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June 19, 2012 6:56:32 PM

I am building my first pc in 10 years. So much has changed and I want to make sure the components on this setup are compatible before clicking confirm payment. I will be running Win 7 64 bit and will probably try dual boot with Ubuntu.
I will be upgrading soon to second card in SLI.

MB: BIOSTAR TZ77XE4
CPU: i5-3550
Memory:Corsair CMZ8GX3M1A1600C10 8GB, PC3-12800, DDR3-1600MHz, 240-pin DIMM, 1.5V, CL10, Unbuffered
GPU: Galaxy 56NGH6HS3KXZ GeForce GTX 560 Power: Ultra LSP750 750-Watt Power Supply
HDD: Seagate 1.5TB Serial ATA Hard Drive - 1.5TB, 7200, 64MB, SATA-6G
Case: Cooler Master Storm Scout ATX Mid-Tower Black Case
Optical drive: Sony Optiarc AD7280S-OB SATA
June 19, 2012 7:13:55 PM

That's not even a 560ti. What about a 7850 for 6950. Hope someone else replies since Im not a pro with $200+ GPU's

And those two are better then the 560

6950 uses 200w
and is a little better then the 7850
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June 19, 2012 7:15:08 PM

And you can crossfire these I guess
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June 19, 2012 7:25:02 PM

I am working with a credit at tigerdirect, so my budget is not very flexible. I actually stepped up to that card from a gtx 550. The board is CrossfireX capable, so I will look more closely at that option.
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June 19, 2012 7:54:05 PM

After comparing benchmarks, the difference between 560 and 560 ti seems marginal. Is this an accurate accessment?
Also, I found one card Radeon 6970 1gb card within my budget that exceeds benchmarks of the gtx 560, and the difference is quite a bit. I am skeptical that I may be missing something. I noticed that other 6970s are 2gb and this is 1gb. The specific card is: HIS H679F1GD Radeon HD 6790
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June 19, 2012 8:00:28 PM

Yes, the 560ti is roughly only about 5% faster than the 560. As for the radeon card, you just mixed up some numbers. The one you found is actually a 6790, not a 6970. :) 
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June 19, 2012 8:03:28 PM

And for $145, the 560 you originally chose is one of the best bangs for the buck you can get in GPUs today, along with the Radeon 6870, if found at a similar price.
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June 19, 2012 8:07:26 PM

Thanks for pointing that out, Glacyus. I have been staring at this screen for too long today, lost my focus. So, it seems that gtx 560 is the best value\performance in my price range.
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June 19, 2012 8:16:11 PM

BTW a budget would help a lot
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June 19, 2012 8:31:58 PM

The budget part is complicated. It is an employee purchase and to get pricing I have to e-mail my contact each pn and wait for a response. I am trying to limit the requests so that I don't wear my welcome. I have a $942 credit from a laptop return. The listed components come to $938.

Of the things uvb076 brought up, my greatest concern would be the memory. I am looking for a good 1 stick 8gb option.
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June 19, 2012 8:37:02 PM

BTW, my cost includes Win 7 Home.
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June 19, 2012 8:45:51 PM

1-stick 8GB will perform worse than dual channel. It would be better to use 2x4GB sticks. Generally 8GB sticks have looser timings, and the CPUs run dual channel memory.
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June 19, 2012 8:48:18 PM

Go for as many sticks of ram as your mobo can take. As well, do not buy unbuffered ram.
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June 19, 2012 8:59:55 PM

Lower price, better performance. Can't complain. I was going to upgrade to 32gb eventually, but that is probably overkill for this machine. I will probably use the extra few bucks to get a keyboard, lol. I am stuck on the aesthetics of this case. I am going to save hd movies and a load of games and iso's, so I like the 1.5tb. Probably wouldn't save enough to upgrade to the mb\cpu combo anyhow. Will go i7 eventually. I got a great discount specifially on the psu, but I will price the corsair you linked. Maybe I'll be able to get that and just slum it on the keyboard. Thanks for the info.
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June 19, 2012 9:00:22 PM

I think I am BLIND since I cant read that the price for the 560 is arounf $150 where are my glasses
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June 19, 2012 9:08:14 PM

I thought buffered was for servers and unbuffered for pcs
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June 19, 2012 9:28:03 PM

Intel Core i5-3570K CPU and BIOSTAR TZ77XE4 Motherboard Bundle ($365)
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/ite...

Corsair CAFA50 CPU Cooler ($10)
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/ite...

Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2x 4GB) DDR3-1600MHz CL9 Memory ($47)
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/ite...

Seagate Barracuda 1TB 7200RPM 64MB cache SATA 3 Hard Drive ($100)
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/ite...

Cooler Master Storm Scout ATX Mid-Tower Case ($80)
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

XFX Radeon HD 6870 + Total War: Shogun 2 Game Download Coupon and AMD Dirt3 Game Download ($170)
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

Corsair Enthusiast Series TX650 SLI-Ready 80+Bronze Power Supply ($70)
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium (64-bit) ($100)
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/ite...
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June 19, 2012 9:30:26 PM

Somehow I missed that there is an i5-3570 refurb in my range. Any objections to that idea?
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June 19, 2012 9:36:35 PM

Btw the 1.5TB drive has 4 platters, and you generally do not want more platters. The 1TB drive I suggested has just 1 platter (ST1000DM003) so it should be more reliable
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June 19, 2012 10:36:38 PM

That is the 560Ti, not the 560
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June 19, 2012 10:41:59 PM

Ok, I see. I'm sure the difference would be noticable. I will price that gpu. What do you think about a refurbished i5-3570? The retail is only $6 more than the new i5-3550.
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June 19, 2012 10:48:37 PM

I don't know Tiger Direct prices well but shouldn't a 3570K only be $10 more? Can i have a link too?
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June 19, 2012 10:58:03 PM

Wait? you have close to a 1k budget and you have a gtx 560?

If this is a gaming rig you are gunna want more than a gtx 560 uless you have a small monitor.

I would urge you to look at a 2500k/7850 build if you can make it happen. Hell, even a 2400 would do if you got in range of a 7850.

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June 19, 2012 11:16:25 PM

I am going to get my OS elsewhere in order to free up a little room on the budget.

The 3550 is $210. 3570 is $240. Refurb 3570 is $216. http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

I am now heavily leaning toward HD 6870. I just can't afford anything over the $200 mark.

@Loops Why 2500k 2nd gen over 3570k 3rd gen?
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June 19, 2012 11:25:07 PM

starstuff said:
I am going to get my OS elsewhere in order to free up a little room on the budget.

The 3550 is $210. 3570 is $240. Refurb 3570 is $216. http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

I am now heavily leaning toward HD 6870. I just can't afford anything over the $200 mark.

@Loops Why 2500k 2nd gen over 3570k 3rd gen?


http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-cpu-review-o...

From the standpoint of raw compute power, Core i5-2500K offers very little over the cheaper Core i5-3470. It does hold three distinctions, however: it runs, by default, a few hundred megahertz faster, it has the faster HD 3000 graphics engine, and it has an unlocked CPU multiplier.

The 200 MHz advantage held over the Core i5-3470 is quantifiable, but arguably not very significant (particularly since the -2500K's Sandy Bridge architecture is a little slower than Ivy Bridge). And gamers with discrete graphics cards care little about the integrated graphics engine. But the unlocked CPU multiplier is a must for overclockers using any Sandy Bridge-based CPU. The Core i5-2500K is an obvious choice for enthusiasts looking for the best combination of overclocking headroom and gaming potential.

I read this and say, on a budget an 2500k and z68 combo is the way to go. It tends to be about 30 bucks less and 30 bucks in the GPU market can be a big deal. I'd take an 2500k + 7850 over an i5 IB + 6870 and day of the week and 2x on Sunday. In game that 2500k/7850 is no joke. Hell, even an 2500k + 6950 is solid.

I have a 560s in SLI. Love it but if I were jumping in now, 2500k + 7850. The 560 just does not have the gpu ram to deal w/ max AA in some games. I'd look for a card that does...
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June 19, 2012 11:29:00 PM

sloppy fast build to make the point: Just making a point...








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V261-7850 ::VisionTek 900505 Radeon HD 7850 Video Card - 2048MB, GDDR5, PCI-Express 3.0 (x16), 1x Dual-Link DVI-I, 2x Mini DisplayPort, 1x HDMI, DirectX 11, Dual-Slot, CrossFireX, Eyefinity(1.85 lbs)


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G452-2366 ::GIGABYTE GA-Z77-DS3H Intel 7 Series Motherboard - ATX, Socket H2 (LGA1155), Intel Z77 Express, 1600MHz DDR3, SATA III (6Gb/s), RAID, 7.1-CH Audio, Gigabit LAN, USB 3.0, PCIe 3.0, CrossFireX Ready(2.95 lbs)


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June 19, 2012 11:38:04 PM

1k budget with these parts because Tigerdirect stuff is overpriced
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June 20, 2012 12:00:37 AM

This build totals $1039.89, minus known discounts of $78. I am sure that will leave enough to get a cheapie wireless keyboard\mouse on my $942 budget, after discounts on memory, cpu, gpu and hdd. Removing the OS cost helped alot. It is a budget monitor, but I will game on 42" LCD 1080p.

Better now?

C19-6177 :: Crucial Ballistix BLS2KIT4G3D1609DS1S0 Desktop Memory Kit - 8GB (2x 4GB), PC3-12800, DDR3-1600MHz, 240-pin DIMM, 1.5V, CL9, Non-ECC, Unbuffered 1 $46.99

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I69-2500K :: Intel Core i5-2500K BX80623I52500 Unlocked Processor - Quad Core, 6MB L3 Cache, 1MB L2 Cache, 3.30 GHz (3.70 GHz Max Turbo), Socket H2 (LGA1155), 95W, Fan, Retail 1 $219.99

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V261-7850 :: VisionTek 900505 Radeon HD 7850 Video Card - 2048MB, GDDR5, PCI-Express 3.0 (x16), 1x Dual-Link DVI-I, 2x Mini DisplayPort, 1x HDMI, DirectX 11, Dual-Slot, CrossFireX, Eyefinity 1 $249.99

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TSD-1000AS7 :: Seagate ST1000DM003 Barracuda 1TB Hard Drive - 1TB, 7200RPM, 64MB, SATA 6Gb/s 1 $99.99

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ULT-LSP750 :: Ultra LSP750 750-Watt Power Supply - ATX, SATA-Ready, SLI-Ready, 135mm Fan, Lifetime Warranty w/ Registration 1 $69.99

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C283-1221 :: Cooler Master Storm Scout ATX Mid-Tower Black Case - 5 Exterior 5.25" Drive Bay, 1 Exposed 3.5" Drive Bay, 5 Interior 3.5" Drive Bay. "Supports Nvidia GTX 480" 1 $79.99

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B450-9607 :: BIOSTAR TZ77XE3 Intel 7 Series Motherboard - ATX, Socket H2 (LGA1155), Intel Z77 Express, 2600MHz DDR3 (O.C.), SATA III (6Gb/s), RAID, 8-CH Audio, Gigabit LAN, USB 3.0, PCIe 3.0, SLI/CrossFireX 1 $144.99

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O451-1030 OEM :: Sony Optiarc AD7280S-OB 24x DVDRW Drive - 24x, SATA, Black, OEM 1 $17.99

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H94-2106 :: HannsG HL229DPB 22" Class Widescreen LED Backlit Monitor - 1920 x 1080, 16:9, 30000000:1 Dynamic, 1000:1 Native, 5ms, DVI, VGA, Built-in Speakers, Energy Star 1 $109.97

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June 20, 2012 12:03:51 AM

BTW, I stayed with this MB for future upgradablility. I got a great deal on the PSU. If it sucks, I will replace it later.
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June 20, 2012 3:19:11 AM

starstuff said:
What about hd 7850 vs gtx 480? It looks like 480 has the edge to me. This card is the same price, $250. http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...


If the 480 was at 209.00 and the 7850 at 250.00 I'd say ok. But if they are a few bucks apart skip the 480. It runs a bit hot even if it is still a monster. The 7850 are known to OC very well and not cause heat and power issues. The 480 is a hell of a card at 209.00 beyond that I would move on to cooler less power needing cards.

http://www.hwcompare.com/12055/geforce-gtx-480-vs-radeo... You can see power issues. Remember. OC the 7850 (easy to do) and you should be on par to a 480 at stock.
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June 20, 2012 1:12:13 PM

If I were you I would stick to the 3570K + mobo combo or the refurb 3570K if that + mobo is cheaper than the combo.
The 7850 is a legitimate choice though.
The power supply, I would get the Corsair.
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June 20, 2012 2:18:01 PM

Alright, here is my final order, which has been submitted for proccessing. I am really glad that I came to this forum. I am better educated and feel that this purchase best meets my needs and budget. The total was 939.90, so I used almost every available dollar. Thank you guys so much for taking your time to help out a stranger.

I69-2500K :: Intel Core i5-2500K BX80623I52500 Unlocked Processor - Quad Core, 6MB L3 Cache, 1MB L2 Cache, 3.30 GHz (3.70 GHz Max Turbo), Socket H2 (LGA1155), 95W, Fan, Retail 1 $219.99

V261-7850 :: VisionTek 900505 Radeon HD 7850 Video Card - 2048MB, GDDR5, PCI-Express 3.0 (x16), 1x Dual-Link DVI-I, 2x Mini DisplayPort, 1x HDMI, DirectX 11, Dual-Slot, CrossFireX, Eyefinity 1 $249.99

B450-9606 :: BIOSTAR TZ77XE4 Intel 7 Series Motherboard - ATX, Socket H2 (LGA1155), Intel Z77 Express, 2600MHz DDR3 (O.C.), SATA III (6Gb/s), RAID, 8-CH Audio, Gigabit LAN, USB 3.0, PCIe 3.0, SLI/CrossFireX 1 $154.99

TSD-1000AS7 :: Seagate ST1000DM003 Barracuda 1TB Hard Drive - 1TB, 7200RPM, 64MB, SATA 6Gb/s 1 $99.99

C19-6177 :: Crucial Ballistix BLS2KIT4G3D1609DS1S0 Desktop Memory Kit - 8GB (2x 4GB), PC3-12800, DDR3-1600MHz, 240-pin DIMM, 1.5V, CL9, Non-ECC, Unbuffered 1 $46.99

C283-1221 :: Cooler Master Storm Scout ATX Mid-Tower Black Case - 5 Exterior 5.25" Drive Bay, 1 Exposed 3.5" Drive Bay, 5 Interior 3.5" Drive Bay. "Supports Nvidia GTX 480" 1 $79.99

M17-1727 :: Microsoft 2LF-00001 Wireless DeskTop 800 Keyboard and Mouse Combo - 2.4 GHz Wireless, 15 Feet Range, USB 2.0 Receiver, Optical, 1000dpi, Black 1 $29.99

ULT-LSP750 :: Ultra LSP750 750-Watt Power Supply - ATX, SATA-Ready, SLI-Ready, 135mm Fan, Lifetime Warranty w/ Registration 1 $69.99

ULT40450 :: Ultra ULT40450 Power Supply Vibration Dampener - Standard ATX, Silicone Material 1 $4.99

S262-3074 :: StarTech DVIDDMM6 DVI-D Dual Link Digital Video Monitor Cable - 6ft, Male to Male 1 $10.14

K450-2900 :: Kingwin ATS-W24 Anti-Static Wrist Strap - PU Plastic, PVC Molding, 6 Feet 1 $6.99

C283-1147 :: Cooler Master Thermal Compound 1 $7.99

O451-1030 OEM :: Sony Optiarc AD7280S-OB 24x DVDRW Drive - 24x, SATA, Black, OEM 2 $17.99

H94-2106 :: HannsG HL229DPB 22" Class Widescreen LED Backlit Monitor - 1920 x 1080, 16:9, 30000000:1 Dynamic, 1000:1 Native, 5ms, DVI, VGA, Built-in Speakers, Energy Star 1 $109.97

Total $1127.98
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June 20, 2012 2:42:15 PM

why not the 3570K? With a $1100 budget you can do a lot better than some of the things you chose /:
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June 20, 2012 3:13:13 PM

I chose 2500k due to the overclocking potential and lower heat levels. From reading around the net, 2500k vs 3570k is debatable. I know everybody hates the psu, but I got it for just over $30. The case simply appeals to me. The mobo seems like a solid choice for upgrading in the future. The box, without k/m, monitor, dvi cable, strap and thermal compound comes in at about $960 retail.

I thought that the order was going to be entered into the system by my contact at TG, but I have to submit the order with a paper form through my dad's employer. This gives me a 24 cooling period in order to make changes.
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June 20, 2012 3:52:52 PM

People are grumbling about the PSU because that is generally regarded as the one place you never want to cheap out on. No matter how capable the rest of your components, they are at the mercy of the PSU. If it doesn't regulate the power properly it will limit the performance of all those parts, and worse, if it fries, you will kick yourself for not spending the few extra bucks. The corsair that UVB linked is very much better, and not a bad deal at $70. But I just saw thins offer for the same exact PSU bundled with a flash drive for a less - $58. Corsair Enthusiast Series TX650 V2 650W 80+ Bronze and Corsair 8GB Voyager Flash Drive Bundle
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June 20, 2012 8:12:51 PM

starstuff said:
I chose 2500k due to the overclocking potential and lower heat levels. From reading around the net, 2500k vs 3570k is debatable. I know everybody hates the psu, but I got it for just over $30. The case simply appeals to me. The mobo seems like a solid choice for upgrading in the future. The box, without k/m, monitor, dvi cable, strap and thermal compound comes in at about $960 retail.

I thought that the order was going to be entered into the system by my contact at TG, but I have to submit the order with a paper form through my dad's employer. This gives me a 24 cooling period in order to make changes.


You will not get that big of a difference in clock speeds, but the 3570K is the faster chip. No, overclocking potential is not as high, but it performs better at lower clocks. And it is not like you can really OC either, with no CPU cooler. If the PSU dies, its taking your whole system down, and can potentially start a friggin' fire. And if you're going to use a 2500K, there is no benefit of a Z77 over a Z68. Keep in mind that next generation of Intel CPUs will not use LGA-1155.
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June 20, 2012 8:33:53 PM

Regardless of chip, my first upgrade will be cooling. The psu will be corsair 650w. I have been on the fence on the cpu. You are right about Z77 vs Z68. I don't like getting older tech for the same cost, so I may opt for 3570K. At my level, the difference in OC would probably go unnoticed anyhow.
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June 20, 2012 8:35:42 PM

UVB076 said:
You will not get that big of a difference in clock speeds, but the 3570K is the faster chip. No, overclocking potential is not as high, but it performs better at lower clocks. And it is not like you can really OC either, with no CPU cooler. If the PSU dies, its taking your whole system down, and can potentially start a friggin' fire. And if you're going to use a 2500K, there is no benefit of a Z77 over a Z68. Keep in mind that next generation of Intel CPUs will not use LGA-1155.


The price on z77 and z68 mobos are close enough now that it really does not matter.

As for the 2500k from Tom's own review: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-cpu-review-o...

As a gamer there's little reason to pay more money for Intel's Core i5-3570K instead of the i5-2500K. However, it is worth noting that the third-gen Core processor features a lower TDP and includes 16 lanes of PCI Express 3.0 connectivity. If you're buying a 7-series motherboard and Radeon HD 7000- or GeForce GTX 600-series graphics card anyway, enabling a faster connection between the CPU and GPU might be an important check-list feature (even if it isn't currently an important performance consideration).

As far as overclocking is concerned, you should be able to hit similar clock rates on the Core i5-3570K as Sandy Bridge-based CPUs, though you may need to live with higher temperatures, as Ivy Bridge runs notoriously warmer.

Read reviews of the Ivy Bridge-based CPUs...An Evolution That Makes Sense, But Doesn't Impress

On a budget----> 2500k. The i5-3570k get an Honorable Mention and something to pick up when the budget allows. There is no real good reason right now to go past a 2500k when you are on a budget.
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June 20, 2012 9:59:53 PM

With the money you save by not buying custom thermal grease, you can pretty much spring for the i5-3570K.
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June 23, 2012 3:59:31 PM

After doing some homework and considering advice from this thread, I think this is the best build for my money. Decided to go 2500K and Z68 board because it suits my needs and allows for a better VC. This board has alot of features for the price and should be good for OC. I will add cooling before OCing, of course. Future upgrade plans include: Second 7850, 8GB more ram, SSD, 1TB HDD and another LCD.

Will this psu be up to the task after these upgrades?

GIGABYTE GA-Z68X-UD3H-B3
i5-2500K
Sapphire 11200-01-20G Radeon HD 7850
Corsair Enthusiast Series TX650 V2
Seagate 1TB HDD 7200RPM, 64MB, SATA 6Gbs
Crucial Ballistix 8GB PC3-12800 DDR3-1600MHz Unbuffered
MSI IN-9410 Raptor Mid Tower Case
Acer G245HQ 24" Widescreen LCD Monitor
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June 24, 2012 12:38:33 AM

8GB is actually more than enough for gaming.
I don't see the point in buying older tech for around the same price, the IPC boost outweighs the OC boost.
Yay you went with a better PSU
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