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June 20, 2012 7:40:00 PM

I've been looking into cyberpowerpc.com and i have built a few PCs there and after a few days, I built a PC that meets my requirements and at its cheapest price. Over the past few days of researching different builds and products, I've seen too many people recommend a home built pc over cyberpowerpc. So i decided to try this out. I took the PC i built at cyberpower and created a wishlist at newegg.com with parts that either match the products i have on my CPP (cyberpowerpc) build, or replicate it best. The price i got with a CPP was cheaper than what i got with the home built PC. I've read so many forums ,especially this one, and I've heard so many people recommend a home built over a companies build just because of cheaper prices, but i have experienced the opposite with my recent research.


Here are the builds:

Home built:


Case: Corsair Carbide Series 300R Black Steel / Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

MB: GIGABYTE GA-Z77X-D3H LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GPU: SAPPHIRE 11188-22-20G Radeon HD 6950 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card (OC Edition)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU: CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX850 V2 850W ATX12V v2.31/ EPS12V v2.92 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC High Performance Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000 BX80637I53570K
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAM: CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9B
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HDD: Seagate Barracuda ST31000524AS 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Optical drive: ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS Black SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Extra 120mm case fan: COOLER MASTER R4-S2S-124K-GP 120mm Case Fan 4 in 1 pack
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Cooling fan: CORSAIR CWCH60 Hydro Series H60 High Performance Liquid CPU Cooler
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Keyboard: Orange KBC2900BK Black 104 Normal Keys 20 Function Keys USB Wired Ergonomic Keyboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Mouse: V7 M30P10-7N Black 3 Buttons 1 x Wheel USB Wired Optical Mouse - OEM http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

OS: windows 7
(Note: The home built extra case fan was the best deal i could find in a black color.)
Total:$1156.88 (not including shipping and no coupon used, but i'm not sure if the coupons really matter)


Cyberpowerpc build

Case: Corsair Carbide 300R Mid-Tower Gaming Case w/ front USB 3.0
Extra case fan: Maximum 120MM Case Cooling Fans for your selected case
CPU: Intel® Core™ i5-3570K 3.40 GHz 6MB Intel Smart Cache LGA1155 (All Venom OC Certified)
Cooling fan: Corsair Hydro Series H60 High Performance Liquid Cooling System 120MM Radiator & Fan (Dual Standard 120MM Fans (Push-Pull))
MB: [CrossFireX/SLI] GIGABYTE GA-Z77X-D3H Intel Z77 Chipset DDR3 ATX Mainboard w/ IRST, Lucid Virtu MVP, Ultra Durable4 Classic, 7.1 HD Audio, GbLAN, 3x Gen3 PCIe x16, 3x PCIe x1 & 1 PCI (All Venom OC Certified)
RAM: 8GB (4GBx2) DDR3/1600MHz Dual Channel Memory (Corsair XMS with Heat Spreader)
GPU: AMD Radeon HD 6950 2GB 16X PCIe Video Card (Major Brand Powered by AMD)
PSU: 850 Watts - Corsair CMPSU-850TXV2 80 Plus Power Supply - Quad SLI Ready
HDD: 1TB SATA-III 6.0Gb/s 32MB Cache 7200RPM HDD (Single Drive)
Optical drive: 24X Double Layer Dual Format DVD+-R/+-RW + CD-R/RW Drive (BLACK COLOR)
Sound: Sound: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO
Network: Onboard Gigabit LAN Network
Keyboard: Xtreme Gear (Black Color) Multimedia/Internet USB Keyboard
Mouse: XtremeGear Optical USB 3 Buttons Gaming Mouse
OS: Microsoft® Windows 7 Home Premium (64-bit Edition)
Protection: Ultra Enhanced Packaging Solution - Protect Your Dream System During Transit
Service: STANDARD WARRANTY: 3-YEAR LIMITED WARRANTY PLUS LIFE-TIME TECHNICAL SUPPORT
Total Price $1082 (with shipping and coupon applied)

The only difference i can see between the two is that i'll get my pc about a week or two earlier with a home build, and with cyberpower i get warranty (even if it may not be good, its still better than none at all from a home build).

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June 20, 2012 8:08:28 PM

You are correct sometimes it is cheaper for prebuilt when you consider deals/warranties any everything.

For some particular parts cyberpowerpc marks up them alot (low supply high end parts are often marked up higher than retail), so you can be wary of that.
Otherwise you can definitely get a better deal with prebuilt at times, just on average it is usually cheaper to build yourself.
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June 20, 2012 9:06:39 PM

Wouldn't having someone else build it ruin all the fun? :) 

Seems like a good deal for the components they have chosen, but it seems like you could beat the price if you chose smarter components (and definately if you had some you could reuse, such as the case/HDD/mouse/kb/OS)

The 850W PSU and the liquid cooling are pretty overkill for the build. The GPU is good, but it's not what I would choose today. But still, for a full build it's a good deal.

edit: Does it come overclocked to any degree? And if not, do you plan to overclock it? If not there isn't much need for the high(ish) end mobo and unlocked i5.
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June 20, 2012 9:11:06 PM

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Wouldn't having someone else build it ruin all the fun? :) 


Yes, it would completely. :) 

It is so fun to see it light up and work right knowing you built it.

The geek in me wouldn't have it any other way.
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June 20, 2012 9:37:49 PM

The beauty of building your own is that you have a much larger choice of parts. You get to shop around and find the best deals.

Just by choosing another motherboard you can save $50 by going Z75 instead of Z77. Even so here's a comparable Z77.

Azrock z77 pro 4 $119.99 (save $25) - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

You also don't need such a beefy powersupply.

Antec Neo Eco 620 $69.99 (save $65) - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Also don't need a watercooler, can use stock heatsink/fan if not overclocking. If you would like to overclock get a good air cooler

CM Hyper 212+ $29.99 (save $35 to $65) - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Those are just the big ones. You can save probably $5-$10 on most of the other smaller components just by looking at other reputable brands/products. These savings can also allow a GPU upgrade to say a Radeon 7870, then you get a better rig at the same cost instead of the same rig at less cost.
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June 20, 2012 9:42:26 PM

Just to let you guys know, i understand my homebuild newegg computer has some overkill parts, the purpose of this thread was for the homebuild to match the cyberpowerpc's build for a price of $1082 as closely as possible.
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June 20, 2012 9:48:22 PM

I've had success with two CyberPower PCs but built my most recent one. Tech support is good but hard to understand sometimes.
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June 20, 2012 9:51:20 PM

my brother got a pc built from them, horrible tech support. if a part goes bad, they do not give you a new one they normally give out refurbished ones. some of the parts they even put in your rig are refurbished.
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June 20, 2012 11:19:09 PM

starburst said:
Just to let you guys know, i understand my homebuild newegg computer has some overkill parts, the purpose of this thread was for the homebuild to match the cyberpowerpc's build for a price of $1082 as closely as possible.



And we are trying to show you that it can be done and then some. The purpose of a home build is to not be restricted solely to what the manufacturer offers and choose the parts that are right for you while eliminating the overkill that a lot of boutique places offer. Trying to build the same PC of the same exact components in my mind is a) silly and b) a bit shortsighted. They get special deals from manufacturers for featuring their products as well as buying in bulk so naturally they can offer the parts themselves at less cost than you can buy them for at retail. They make money in extras, labor and selling extended warranties, not parts. There's no reason trying to copy their exact parts build when you can build something equivalent or better for the same or less money.

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Oh and my roommate/best friend ordered a cyberpower PC once out of impulse and it ended up not being the best, especially the watercooler. They aren't low/no maintenance a lot of the time so if you don't have experience with them I would steer clear. So the next time he wanted a new one I had him price up one from them and showed him what I could build a faster system for and needless to say I built his last computer. I built something for almost $400 less that would've eaten the cyberpower PC he mocked up for lunch.
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June 20, 2012 11:24:15 PM

So in order to build something better your basically eliminating the overkill parts cyberpower provides you with? I'm trying not to overkill anything trying many different builds online, and i'm still not getting much better prices.
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June 20, 2012 11:37:53 PM

starburst said:
So in order to build something better your basically eliminating the overkill parts cyberpower provides you with? I'm trying not to overkill anything trying many different builds online, and i'm still not getting much better prices.



More or less that is the idea yes. You can streamline the build more effectively by matching everything accordingly. For instance there is nothing wrong with an 850W PSU, as a matter of fact the one in that build is a great unit. But there is absolutely nothing in that build that requires that much power so you can save money by getting one that is more in line with the actual power needs of the system. Now if you wanted to crossfire for instance then the 850W PSU would be needed but if you don't do it from the start odds are you won't do it at all.

The same goes for the rest of the parts. If the Z75 chipset offers every option you want why bother paying extra for the Z77 chipset? If you can buy high quality name brand ram with the same frequency/latency for $10 less than the brand that they use why not? Do you have to have that case or will something like the rosewill challenger or one of the lower cost NZXT or cooler master cases be cool looking enough? There's no point in paying for more than you need imo. This is just an example of where I'm coming from.
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June 21, 2012 1:07:18 AM

well, i understand what your getting at now, the options i have selected from cyberpower are the best prices i can find. The PSU is one of the cheapest they have there, other than their standard PSU which is absolutley terrible. If they had a 650w or even a 550w good brand PSU then of course i would have went with that to save money, but they don't with the particular build i have. And as for the motherboards, they have about 10 z77 chipsets, 1 z68 and some other chipset that i forgot.

I think i have come to realize the main benefits of both and disadvantages of both. Bottom line prebuilt, you are limited, and taking a risk with parts. Do it yourself you have all the choices in the world and you know you have a brand new device sitting in that box.
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