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June 19, 2012 8:57:39 AM

I am thinking about buying all of the following items for a new build that I am going to do. Do you guys have any suggestions on what I should upgrade, change, better prices, anything suggestive that's in the same price range that would maximize the computer. I will be using the computer to game, mainly only play World of Warcraft and Diablo 3 and to record videos/upload to youtube. I know I'm asking a lot but please, any help would do. Thank you! The links for each item are in the parenthesis bellow the item. The total cost comes out to around 650$ including taxes/shipping/mail-in rebates. Help is appreciated :) 

- RAIDMAX SMILODON Extreme Black ATX-612WEBP 1.0mm SECC Steel ATX Mid Tower Foldout MB Computer Case With 500W Power Supply
($85 w/ 15$ Mail-in Rebate)
( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... )

- HGST Deskstar E7K500 HDS725050KLA360 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Hard Drive -Bare Drive ($50)
( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... )

- ECS A885GM-A2 (V1.1) AM3 AMD 880G SATA 6Gb/s ATX AMD Motherboard
(65$ w/ 20$ Mail-in Rebate)
( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... )

- SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 6870 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card (100314-3L )
( 170$ w/ 10$ Mail-in Rebate)
( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... )

- SONY Black 18X DVD-ROM 48X CD-ROM SATA DVD-ROM Drive Model DDU1681S-0B - OEM
(17$)
( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... )

- G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL9D-16GBXL
(99$)
( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... )

- AMD FX-6100 Zambezi 3.3GHz Socket AM3+ 95W Six-Core Desktop Processor FD6100WMGUSBX
(140$)
( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... )

- APEVIA CF12SL-UGN 120mm Green LED Case Fan
(9$)
( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... )

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June 19, 2012 9:10:51 AM

If you want AMD CPUs, then overclocking is a must for proper CPU performance and an ECS board is generally not the way to go for overclocking.

Raidmax power supplies tend to suck. I don't recommend getting that case and PSU combo at all either.

16GB of RAM is worthless for a gaming computer. Heck, even 4GB is enough if you're not into multitasking during gaming, although I'd recommend a 2x4GB kit. Don't buy 1333MHz unless you have to; get 1600MHz.

I do not recommend getting a 6870, especially for that price. A highly factory overclocked 7770 can meet or beat the 6870 in most games and you can get a 7770 2GB cheaper than that 6870 is. The 7770 is also a slightly superior overclocking card and will improve over time in addition to already being far faster in dual GPU CF than 6870 dual GPU CF due to significantly better CF scaling.

Don't buy that hard drive. It's used and used hard drives are generally not a good idea.

For $650, you could do a lot better. Get a Phenom II x4 of FX-4100 for ~$100, a much cheaper 2x4GB memory kit (G.Skill is a good rand, but Corsair and Crucial are also good RAM brands), a similarly priced but superior motherboard, a cheaper case and PSU combo or a cheaper case and get a PSU, and then use the savings on a better video card. I'll look for some links real quick on what would be better choices.
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June 19, 2012 9:19:53 AM

Thank you for your help! I clearly need it haha this is my first time building a computer so any suggestions are good!
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June 19, 2012 6:50:22 PM

Phenom II x4 955 $100
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
or FX-4100 $110
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
If you want FX, then it wouldn't make much of a difference unless you were comparing a Phenom II x4 9xxT model to the FX-4100. The T models have a Zosma die, meaning that they have six cores but with two of them disabled to make them a quad core part that has above-average overclocking potential for a quad core Phenom II and a chance of being able to unlock two essentially free cores to make it a six core CPU. However, I didn't see such a Phenom II on newegg, so if you want one, then we'd have to go to another site. Phenom II x4 955 versus FX-4100, the two are fairly similar with overclocking considered. The Phenom II would be my recommendation strictly because it has a $10 lower price, but both would do well.

2x4GB RAM kit $43.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Sure, Wintec is not a very well-known brand, but they're still excellent and I'll recommend them.

Radeon 7770 2GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Overclock this card and it'll go farther than the 6870 can. However, it's out of stock right now, so if you can't wait for it to come back in stock, then you'd have to either buy a different model or get a 1GB version.
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June 19, 2012 7:26:53 PM

I'll probably go with the Phenom II x 4 955, it has great reviews and seems like it should do the trick. As for the Radeon 7770 2GB, I can wait, I'm in no rush to build this computer. And I will take your advice on only buying the 2x4GB RAM kit now that I think about it. If you have any other suggestions then feel free to throw them out here, I just need a computer that can handle games on high to ultra settings for a cheaper amount.
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June 20, 2012 1:34:34 AM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
That's a good motherboard there. Affordable, proper CF/SLI support, and otherwise a great all-around value.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
That's an open-box version of the exact same board. It's open-box, so it's cheaper. I don't know which way you would prefer to go if you get this motherboard.

I'll look for good PSUs with a minimal price tag and see what cases would be ideal. Generally, it's bet to stick with Antec, Corsair, or Seasonic as your brand because these three tend to be built much better than most other models fro other manufacturers. Sometimes, other companies can have similarly high quality models, but these are generally very poorly known companies that although they may or may not deserve more attention, are often much newer, only did a very god job recently, or didn't even make their good product that they sell, but simply re-branded it from another company.

For example, I've used some PSUs from a few lesser-known companies and some have blown me away in their qualtiy at their price, but some others have blown me away by their quality being incredibly poor. As a more specific example, azza is one company that I've had good experience with me, but Cooler Master is one company that I've had routinely poor experience with. Then there are some such as OCZ that I've had both good and bad experiences with, but OCZ, like so many others, just re-brands thier PSUs. Another such company that can have great PSUs (but usually just has decent or somewhat above/ average models) is Rosewill and they are a company that I like for having at least decent products in a wide variety of markets.

Despite all of this, I tend to recommend sticking with Corsair, Antec, or Seasonic to people who aren't feeling particularly adventurous with their computer. Personally, I greatly enjoy experimenting with my machines, but I think that the fact that some power supplies that are bad are simply just unreliable PSUs and I swear that I don't mean to seem condescending or such in any way by saying this, I think that this fact can make using PSUs that aren't tried-and-true very poor experiences with users who aren't very accustomed to such situations happening and know how to deal with them well.

For example, I already have several spare PSUs and if I don't trust a model, I'll go a little crazy on surge protection and such to ensure that if it dies, it doesn't take the rest of my hardware with it. If I really don't trust a unit, I'll even keep it separated from the rest of the computer due to ths small but still worrisome chance of a bad unit exploding. I'm not saying that you must have problems if you don't stick to a better-known and reputable manufacturer, but I am saying that the chances of such problems are far more likely.

I've never had a PSU explode (at least not that I can remember), but I've had a few units fail and many poor quality PSUs often take other hardware with them when they fail RMAs on a single item aren't fun, I don't want to not let someone know that they have a greater chance of going through this with more than one of their parts (in worst-case scenarios, all of their parts, even external peripherals). Unlike exploding, I've had this happen and although I don't think that experience is necessary to understand how frustrating it can be, I do have experience with it. It's not fun at all. I apologize about this kinda turning into a rant.
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