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June 20, 2012 8:47:08 PM

Hello,
this is my first time building a pc, and I have a budget of $1000, will these specs run new games?
Intel Core i5 3570k
ASUS P8Z77-V LX
EVGA Geforce GTX 560 SE (1GB)
8GB RAM
500GB Hard Drive
Ultra LSP550 650-Watt Power Supply

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June 20, 2012 8:58:07 PM

Yeah all good choices except for the PSU - Ultra PSUs are some of the absolute worst on the market. Get a Corsair TX650 instead or a Seasonic S12 620W. Those are far better choices than Ultra's garbage.

And instead of the 560TI you should try to get the newer Radeon 7850.
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June 20, 2012 9:19:23 PM

The 7850 is almost a $100 more than the 560SE, is there another card that can run new games in the $100-$200 range?
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June 20, 2012 9:28:09 PM

As far as graphics cards go, the Sapphire Radeon HD 6950 2GB is on sale @ Newegg for $200 right now, and it's a great deal. Much faster than the 560SE.
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June 20, 2012 9:33:04 PM

Plus you get Dirt3 and BF3.
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June 20, 2012 9:34:33 PM

Wait? when you say 1k do you mean for the main rig or all the other stuff like OS, monitor, mouse, key board, ect?
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June 20, 2012 9:34:34 PM

218omar said:
The 7850 is almost a $100 more than the 560SE, is there another card that can run new games in the $100-$200 range?


It's entirely possible to fit a 7850 into a $1K budget without sacrificing anything, check this out:

Case: Corsair Carbide 300R - $79.99
PSU: Seasonic S12 II 620W - $86.99
Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme 4 - $139.99
CPU: 3.4GHz Intel Core i5-3570K - $229.99
Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo - $34.99
RAM: 8GB G.Skill Ripjaw X 1600Mhz 1.5V - $46.99
HD: 1TB Seagate Barracuda ST - $99.99
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7850 - $239.99

Total: $961.89
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June 20, 2012 9:36:18 PM

I mean just the main rig, I already have everything else.
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June 20, 2012 9:36:37 PM

g-unit1111 said:
Yeah all good choices except for the PSU - Ultra PSUs are some of the absolute worst on the market. Get a Corsair TX650 instead or a Seasonic S12 620W. Those are far better choices than Ultra's garbage.

And instead of the 560TI you should try to get the newer Radeon 7850.


Diito on G-Unit's comments. I had an Ultra PSU and it was not good at all. Pretty to look at, nice packaging, nice wesbite..but it was really, really loud. I will never buy one again.

Corsair and Seasonic are definitely better. May want to consider XFX also. Their PSUs are made by Seasonic and they look great.

I highly endorse the 7850 also. Outside of the GTX470 it is the best bang for your buck out there.

I would strongly encourage you to go for it. It is worth the extra $30-$50
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June 20, 2012 9:44:30 PM

rwayne said:
Diito on G-Unit's comments. I had an Ultra PSU and it was not good at all. Pretty to look at, nice packaging, nice wesbite..but it was really, really loud. I will never buy one again.

Corsair and Seasonic are definitely better. May want to consider XFX also. Their PSUs are made by Seasonic and they look great.

I highly endorse the 7850 also. Outside of the GTX470 it is the best bang for your buck out there.

I would strongly encourage you to go for it. It is worth the extra $30-$50


My first build had an Ultra PSU in it and if I ran my PC on anything where it required use of the CPU not in idle mode (read: games, etc) it would completely shut down on me without warning. I chucked it, and will never buy again.
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June 20, 2012 9:45:34 PM

218omar said:
I mean just the main rig, I already have everything else.


A gtx 670 is one of the best cards out right now. It is just a few % slower than a gtx 680 (arguably the best single card out). The 7850 is a fine card and fits well with 800 dollar builds all day. But at 1k I'd skip on the aftermarket coolers (no need to OC that cpu right now) and SSD to get the i5/670 build. My build main draw back in the mobo, it is rather basic but in game and after the build you are not going to notice it much.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-670-rev...

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-670-rev...

...it is still surprising to see our GeForce GTX 670 sample perform just 4.5% slower than our reference GeForce GTX 680—certainly less of a gap then we were told to expect. Knowing that overclocking on air is often enough to overcome a sub-5% spread, this almost negates any reason you might have had for buying a GeForce GTX 680...
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June 20, 2012 9:48:28 PM

So, the Ultra PSU is out and the corsair tx650 is in, $20 extra, no biggie. I'm still on the edge about the 7850, but after reading reviews, it looks worth the money it costs.
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June 20, 2012 9:52:49 PM

218omar said:
So, the Ultra PSU is out and the corsair tx650 is in, $20 extra, no biggie. I'm still on the edge about the 7850, but after reading reviews, it looks worth the money it costs.



The 7850 is a good card but you are in range of getting the performance of a gtx 680 ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... ) a gpu card that goes for about 500 bucks.
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June 20, 2012 9:53:51 PM

218omar said:
So, the Ultra PSU is out and the corsair tx650 is in, $20 extra, no biggie. I'm still on the edge about the 7850, but after reading reviews, it looks worth the money it costs.


It is - I have the 7870 and it's an amazing GPU, the 7850 is more affordable and gets the job done.
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June 20, 2012 9:59:17 PM

g-unit1111 said:
It is - I have the 7870 and it's an amazing GPU, the 7850 is more affordable and gets the job done.



It does very well even against a better gpu:

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/549?vs=598

As for affordable your build is 12 bucks cheaper.
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June 20, 2012 10:18:17 PM

loops said:
It does very well even against a better gpu:

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/549?vs=598

As for affordable your build is 12 bucks cheaper.


Actually it's $22 cheaper - Newegg discounted the 7850 by $10. :sol: 

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as for the 7850, I'm looking at visiontek, anyone have any opinion about the brand?
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applicat [...] CatId=7387


Go with Sapphire - they use the AMD drivers and they make really solid cards.
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June 20, 2012 10:25:34 PM

g-unit1111 said:
Actually it's $22 cheaper - Newegg discounted the 7850 by $10. :sol: 



My bad. :D  If we were benching rigs offered here I'd by ok with the extra 22 bucks (and still under budget). At the end of the day tho it is not all about the bench marks. I nicer case and a sensible gpu is a valid option. As games get more challenging tho, I would rather go into that fray with a better gpu. Its about value, and it seems the OP is not impressed with the gtx 670 to the same level as I.
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June 20, 2012 10:39:58 PM

loops said:
My bad. :D  If we were benching rigs offered here I'd by ok with the extra 22 bucks (and still under budget). At the end of the day tho it is not all about the bench marks. I nicer case and a sensible gpu is a valid option. As games get more challenging tho, I would rather go into that fray with a better gpu. Its about value, and it seems the OP is not impressed with the gtx 670 to the same level as I.


Yeah some people are very passionate about the brands they pick. Me I pick whatever the fastest is based on benchmarks. With the extra $22 you could upgrade the case to a Phantom 410 or Carbide 400R or Arc MIDI.
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June 20, 2012 10:58:28 PM

Best answer selected by 218omar.
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