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June 18, 2012 5:21:17 AM

Okay. I have a $3000 budget. The computer is for ultimate gaming and longitivity. At first I was thinking of going a bulldozer with a GeForce 690 but I realized it could bottleneck the graphics card. What I'm thinking of getting right now is:
CPU: either i7 3770k or i7 2700k ( can you explain the advantages and disadvantages of both ($360 or $320)
Graphics card: well I was looking at the GeForce 690 or maybe waiting and seeing how good the 680 classified hydro copper ($1000 or if I get the 680 classified hydro copper I estimate $800
Hard drive: swag ate barricuda 1 tb 6gb/s ($100)
A 60 gb ssd ($75)
Monitor: I don't know whether to get a 23" or 27". Is it Better to get a 27"? ($170 or $270)
Case: corsair 650d ($180)
Motherboard: well does the p8Z77 premium work with i7 2700k cpu? ($440)
Memory: g skill rip jaws x 2x4gb ($75)
Psu: ocz zx series 1000w fully modular ($189)
Liquid CPU cooler: corsair h100 ($115)
Optical drive: Sony 48x DVD ($17)
Its total cost would be if I did the math right: $2585-$2720
Would this be a good computer for the price? I added $100 to the ending price to include windows 7 64 bit oem.
Should I go GeForce 690 or GeForce 680?
I'm planning on over locking as much as I can. Is there any ways I can get better overclocking performance?
Also would it be worth it t
a b 4 Gaming
June 18, 2012 7:26:00 AM

CPU: Unless your editing, no need for an i7 or its hyper-threading. An i5-3570k will do.

For Graphics cards, the current kingpin is the GTX670, which can overclock above GTX680 performance (stock), which is significant given its about $100 cheaper. You will want one (if not two!) of these. dual GTX670 in SLI is a force to be reckoned with.

HDD: Never heard of Swag Ate before, but Seagate Barracuda's are pretty good.Make sure you get the 64MB cache version. Capacity can be decided by you.

SSD: You will want better, especially if your dropping this much cash into it. 128GB OCZ Vertex 4 at minimum.

Case: This is largely personal preference this high up the market. I prefer the HAF-X, but the 650D will do fine. Its largely aesthetics that separate them.

Motherboard: The p8-Z77 premium is a good board, stick with that.

Memory: Unless your editing, 8GB is all you will need and you picked a good kit.

PSU: 1000W is overkill, 750W is all you would need for a dual card system. Look for Corsair or Seasonic PSU's. as OCZ hasnt the greatest reputation in Power Supply's.

CPU Cooler: I would say overkill, but it will be fine.

Optical: That will do fine

Get the GTX670, it is the pinnacle of price to performance in its tier.
For good overclocking, make sure you have good cooling on the CPU (Covered, make sure you have a push/pull through the heatsink) and with the case in general (should be fine, can always add more fans to the case). For the GPU, pick the Gigabyte or ASUS DirectCU model, they have amazing cooling.

June 18, 2012 8:26:17 AM


You might as well go for dual 680 since you could afford it.
And you might as well wait for 3770k to be restocked.
But like what the guy said, unless you do 3D rendering or video editing of those sort, you should get i5 3570k at the most.
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June 18, 2012 12:27:01 PM

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June 18, 2012 4:34:22 PM

unfitstew said:
Okay. I have a $3000 budget. The computer is for ultimate gaming and longitivity. At first I was thinking of going a bulldozer with a GeForce 690 but I realized it could bottleneck the graphics card. What I'm thinking of getting right now is:
CPU: either i7 3770k or i7 2700k ( can you explain the advantages and disadvantages of both ($360 or $320)
Graphics card: well I was looking at the GeForce 690 or maybe waiting and seeing how good the 680 classified hydro copper ($1000 or if I get the 680 classified hydro copper I estimate $800
Hard drive: swag ate barricuda 1 tb 6gb/s ($100)
A 60 gb ssd ($75)
Monitor: I don't know whether to get a 23" or 27". Is it Better to get a 27"? ($170 or $270)
Case: corsair 650d ($180)
Motherboard: well does the p8Z77 premium work with i7 2700k cpu? ($440)
Memory: g skill rip jaws x 2x4gb ($75)
Psu: ocz zx series 1000w fully modular ($189)
Liquid CPU cooler: corsair h100 ($115)
Optical drive: Sony 48x DVD ($17)
Its total cost would be if I did the math right: $2585-$2720
Would this be a good computer for the price? I added $100 to the ending price to include windows 7 64 bit oem.
Should I go GeForce 690 or GeForce 680?
I'm planning on over locking as much as I can. Is there any ways I can get better overclocking performance?
Also would it be worth it t

The first thing you want to do is pick a great monitor and build around it. I tend to stay away from 1080p monitors over 23" because you start seeing individual pixels because of how spread out they have to be at that resolution.

Dell U2412M- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... x3=310$ This is a fantastic IPS monitor that has very little input lag time. 3 of those monitors for NVIDIA Surround. You will be playing at a total resolution of 5760x1200. BTW the 2 670's will be plenty for this resolution.

Intel i5 3570k- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... 230$ Games only use 2-4 cores these days and it will be a while until they start to use 4+ cores

EVGA Z77 FTW- http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-Intel-Extended-Motherboard-1... 230$

G.Skill 8gb 1600mhz- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... 47$

Crucial M4 256gb SSD- http://www.amazon.com/Crucial-2-5-Inch-Solid-State-CT25... 180$

WD 1tb Caviar Black HDD- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... 100$

ASUS GTX 670 2gb- http://www.amazon.com/ASUS-GeForce-GTX-670-DC2-2GD5-GTX... x2=840$

Corsair 600t- http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Graphite-Mid-Tower-Comput... 140$

Lite-On 24x DVD Burner- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... 22$

Cooler Master Hyper 612- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... 50$

Rosewill Capstone 750w- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... 110$

Total=2979$ (including 100$ OS)
a c 247 4 Gaming
June 18, 2012 5:03:48 PM

Here's what I would get if I had a $3K budget - yeah yeah say what you want about X79, but if you're going to overclock it will be a better choice than the i7-3770K will.

Try this:

Case: NZXT Switch 810 - $169.99
PSU: PC Power & Cooling Silencer MKII 950W - $149.99
Motherboard: Asus Sabertooth X79 - $319.99
CPU: 3.2GHz Intel Core i7-3930K - $559.99
Cooler: Triple Fan Swiftech Edge HD - $269.99
RAM: 16GB G.Skill Ripjaw Z 1600MHz 1.5V - $149.99
SSD: 128GB OCZ Vertex 4 - $129.99
HD: 2TB Seagate Barracuda Green - $119.99
Optical: LG Blu Ray Burner - $69.99
Video Card: EVGA Geforce GTX 670 FTW - $419.99
OS: Windows 7 Pro - $139.99
Monitor: ASUS VW246H Glossy Black 24" 2ms(GTG) HDMI Widescreen LCD Monitor - $189.99

Total: $2,689.88

Use the difference for whatever peripherals you want. The liquid cooler will far outperform any closed block, you get dedicated quad channel RAM, and you get an overclocked GTX 670 from one of the best brands on the market. Windows 7 Pro eliminates the 16GB RAM ceiling of Home Premium and allows for backwards compatibility and XP emulation.
June 18, 2012 5:06:48 PM

g-unit1111 said:
Here's what I would get if I had a $3K budget - yeah yeah say what you want about X79, but if you're going to overclock it will be a better choice than the i7-3770K will.

Try this:

Case: NZXT Switch 810 - $169.99
PSU: PC Power & Cooling Silencer MKII 950W - $149.99
Motherboard: Asus Sabertooth X79 - $319.99
CPU: 3.2GHz Intel Core i7-3930K - $559.99
Cooler: Triple Fan Swiftech Edge HD - $269.99
RAM: 16GB G.Skill Ripjaw Z 1600MHz 1.5V - $149.99
SSD: 128GB OCZ Vertex 4 - $129.99
HD: 2TB Seagate Barracuda Green - $119.99
Optical: LG Blu Ray Burner - $69.99
Video Card: EVGA Geforce GTX 670 FTW - $419.99
OS: Windows 7 Pro - $139.99
Monitor: ASUS VW246H Glossy Black 24" 2ms(GTG) HDMI Widescreen LCD Monitor - $189.99

Total: $2,689.88

Use the difference for whatever peripherals you want. The liquid cooler will far outperform any closed block, you get dedicated quad channel RAM, and you get an overclocked GTX 670 from one of the best brands on the market.

That should be good but a say a 3930k instead?
a b 4 Gaming
June 18, 2012 5:08:40 PM

mjmjpfaff said:
The first thing you want to do is pick a great monitor and build around it. I tend to stay away from 1080p monitors over 23" because you start seeing individual pixels because of how spread out they have to be at that resolution.

Dell U2412M- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... x3=310$ This is a fantastic IPS monitor that has very little input lag time. 3 of those monitors for NVIDIA Surround. You will be playing at a total resolution of 5760x1200. BTW the 2 670's will be plenty for this resolution.

Intel i5 3570k- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... 230$ Games only use 2-4 cores these days and it will be a while until they start to use 4+ cores

EVGA Z77 FTW- http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-Intel-Extended-Motherboard-1... 230$

G.Skill 8gb 1600mhz- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... 47$

Crucial M4 256gb SSD- http://www.amazon.com/Crucial-2-5-Inch-Solid-State-CT25... 180$

WD 1tb Caviar Black HDD- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... 100$

ASUS GTX 670 2gb- http://www.amazon.com/ASUS-GeForce-GTX-670-DC2-2GD5-GTX... x2=840$

Corsair 600t- http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Graphite-Mid-Tower-Comput... 140$

Lite-On 24x DVD Burner- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... 22$

Cooler Master Hyper 612- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... 50$

Rosewill Capstone 750w- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... 110$

Total=2979$ (including 100$ OS)

I'd get this.
a c 247 4 Gaming
June 18, 2012 5:11:09 PM

melikepie said:
That should be good but a say a 3930k instead?


That is a 3930K - it's a six core CPU vs. the four core i7-3770K. Plus the i7-3930K and X79 will handle large amounts of RAM so if you intend to use your CPU for other purposes it's a better choice in the long run.

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You might as well go for dual 680 since you could afford it.
And you might as well wait for 3770k to be restocked.
But like what the guy said, unless you do 3D rendering or video editing of those sort, you should get i5 3570k at the most.


That's a decent build but the extra thermal compound isn't needed (pre applied on the H80), the liquid cooler isn't the best choice, and those RAM modules don't match.

azeem40 said:
I'd get this.


Actually I wouldn't because the EVGA Z77 FTW won't fit in the Graphite 600T - I wanted to get that same board until I checked the dimensions and found it wouldn't fit in my case.
June 18, 2012 5:13:33 PM

g-unit1111 said:
That is a 3930K - it's a six core CPU vs. the four core i7-3770K. Plus the i7-3930K and X79 will handle large amounts of RAM so if you intend to use your CPU for other purposes it's a better choice in the long run.

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You might as well go for dual 680 since you could afford it.
And you might as well wait for 3770k to be restocked.
But like what the guy said, unless you do 3D rendering or video editing of those sort, you should get i5 3570k at the most.


That's a decent build but the extra thermal compound isn't needed (pre applied on the H80), the liquid cooler isn't the best choice, and those RAM modules don't match.

The 6 core is a good thing other then slightly more power?
That's like having a free 2500k or 2600k an taking the 2500k beacause you figure you might not always use the hyper threading all the time!
a c 247 4 Gaming
June 18, 2012 5:16:55 PM

melikepie said:
The 6 core is a good thing other then slightly more power?
That's like having a free 2500k or 2600k an taking the 2500k beacause you figure you might not always use the hyper threading all the time!


I'm not sure I understand this.
June 18, 2012 5:19:11 PM

g-unit1111 said:
I'm not sure I understand this.

Why not get the 6 core since it's better and he has the money for it!
My point was like would you take a 100 pounds of sand or gold?
a b 4 Gaming
June 18, 2012 5:19:56 PM


Actually I wouldn't because the EVGA Z77 FTW won't fit in the Graphite 600T - I wanted to get that same board until I checked the dimensions and found it wouldn't fit in my case. said:

Actually I wouldn't because the EVGA Z77 FTW won't fit in the Graphite 600T - I wanted to get that same board until I checked the dimensions and found it wouldn't fit in my case.

Then just change board to an ATX size. :p 
June 18, 2012 5:25:32 PM

Quote:
Actually I wouldn't because the EVGA Z77 FTW won't fit in the Graphite 600T - I wanted to get that same board until I checked the dimensions and found it wouldn't fit in my case.

You are correct I did some quick research and that is true. The Antec Eleven Hundred does fit that board though- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

You may also want to add 2 front intake 120mm fans for the front. Overall it will be cheaper than the 600t as well.
June 18, 2012 5:30:09 PM

melikepie said:
That should be good but a say a 3930k instead?

Yes you can overclock it like G-Unit said but Ivy Bridge is faster clock for clock so a 4.2ghz IB pretty much equals a 4.5ghz SB. Once you get over 4.5ghz the gains are minimal. For a strict gaming build you will not see a big increase in FPS from 2 extra cores since almost all games support only up to 4 cores.
a c 247 4 Gaming
June 18, 2012 5:31:18 PM

mjmjpfaff said:
Quote:
Actually I wouldn't because the EVGA Z77 FTW won't fit in the Graphite 600T - I wanted to get that same board until I checked the dimensions and found it wouldn't fit in my case.

You are correct I did some quick research and that is true. The Antec Eleven Hundred does fit that board though- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

You may also want to add 2 front intake 120mm fans for the front. Overall it will be cheaper than the 600t as well.


The Switch 810 will also fit that board as well, I really wanted to get that board for my system but it wouldn't fit in the 600T which is what I have. If I had the Switch 810 I could fit it easily.
June 18, 2012 5:34:31 PM

melikepie said:
The 6 core is a good thing other then slightly more power?
That's like having a free 2500k or 2600k an taking the 2500k beacause you figure you might not always use the hyper threading all the time!

Well it's not that black and white because the 3930k i5 2500k and 2600k are not the same price. If the OP wants to do heavy video editing and use programs that rely heavily on extra cores and lots of ram get an X79 build but if he is doing gaming mostly get an i5 because +/-5 FPS is not worth the 300$ bump in price over the i5.
June 18, 2012 5:36:02 PM

g-unit1111 said:
The Switch 810 will also fit that board as well, I really wanted to get that board for my system but it wouldn't fit in the 600T which is what I have. If I had the Switch 810 I could fit it easily.

Definitely. The 810 is gigantic but the cheap plastic look (it may not be cheap plastic IDK) is just not my taste.
a c 247 4 Gaming
June 18, 2012 5:37:49 PM

mjmjpfaff said:
Definitely. The 810 is gigantic but the cheap plastic look (it may not be cheap plastic IDK) is just not my taste.


The only case I'd put above it would be the Cosmos II which would be obtainable on a $3K budget but even then it's still ridiculous to try to justify purchasing a $350 case. Maybe the Azza Hurrican 2000 would work: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
June 18, 2012 7:55:01 PM

g-unit1111 said:
The only case I'd put above it would be the Cosmos II which would be obtainable on a $3K budget but even then it's still ridiculous to try to justify purchasing a $350 case. Maybe the Azza Hurrican 2000 would work: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I don't really like the Azza because of the lack of any fan filters unlike the Antec Eleven Hundred which should be called a full tower not a mid tower case. It can fit the EVGA Z77 FTW without it overlapping the CM gromets. Just take a look at this ATX motherboard in the case- http://cdn.overclock.net/2/2b/2b301762_IMG_0336.jpeg
There is over an inch of space between the motherboard and the gromets and the Z77 FTW being 10.38" wide that is well under an inch wider than the standard ATX (9.6") motherboard.

EDIT: Also if you look at some pictures of the EVGA Z77 FTW its holes on the far right are not the furthest right they can be (unlike a standard ATX board) and that is probably because they want it to fit the standard ATX screw positionings so G-Unit I think it will probably fit in your 600T but it will overlap on the furthest right grommets just a bit.
June 18, 2012 8:28:55 PM

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/anvY


I would go with the 7970. I know that it's not as powerful as the 670, but it's no slouch, and you can always try your hand at overclocking it. At $540+ the MSi Lightning probably isn't the value you would get from the 670. But at these price levels, I will go ahead and assume that money isn't an issue. I would choose the 7970 because of the 3Gb of Vram. It might be better in the long run as games require more memory.
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