master Thermal Fusion 400 Extreme Performance CPU - Thermal Compound Optimized for Thermal Dissipation [+10]
Professional Wiring for All WIRING Inside The System Chassis - Minimize Cable Exposure, Maximize Airflow in Your System [+19]
Service: STANDARD WARRANTY: 3-YEAR LIMITED WARRANTY PLUS LIFE-TIME TECHNICAL SUPPORT
Rush Service: NO; READY TO SHIP IN 10~15 BUSINESS DAYS

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June 18, 2012 1:21:07 AM

Real water cooling is high maintenance, if you're not the hands on type I would not recommend it. The coolant has to be changed often. Also if you're having them overclock it for you then you don't need such extreme cooling because they won't put much more than a 30% boost on it and an air cooler can handle that. The power supply? Not the best. I would just get 1 gtx670 with a Seasonic, PC power and cooling, or Antec power supply. You wont need much more than 500w with 1 gtx670. I'd rather you get the Corsair H60 if you want "water cooling" It's a closed loop system that requires zero maintenance.
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June 18, 2012 1:29:02 AM

stickg1 said:
Real water cooling is high maintenance, if you're not the hands on type I would not recommend it. The coolant has to be changed often. Also if you're having them overclock it for you then you don't need such extreme cooling because they won't put much more than a 30% boost on it and an air cooler can handle that. The power supply? Not the best. I would just get 1 gtx670 with a Seasonic, PC power and cooling, or Antec power supply. You wont need much more than 500w with 1 gtx670. I'd rather you get the Corsair H60 if you want "water cooling" It's a closed loop system that requires zero maintenance.


Ok thanks for the advice. You'd still suggest the one 670 over two 570s? I wouldn't mind spending the extra cash for them. If I did that though it's saying I need 1000w which would leave me with these options:

1,000 Watts - Azza Titan 80 Plus Bronze Power Supply [-87]
1,000 Watts - Raidmax RX-1000AE 80 Plus Gold Power Supply [-82]
1,000 Watts - Thermaltake TP-1000M ToughPower Modular, 80 Plus Silver Certified, Quad SLI Ready, CrossfireX Ready & Active PFC Power Supply [+55]
1,000 Watts - Thermaltake TR2 RX Modular 80 Plus PSU - PN: TRX-1000M [-20]
1,000 Watts - Cooler Master Silent Pro Gold 80 Plus Power Supply ( 80 Plus Gold)

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June 18, 2012 1:29:37 AM

Here I built you one on there:

Case: Corsair Carbide 300R Mid-Tower Gaming Case w/ front USB 3.0
Laser Engraving: None
Laser Engraving Message:
Freebies: None
Internal USB Extension Module: None
Neon Light Upgrade: None
Extra Case Fan Upgrade: Maximum 120MM Case Cooling Fans for your selected case [+9]
Noise Reduction Technology: None
CPU: Intel® Core™ i5-3570K 3.40 GHz 6MB Intel Smart Cache LGA1155 (All Venom OC Certified) [+116]
Performance Tuning Protection Plan by Intel: * Intel® Core™ i5-3570K Performance Tuning Protection Plan by Intel [+24]
Venom Boost Fast And Efficient Factory Overclocking: No Overclocking
Cooling Fan: Corsair Hydro Series H60 High Performance Liquid Cooling System 120MM Radiator & Fan (Dual Standard 120MM Fans (Push-Pull) [+9])
Coolant for Cyberpower Xtreme Hydro Water Cooling Kits: Standard Coolant
Motherboard: [CrossFireX/SLI] ASRock Z77 Extreme4 Intel Z77 Chipset DDR3 ATX Mainboard w/ IRST, Lucid Virtu MVP, XFast Technologies, 7.1 HD Audio, GbLAN, 3x PCIe x16 (2 Gen3, 1 Gen2), 2x PCIe x1 & 2 PCI (All Venom OC Certified) [+89]
Freebies: None
Intel Smart Response Technology for Z77: * 60 GB OCZ Agility 3 SATA III 6.0Gb/s SSD - 525MB/s Read & 475MB/s Write [+85] (Single Drive)
Memory: 8GB (2GBx4) DDR3/1600MHz Dual Channel Memory [+48] (Corsair or Major Brand)
Video Card: AMD Radeon HD 7970 3GB 16X PCIe 3.0 Video Card [+423] (Major Brand Powered by AMD)
Freebies: FREE AMD 3 for Three Game Bundle Coupon
Video Card 2: None
Video Card 3: None
Power Supply Upgrade: * 650 Watts - Corsair CMPSU-650TXV2 80 Plus Power Supply - Quad SLI Ready [+99]
Hard Drive: 500GB SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 16MB Cache 7200RPM HDD (Single Hard Drive)
Data Hard Drive: None
Hard Drive Cooling Fan: None
External Hard Drive (USB3.0/2.0/eSATA): None
USB Flash Drive: None
Optical Drive: 24X Double Layer Dual Format DVD+-R/+-RW + CD-R/RW Drive (BLACK COLOR)
Optical Drive 2: None
Sound: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO
3D Vision Glasses: None
LCD Monitor: None
2nd Monitor: None
3rd Monitor: None
Speakers: None
Network: Onboard Gigabit LAN Network
Keyboard: Xtreme Gear (Black Color) Multimedia/Internet USB Keyboard
Mouse: XtremeGear Optical USB 3 Buttons Gaming Mouse
Mouse Pad: None
Gaming Gear: None
Extra Thermal Display: None
Wireless 802.11B/G Network Card: None
External Wireless Network Card: None
Wireless 802.11 B/G/N Access Point: None
Bluetooth: None
Flash Media Reader/Writer: INTERNAL 12in1 Flash Media Reader/Writer (BLACK COLOR)
Video Camera: None
Headset: None
Printer: None
Cable: None
Power Protection: None
IEEE1394 Card: None
Internal USB Port: Built-in USB 2.0 Ports
USB Port: None
Operating System: Microsoft® Windows 7 Home Premium [+104] (64-bit Edition)
Media Center Remote Control & TV Tuner: None
Office Suite: None
Games: None
Ultra Care Option: None

I didn't know if you need monitors mouse keyboard anything like that.

The key things are:
Case: Corsair 300R
CPU: i5-3570k
Mobo: ASROCK Z77 Extreme4
Cooler: Corsair H60 dual fans
PSU: Corsair Enthusiast 650w
GPU: GTX670 (This is what kills me, they're charging you almost $600 for a card that only costs $400, RIP OFF! Get no card and installed one yourself, its so simple!)
SSD: 60GB OCZ Agility 3 (The rest on their list suck compared to this one, and also it only costs $80, not $150 like they sell it for)

Oh yeah and if you must buy a GPU from them I picked the HD7970 because they sell it for $470 and it costs $500 and the GTX670 cost $400 and they sell it for $600. They will give you similar performance.
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June 18, 2012 1:46:06 AM

A New Guy89 said:
Ok thanks for the advice. You'd still suggest the one 670 over two 570s? I wouldn't mind spending the extra cash for them. If I did that though it's saying I need 1000w which would leave me with these options:

1,000 Watts - Azza Titan 80 Plus Bronze Power Supply [-87]
1,000 Watts - Raidmax RX-1000AE 80 Plus Gold Power Supply [-82]
1,000 Watts - Thermaltake TP-1000M ToughPower Modular, 80 Plus Silver Certified, Quad SLI Ready, CrossfireX Ready & Active PFC Power Supply [+55]
1,000 Watts - Thermaltake TR2 RX Modular 80 Plus PSU - PN: TRX-1000M [-20]
1,000 Watts - Cooler Master Silent Pro Gold 80 Plus Power Supply ( 80 Plus Gold)


The only one I would consider is the Thermaltake TP-1000M ToughPower. I would go for two 7850s instead. They use less power and run cooler.
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June 18, 2012 2:03:41 AM

stickg1 said:
The only one I would consider is the Thermaltake TP-1000M ToughPower. I would go for two 7850s instead. They use less power and run cooler.


Alright so I followed your build to a T and now I just have to decide about the GPU issue. Pricing it out it wouldn't be much savings to get the two separately. I'm thinking doing the two 570s since it would actually be about the same price from newegg for them. If I did that, do I need to change the cooling or PSU options you suggested? CyberPower is saying the PSU would be an issue...but I realize they exaggerate that...so yeah. Thanks so much for all the help so far man.
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June 18, 2012 2:13:06 AM

Wait screw that, I looked at the average watt consumption and the 7850s would cost me a lot less in the electric bill per month. So yeah, would the build checkout ok with those?
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June 18, 2012 2:18:08 AM

A New Guy89 said:
Wait screw that, I looked at the average watt consumption and the 7850s would cost me a lot less in the electric bill per month. So yeah, would the build checkout ok with those?


2 7850s is going to be sweet. I would recommend a 650w PSU if you're going to run two of them. You could actually do it with only 500w since they only need 1 PCIe connector but go ahead and get a 650w. Get the Thermaltake ToughPower Grand 650w Gold, it's actually a pretty good PSU. Better than the other junk on there.

A 7850 has similar performance to a 570 and uses half the power. Plus it's newer technology.
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June 18, 2012 2:26:05 AM

Alright, I THINK it's finally done. I have everything I want, just wanna make sure it makes sense. You sure that 650w is enough for it? The website is saying it needs 1000w. So yeah, it's your build w/ the two 7850s.

Product Name: CyberPower H61 Configurator

Case: Corsair Carbide 300R Mid-Tower Gaming Case w/ front USB 3.0
Laser Engraving: None
Laser Engraving Message:
Freebies: None
Internal USB Extension Module: None
Neon Light Upgrade: None
Extra Case Fan Upgrade: Maximum 120MM Case Cooling Fans for your selected case [+9]
Noise Reduction Technology: None
CPU: Intel® Core™ i5-3570K 3.40 GHz 6MB Intel Smart Cache LGA1155 (All Venom OC Certified) [+116]
Performance Tuning Protection Plan by Intel: * Intel® Core™ i5-3570K Performance Tuning Protection Plan by Intel [+24]
Venom Boost Fast And Efficient Factory Overclocking: No Overclocking
Cooling Fan: Corsair Hydro Series H60 High Performance Liquid Cooling System 120MM Radiator & Fan (Dual Standard 120MM Fans (Push-Pull) [+9])
Coolant for Cyberpower Xtreme Hydro Water Cooling Kits: Standard Coolant
Motherboard: [CrossFireX/SLI] ASRock Z77 Extreme4 Intel Z77 Chipset DDR3 ATX Mainboard w/ IRST, Lucid Virtu MVP, XFast Technologies, 7.1 HD Audio, GbLAN, 3x PCIe x16 (2 Gen3, 1 Gen2), 2x PCIe x1 & 2 PCI (All Venom OC Certified) [+89]
Freebies: None
Intel Smart Response Technology for Z77: * 60 GB OCZ Agility 3 SATA III 6.0Gb/s SSD - 525MB/s Read & 475MB/s Write [+85] (Single Drive)
Memory: 8GB (2GBx4) DDR3/1600MHz Dual Channel Memory [+48] (Corsair or Major Brand)
Video Card: AMD Radeon HD 7850 2GB 16X PCIe 3.0 Video Card [+226] (Major Brand Powered by AMD)
Freebies: FREE DiRT Showdown Game Coupon
Video Card 2: AMD Radeon HD 7850 2GB 16X PCIe 3.0 Video Card [+275] (Major Brand Powered by AMD)
Video Card 3: None
Power Supply Upgrade: 650 Watts - Thermaltake Toughpower Grand TPG-650M Gold Modular 80 Plus Power Supply [+157]
Hard Drive: 500GB SATA-III 3.0Gb/s 16MB Cache 7200RPM HDD [+2] (Single Drive)
Data Hard Drive: None
Hard Drive Cooling Fan: None
External Hard Drive (USB3.0/2.0/eSATA): None
USB Flash Drive: None
Optical Drive: Sony 24X Double Layer Dual Format DVD+-R/+-RW + CD-R/RW Drive [+4] (BLACK COLOR)
Optical Drive 2: None
Sound: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO
3D Vision Glasses: None
LCD Monitor: 24" Widescreen 1920x1080 ASUS VS247H-P LCD [+157]
2nd Monitor: None
3rd Monitor: None
Speakers: None
Network: Onboard Gigabit LAN Network
Keyboard: Xtreme Gear (Black Color) Multimedia/Internet USB Keyboard
Mouse: XtremeGear Optical USB 3 Buttons Gaming Mouse
Mouse Pad: None
Gaming Gear: None
Extra Thermal Display: None
Wireless 802.11B/G Network Card: None
External Wireless Network Card: None
Wireless 802.11 B/G/N Access Point: None
Bluetooth: None
Flash Media Reader/Writer: INTERNAL 12in1 Flash Media Reader/Writer (BLACK COLOR)
Video Camera: None
Headset: None
Printer: None
Cable: None
Power Protection: None
IEEE1394 Card: None
Internal USB Port: Built-in USB 2.0 Ports
USB Port: None
Operating System: Microsoft® Windows 7 Home Premium [+104] (64-bit Edition)
Media Center Remote Control & TV Tuner: None
Office Suite: None
Games: None
Ultra Care Option: Ultra Enhanced Packaging Solution - Protect Your Dream System During Transit [+19]
Cooler Master Thermal Fusion 400 Extreme Performance CPU - Thermal Compound Optimized for Thermal Dissipation [+10]
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June 18, 2012 2:52:26 AM

Looks good, that's plenty of power. AMD recommends 500w for one card and 600w for two. They always recommend more than necessary to cover their behind. So 650 is more than enough.
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June 18, 2012 2:54:06 AM

Awesome then, thank you so much. I've been without a good PC for a year since my old Gateway FX laptop died (didn't ask for it...it was a grad present three years ago). It'll be nice to get back to gaming again.
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June 18, 2012 1:55:50 PM

Just be sure to get all branded components from CP.... nothing that says "standard" or "...or Major Brand".

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June 18, 2012 3:47:10 PM

I would also not get the internal reader. get an external one. it takes up a bay and they dont give you the bay cover.
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June 19, 2012 5:54:26 PM

I built a similar system for around the same price from them. I was happy with it though my HD7970 had to be RMA'd (on the bright side they RMA'd no questions asked) and my h60 corsair liquid cooling has the known grinding issue. This makes me almost recommend getting a different cooler just in case you get unlucky.

You can get 120gb SSD corsair/kingston for no increase in price versus the intel Smart Response Technology 60gb (i dont know if this technology does anything special) so thats something to keep in mind. If you install anyone than 2 games (steam game/bf3 for example) youre going to run out of space on the 60gb right away.

You might want the corsair 400r case vs the 300r case to give you a little extra room + the LED fans. has a different look if you prefer it also

good luck, the certain system looks good anyway

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