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First Time PC Build Update: Ivy Bridge vs. Core i7-3820, and Cases

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June 21, 2012 2:29:28 AM

Since my previous post, I began tweaking my system specifications using some of the suggestions given to me on this fourm to get my system within my established budget with some degree of success. You can view my previous post with the following link

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/350995-31-first-time-...

I have several questions in this post for the community. Should I continue with Ivy Bridge or consider an X79/Core i7-3820 based build for a similar price? The reason I ask this is that I perceive a possible advantage for the graphics applications I plan on using with my build. Not only that, but I also have the option to upgrade to a six core processor in the future. What are the pro and cons between Ivy Bridge and Sandy Bridge-E? I also have a question regarding cases. Are either the Antec Three Hundred Two or NZXT Phantom 410 adequate for the kind of build that I am doing? Or, should I consider the case I previously picked, the Corsair 600t? The problem here that I need to keep my system within my established budget with minimal impact on performance, functionality, and expandability. However, I probably will not need all the bells and whistles of a premium case. A less extravagant case was one of the suggestions I was given to get the cost of my system within my budget.

Approximate purchase date- This summer

Budget Range: My budget limit has established at approximately $2200 including the monitor.

System Usage: Gaming (including modding PC games), game design, graphic design (including Adobe CS6 applications such as Photoshop & Illustrator) 2D/3D modeling & animation (I plan on installing the Autodesk Entertainment Creation Suite programs and Pixologic Z-brush), regular school work, and general entertainment (music, films etc.)

Parts not required: speakers

Preferred website(s) for parts: newegg.com

Country: United States

Parts Preferences: Intel for CPUs. I have no specific preference for the other components.

Overclocking: This may be a compelling project to try at some point in the future. The prospect of it happening though is unlikely

SLI or Crossfire: I plan on starting with a single graphics card. The possibility of setting up multiple graphics cards down the road depends on if I can do this with a dedicated sound card occupying on of the PCI Express 1x slots.

Monitor Resolution: 1920x1200 is the optimal resolution I am aiming for. I cannot go higher as a result of budget constraints.

Additional comments: The computer system that I am looking for must be able to comfortably play bleeding-edge games at rock solid frame rates and their complete visual glory (60 frames per second at max settings is highly preferable). I am also little weary of the motherboard I picked as a result of bad reviews on newegg.com despite the excellent reviews from the media. Nonetheless, I find this motherboard to be the idea pick for me so far given features and budget constraints.

Here is the updated Specifications for this build-

CPU- Intel Core i7 3770k- $349.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU Cooler- Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO- $34.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Motherboard- Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD5H- $189.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Memory- CORSAIR Vengeance 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 Desktop Memory Model CMZ16GX3M2A1600C9 $134.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Hard Drive- Seagate Barracuda ST1000DM003 1TB- $99.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

SSD- OCZ Vertex 4 128GB- $129.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Optical Drive- ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS- $19.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Graphics Card- EVGA Geforce GTX 670- $399.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Monitor- Dell Ultrasharp U2410- $529.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Case- Antec Three Hundred Two- $69.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
OR
NZXT Phantom 410- $99.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Power Supply- SeaSonic Platinum-860- $189.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Keyboard- Microsoft Sidewinder X4 Keyboard- $46.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Mouse- RAZER Abyssus- $39.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Operating System- Windows 7 Professional 64-bit OEM- $139.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
June 21, 2012 4:00:11 AM

A $35 cooler in a $2250 PC is like putting a 40 HP engine in a Muscle Car. Add the steamy Ivy Bridge CPU and you're undercooled. At the very least get a Hyper 612 PWM or Scythe Mugen 3 .... Better yet, if ya do decide to OC more than "moderately", Phanteks or Thermalright Silver Arrow

Drop the tall heat sinks and get low profile versions. they won't fit under the 212 or the 612.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


This CPU / MoBo combo is $535 ..... gets ya a better MoBo w/ an extra year warranty for $5 less.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

$25 more gets ya the 5 year warranty Sabertooth which is a great board and another year of warranty.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

Even if it wasn't cheaper, I'd take the Mushkin Chronos Deluxe and its premium toshiba toggle mode flash
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GFX Card has a boost clock of 980 Mhz, this one is 1137 MHz, 16% faster and .... can be OC's to 120 ..... the only card ever to get a 10.0 rating from techpowerup
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.guru3d.com/article/asus-geforce-gtx-670-dire...
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/GeForce_GTX_670...

Tho even with this card, you'll need two of them to break 39 fps in Metro 2033, 57 fps in BF3, 53 fps in AvP, 52 in Lost Planet 2.

Dell monitor will be great for the photo work (I have one) .... less so for gaming.
http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/dell_u2410.htm

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Are either the Antec Three Hundred Two or NZXT Phantom 410 adequate for the kind of build that I am doing? Or, should I consider the case I previously picked, the Corsair 600t? T


No.....the 300 is not good enough .... I'd suggest the Corsair 500R or Antec 900 V3



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June 21, 2012 4:13:06 AM
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I have several questions in this post for the community. Should I continue with Ivy Bridge or consider an X79/Core i7-3820 based build for a similar price?


You won't notice much performance difference between the i7-3770K and i7-3820. You will see a huge difference between the 3930K and the 3770K.


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The reason I ask this is that I perceive a possible advantage for the graphics applications I plan on using with my build. Not only that, but I also have the option to upgrade to a six core processor in the future.


If you configure it right you can get the 3930K without having to buy two CPUs.


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What are the pro and cons between Ivy Bridge and Sandy Bridge-E?


The biggest pro for SB-E is the increased RAM capacity - Ivy Bridge and Z77 have a limit of 32GB RAM - most X79 boards have a limit of 64GB RAM and some even have a limit of 128GB RAM and then there's the EVGA Classified SRX but that's a whole different ballgame.

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I also have a question regarding cases. Are either the Antec Three Hundred Two or NZXT Phantom 410 adequate for the kind of build that I am doing? Or, should I consider the case I previously picked, the Corsair 600t?


The 300 has no cable management or USB 3.0. The Phantom 410 is a good all-round case with not too many frills but it has great interior features. The Corsair will handle anything you throw at it.

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The problem here that I need to keep my system within my established budget with minimal impact on performance, functionality, and expandability. However, I probably will not need all the bells and whistles of a premium case. A less extravagant case was one of the suggestions I was given to get the cost of my system within my budget.
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For a $2K system here's what I would suggest:

Case: Corsair Carbide 500R - $139.99
PSU: PC Power & Cooling Silencer MKII 750W - $109.99
Motherboard: Asus Sabertooth X79 - $319.99
CPU: 3.6Ghz Intel Core i7-3820 - $299.99
Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 Socket LGA 2011 Edition - $85.99
RAM: 16GB (4 x 4GB) Mushkin Enhanced Blackline 1600Mhz 1.5V - $94.99
SSD: 128GB OCZ Vertex 4 - $129.99
HD: 2TB Seagate Barracuda 7200 RPM - $119.99
Optical: LG Blu Ray Burner - $79.99
Video Card: EVGA Geforce GTX 670 - $399.99
OS: Windows 7 Pro - $139.99

Total: $1,919.89

The difference will leave you more than enough room to get a nice monitor.
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June 21, 2012 4:52:48 AM

+1 to g-unit1111 build it will serve you well plus like he said the difference will leave you more than enough room to get a nice monitor.
June 21, 2012 5:29:27 AM

The 500R has better thermals, so that case is great.
June 21, 2012 2:04:54 PM

Best answer selected by mesopotamian.
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