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June 21, 2012 3:23:09 PM

I'm looking to build a gaming pc for around $600. At first I was going with amd, but after some research I leaning more towards the 2120 i3. I have no idea what motherboard to get with this processor. I'm pretty sure I'm getting the radieon 6870( I believe thats right, to hard to look on my phone). If anyone can help me finish this build, or even completely change it would be awesome. I just don't want to spend much over $600 because I still need a monitor. Also I plan to edit some, but my highest priority is gaming.

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June 21, 2012 3:43:19 PM

This will give you excellent performance in most games on ultra settings at 1080p resolution. A tiny bit above budget but well worth it. If you can get an optical drive from somewhere you'll be all set for $600!

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i3-2120 3.3GHz Dual-Core Processor ($116.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI H67A-G43 (B3) ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Value Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Hard Drive: Seagate Barracuda 750GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: HIS Radeon HD 7850 2GB Video Card ($224.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Antec Three Hundred ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair 500W ATX12V Power Supply ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Sony AD-7280S-0B DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $619.92
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
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June 21, 2012 3:50:59 PM

Here is the build i reccomend to you.

CPU Intel Core i5 2310 174$
http://www.amazon.com/Intel-Processor-i5-2310-LGA1155-B...


Graphics Card HIS HD 6870 160$
http://www.amazon.com/HIS-Radeon-DisplayPort-Express-H6...


Motherboard ASUS P8H61-M LX PLUS 70$
http://www.amazon.com/P8H61-M-LX-PLUS-REV-3-0/dp/B005WU...

PSU Antec VP-450 35$.I know it seems like its not enough but it has more than enough power for your build and is generally a very high quality PSU.
http://www.amazon.com/Antec-VP-450-Energy-Certified-Sup...

RAM Patriot Sector 5 G 2x4GB 1333MHz CL9 42$
http://www.amazon.com/Patriot-PC3-10666-9-9-9-24-Channe...


HDD Seagate Momentus XT 500GB 86$ (Thats actually a Hybrid drive.Its faster than a HDD.
http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Momentus-Solid-Hybrid-ST9...

Case NZXT Gamma 36$
http://www.amazon.com/GAMMA-Classic-Interior-Chassis-Bl...

The total price of the build is 603$.
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June 21, 2012 3:57:42 PM

What resolution are you thinking about?
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June 21, 2012 4:50:03 PM

GIGABYTE GZ-F5HEB Black SECC Steel / ABS ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
$19.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

ASUS 24X DVD Burner - Bulk 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM Black SATA Model DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS - OEM
$16.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Intel Core i3-2120 Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz LGA 1155 65W Dual-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 2000 BX80623I32120
$124.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

ASRock Z68 PRO3 GEN3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
$104.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Patriot Signature 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory with heatshield Model PSD38G1600KH
$44.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 6870 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card (100314-3L )
$169.99 and a $10 rebate makes the final price $159.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CORSAIR Builder Series CX600 V2 600W ATX12V v2.3 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply
$69.99 and a $20 rebate makes the final price $49.99.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Seagate Barracuda ST500DM002 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
$79.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

The total for this build comes to $601.99 and maybe you can find an extra $1.99 someplace. Check under the couch cushions or under the seat of the car , you know the usual places that you can find spare change and it does add up an you should have $1.99 in no time. :D 
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June 21, 2012 4:55:02 PM

Z68 with i3? :lol: 
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June 21, 2012 4:59:52 PM

guerrero said:
Z68 with i3? :lol: 



and?
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June 21, 2012 5:01:36 PM

loops said:
and?


Excuse my cousin lol he thinks he knows everything mwahaha (he just punched me sorry for this)
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June 21, 2012 5:11:55 PM

Of those presented, I like Thomas_89's build, but note that those prices include at least one MIR. You may not win that game, and in any case your out-of-pocket costs will be higher. If you plan to get a 1920x1080 monitor, you'll probably appreciate the HD7850.
If you need to shave the cost though, you would probably be satisfied with a HD6870 or GTX560.

Edit: Looking back on it again, I also like inzone's; even though it starts out with weaker graphics, it is a little more future-resistant, with the much better mobo. Watch for the rebate-game there too though, on the PSU.
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June 21, 2012 10:18:01 PM

Newegg note combos:

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ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS Black SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM
Item #: N82E16827135204
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
-$2.00 Instant


$18.99
$16.99
1

NZXT Source 210 S210-001 Black “Aluminum Brush / Plastic” ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
Item #: N82E16811146075
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy


$39.99
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Western Digital Caviar Blue WD5000AAKX 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
Item #: N82E16822136769
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
-$10.00 Instant


$84.99
$74.99
1

HIS H687FN1GD Radeon HD 6870 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card
Item #: N82E16814161389
Return Policy: VGA Standard Return Policy
-$10.00 Instant
$10.00 Mail-in Rebate Card


$169.99
$159.99
1

AMD Gift - Dirt3 Game Coupon - OEM
Item #: N82E16800995114
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
-$49.99 Saving


$49.99
$0.00
1

Antec EarthWatts EA-500D Green 500W ATX12V v2.3 / EPS12V 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply
Item #: N82E16817371035
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
-$35.00 Instant


$89.99
$54.99
1

G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10600) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F3-10600CL9D-4GBNT
Item #: N82E16820231253
Return Policy: Memory Standard Return Policy


$22.99
1


Intel Core i5-2310 Sandy Bridge 2.9GHz (3.2GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 2000 ...
Item #: N82E16819115089
Return Policy: CPU Replacement Only Return Policy
BIOSTAR TZ68K+ LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
Item #: N82E16813138344
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
-$45.00 Instant
-$18.00 Combo
$15.00 Mail-in Rebate


$304.98
$241.98
Subtotal: $611.92

This is a middle ground build. It comes with solid picks. An i5,z68,6870 build is a good all around build. The corners cut in the build are in the Mobo as it is very basic and 4 gigs of ram. Once the mobo goes in there is not much to think about and you can add ram as you get more money.

If you really don't care for the z68 you can also consider some of the mobo above or have a look at http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168....

If you just want a gaming rig, the i3 7850 is a good way to go. Kamen_BG build is very close to mine but he puts more money into ram than the psu. You can add to ram not to the PSU. So I went another way there.
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June 21, 2012 10:42:33 PM

I've been kicking around an i5 build that is under $600. I know there are some corners cut, but the basic needs of a mid range gaming system is met.

Intel Core i5 - 2300 Sandy + Gigabyte H61 Combo - $237

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

PowerColor Radeon HD 6850 - $140 (cheapest 256bit GPU I can find)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Rosewill Case + 450w PSU - $65

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

G.Skill Ripjaw X Series 8GB (2x4) RAM - $44

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HDD 320GB Sata 6 - $70

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Samsung DVD Burner Sata - $15

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Total including shipping: $581.72


Notes:
Can probably swap around the Case and a better PSU to find a combo you like and still keep it under $600
If you try for an HD 6870 need to upgrade to a PSU with two 6 pin connectors.


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June 21, 2012 11:43:33 PM

NO to the ancient Rosewill PSU! Their new ones have all tested well, but that ancient decrepitude is what trashed their reputation years ago. A quality modern PSU has full range active PFC (no little voltage switch) and some level of 80+ certification for efficiency. Seasonic, Antec, Corsair, XFX, and Enermax/LEPA are among the better brands. With plans for a powerful GPU, you'll want 500W-550W for a single card, or 650W-750W for a pair.
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June 22, 2012 12:40:15 AM

The builds with i5 intel quads and weaker graphics cards are not better gamers

But at the $600 price point the AMD FX 4100 is better value than any intel build

AMD FX 4100 quadcore $110
AM3+ Mb with a 970 series chipset $90
2 x2 gig of 1600 MHz RAM $30
Radeon 6870 $160
500 watt psu $50
Antec 300 case , HAF 912 $60
DVD drive $18
500 gig hard drive $75

~ $590



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June 22, 2012 1:09:02 AM

Only the first of those two statements is true. You don't want to weaken the graphics card in a gamer. As to the second,

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/fx-4100-core-i3-210...
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/328620-28-2105-4100
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/327305-28-4100

I think that ought to be enough. When you throw in power consumption and meaningful upgrade room, Intel is the way to go. Yes, my primary rig is AMD, and does well enough; so far. The day it falters, I'll be planning out an Intel build.

Edit: Actually, the actual comparison benchmarks here are even better: http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/amd-fx-812...

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June 22, 2012 1:21:55 AM

Onus said:
Only the first of those two statements is true. You don't want to weaken the graphics card in a gamer. As to the second,

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/fx-4100-core-i3-210...
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/328620-28-2105-4100
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/327305-28-4100

I think that ought to be enough. When you throw in power consumption and meaningful upgrade room, Intel is the way to go. Yes, my primary rig is AMD, and does well enough; so far. The day it falters, I'll be planning out an Intel build.


Im not sure what the two forum links prove , but the first one very obviously supports my belief that the AMD FX 4100 is a better option than a dual core intel . In the DX 11 games performance at stock speeds is identical between the i3 and FX .
Once you factor in the higher application performance of the FX and the ability to overclock it by around 30% [even on the stock cooler] its an obvious bargain buy . It stomps the intel pretty much everywhere and it costs less .

The exception is some older DX9 game engines , that are unlikely to be used to build future games .

Power consumption for an FX 4100 is about 40 watts higher than the i3 and thats at maximum load , not in general use and not while gaming . This is not an amount you'd ever notice on your power bill , but if anyone was concerned they could turn off a very low wattage light bulb

Also interesting is the recent $500 system builder marathon where they used a budget intel dual core . It tanked completely in gaming despite the claims that its a superior gaming processor to the AMD line . Oops! how embarrassing for the intel fanboys

The FX 4100 is a better option than an intel dual core
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June 22, 2012 1:33:12 AM

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-cpu-review-o...

The AMD FX-4100 doesn't show up untill the fifth level of this gaming cpu chart. The i3-2100 which is $119.99 and only $10 more than the 4100 and is in the second level.
If your going to talk price point and value then all of these Intel cpu's are at the same level as the 4100 and cost less.
G-860-$89.99
G-850-$87.99
G-640-$78.99
G-630T-$74.99
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June 22, 2012 1:34:05 AM

Outlander_04 said:
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The exception is some older DX9 game engines , that are unlikely to be used to build future games.

You mean like Metro 2033, where the FX choked?

Outlander_04 said:
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Also interesting is the recent $500 system builder marathon where they used a budget intel dual core . It tanked completely in gaming despite the claims that its a superior gaming processor to the AMD line . Oops! how embarrassing for the intel fanboys
The FX 4100 is a better option than an intel dual core

They used a CELERON!!! Sheesh...
And yes, I think most everyone has agreed it was too weak, particularly for general use; but it wasn't an i3, nor even a Pentium.
Read the discussion that followed the build article, it was quite good.

Oh, and the conclusion of my first link:
"The good news is that AMD fans can still enjoy games on a capable machine without spending a ton of cash. With that established, though, getting in the door with an LGA 1155-based platform costs about the same and yields a more consistently-good experience. We've seen enthusiasts throw blame all over the place: review sites aren't picking the right benchmarks, developers aren't spending enough time optimizing for AMD's architecture, and Intel is squelching innovation. But it comes down to this: when a new game you’ve been waiting for gets installed on your machine, finger-pointing won't help you enjoy it any more if it behaves like Metro 2033, demonstrating between 27% and 33% higher minimum frame rates on the Core i3-2100. Even a $200 FX-8120 won’t solve your problem; our tests show that chip acts just like the FX-4100 in gaming environments.

Today, Intel's LGA 1155 platform remains the best bet for a gaming rig. And not only for its budget-oriented performance, which is great, but also for its potential. Start with a cheap Core i3 and an inexpensive discrete GPU. Then, upgrade later to an Ivy Bridge-based chip and a faster graphics card without imposing any sort of bottleneck. SLI and CrossFire are both viable with a fast-enough CPU (even splitting PCI Express connectivity between two x8 slots), and the $180 Core i5-2400 is a gaming beast that AMD's overclocked processors cannot touch.

AMD simply cannot counter those advantages right now. We must look to the Piledriver architecture and hope that our current assessment can be reevaluated later this year."

...absolutely does NOT "very obviously supports my belief that the AMD FX 4100 is a better option than a dual core intel."
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June 22, 2012 1:42:57 AM

inzone said:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-cpu-review-o...

The AMD FX-4100 doesn't show up untill the fifth level of this gaming cpu chart. The i3-2100 which is $119.99 and only $10 more than the 4100 and is in the second level.
If your going to talk price point and value then all of these Intel cpu's are at the same level as the 4100 and cost less.
G-860-$89.99
G-850-$87.99
G-640-$78.99
G-630T-$74.99



That chart is the reason some people need to be hugely embarrassed .

The celeron used in the system builder marathon has identical cores. The difference is less cache which wont make much difference in gaming and ,as I said earlier, it tanked .
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June 22, 2012 1:47:58 AM

Onus said:
You mean like Metro 2033, where the FX choked?



Really?

Have a look at the two charts metro , high presets and the Radeon 6850 and 6950 .
There is No discernible difference

Yes if you turn details to minimum and run at low resolution the intels individually stronger cores make higher FPS . But no one runs a gaming machine like that .
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June 22, 2012 2:01:17 AM

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what's wrong with that.? :heink:  :/ 
absolutely nothing.



That was my cousin... Alex... he thinks hes a pro LOL (he isnt at all) i wouldnt say that because I dont know much about chipsets :lol:  sorry for him I was making cappuccino
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June 22, 2012 2:02:30 AM

Here we go again, someone trying to stand behind the FX. The FX is a good value if you can overclock it over 4.5GHz. You must remember though, FX-4100 is a new architecture, it has 2 physical cores with two modules per core that share resources. The i3 has hyper-threading and faster IPC on those cores. The majority of games on the market don't use more than 2 cores anyway. i3 is better, it's been proven time and time again.
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June 22, 2012 2:08:53 AM

Outlander_04 said:
The builds with i5 intel quads and weaker graphics cards are not better gamers

But at the $600 price point the AMD FX 4100 is better value than any intel build

AMD FX 4100 quadcore $110
AM3+ Mb with a 970 series chipset $90
2 x2 gig of 1600 MHz RAM $30
Radeon 6870 $160
500 watt psu $50
Antec 300 case , HAF 912 $60
DVD drive $18
500 gig hard drive $75

~ $590

Your gpu pick is no better than mine. If that fx got you into a 7850 Id be all ears.
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June 22, 2012 3:50:37 AM

tf_sketch said:
I'm looking to build a gaming pc for around $600. At first I was going with amd, but after some research I leaning more towards the 2120 i3. I have no idea what motherboard to get with this processor. I'm pretty sure I'm getting the radieon 6870( I believe thats right, to hard to look on my phone). If anyone can help me finish this build, or even completely change it would be awesome. I just don't want to spend much over $600 because I still need a monitor. Also I plan to edit some, but my highest priority is gaming.



Live by a MicroCenter?
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June 22, 2012 4:19:28 AM

loops said:
Your gpu pick is no better than mine. If that fx got you into a 7850 Id be all ears.

Except the 4100 would bottleneck a 7850 even when overclocked.. Yes ive had one and yes it will.
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June 22, 2012 6:11:29 AM

stickg1 said:
Here we go again, someone trying to stand behind the FX. The FX is a good value if you can overclock it over 4.5GHz. You must remember though, FX-4100 is a new architecture, it has 2 physical cores with two modules per core that share resources. The i3 has hyper-threading and faster IPC on those cores. The majority of games on the market don't use more than 2 cores anyway. i3 is better, it's been proven time and time again.


Interesting , but completely wrong .

The FX has two modules which are the equivalent of an intel core . Each module has one component [ the integer unit or main maths processor ] replicated . So two modules , four integer units . AMD calls the integer units "cores" because they can and do execute a separate thread .
The original intention was to create a kind of hardware hyperthreading that actually worked . Intels hyperthreading [ two processes running in one integer core ] has a long history of HARMING gaming performance , and while they seem to have fixed that in the current generation of processors hyperthreading is not a substitute for extra processing cores . Its a way of squeezing a little more out of your processors idle time .

As for performance comparisons between the FX 4100 and i3 2100 . There have been many . More often than not the processors are quite close . In some situations the FX dominates. In others the i3 is ahead.
In some gaming situations the ipc of the intels two cores can increase fps .
But hat doesnt translate in to real world computers because computers want to run your game , your network , your AV and firewall . And a host of other processes . The ability to execute more threads pays off . The FX wins .

And you can overclock it while the i3 is stuck where it always will be
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June 22, 2012 6:20:00 AM

loops said:
Your gpu pick is no better than mine. If that fx got you into a 7850 Id be all ears.


It might be possible if you were to compromise a little on things like case [ spend $40 instead of $60 ],
HDD capacity [320 gig instead of 500 gig] ,
quality of the RAM [ $22],
and add a few $ to the budget .



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June 22, 2012 6:43:53 AM

Guys, I already posted a build above for $619 with an i3 and an HD 7850. I guessed that would be a no-brainer...
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June 22, 2012 6:48:28 AM

Thomas_89 said:
Guys, I already posted a build above for $619 with an i3 and an HD 7850. I guessed that would be a no-brainer...



It would be , except the FX 4100 is still a better processor and you could build with it at that same budget [ which is more than the OP wanted to spend]
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June 22, 2012 7:02:43 AM

That's irrelevant, most games are GPU dependent. Even BF3 runs fine on an i3 and I'd imagine on an FX-4100 too. In my opinion Intel has the more mature platform right now and Tom's recommends the i3 as well. And even if you want the FX to be the better processor, which it perhaps could be, you'll need to overclock it to beat the i3 at stock.
Thats sums it up for me, but to each his own :) 
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June 22, 2012 7:11:20 AM

Thomas_89 said:
That's irrelevant, most games are GPU dependent. Even BF3 runs fine on an i3 and I'd imagine on an FX-4100 too. In my opinion Intel has the more mature platform right now and Tom's recommends the i3 as well. And even if you want the FX to be the better processor, which it perhaps could be, you'll need to overclock it to beat the i3 at stock.
Thats sums it up for me, but to each his own :) 



If you had read the comparison of the two processors on this site you'd know that neither dominates at stock speeds.

Strangely Toms didnt bother to compare the OC performance but if they had the FX would have out performed the i3 quite handily
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June 22, 2012 7:33:26 AM

I have read the comparison, and I didn't say any of the two dominates at stock. I just said that the FX might be better than the i3 (at gaming) only if you overclock it quite a bit. Even then there are titles that run better on the i3. I also said I find the Intel platform more mature overall, and its upgrade path is vastly better than AMD's. Upgrade to any i5 and no consumer AMD processor can touch you.

edit:, right now the i3 is on sale at microcenter. With that deal you get so much bang for your buck no-one can honestly recommend the FX-4100.
http://www.microcenter.com/search/search_results.phtml?...
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June 22, 2012 8:13:09 AM

I use the AMD phenom 975 for gaming and you could put together a 600 dollar build that will suit your needs with that!
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June 22, 2012 9:12:12 AM

Outlander_04 said:
There are plenty of games where the FX 4100 is considerably better
http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1766/14/

as for the intel platform being "mature" .... do you mean its obsolete in a few months time?

No of course not and you know that just as well as I do. Anyway, you think the FX-4100 is better, I think the i3 2120 is better. Let's just leave it at that shall we.
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June 22, 2012 10:27:30 AM

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Intel i3-2120 = FTW
FX-4100 = FTLoss...

period.

Right to the point. There's no clearer way to say it. Cherry-picking benchmarks serves only to distort this simple truth. Some may find it sad, but it is no less true.
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June 23, 2012 3:06:43 PM

Before it gets out of hand OP I hope there is plenty of info here for you to make your choice ... Intel or AMD.

At that price point your getting value whichever way you go.

Mind you ... if you chose an Intel build and then look for a faster cpu a bit down the track there are much more powerful i5 and i7's there you can simply drop in.

an AMD build currently doesn't give you a comparable upgrade cpu much beyond a mid range i5 (even overclocked).

I hope that little bit of advice helps.

Good luck.
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