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My first build - €1400 Gaming rig

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June 21, 2012 5:58:10 PM

Ok so far I've tried my best reading articles and the like to assemble a decent set of components for the decent price of €1400

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Approximate Purchase Date: Somewhere next month

Budget Range: around €1400 (or less at equal performance)

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, Dual boot w/ Linux, Surfing Web

Parts Not Required: keyboard, mouse, speakers, OS

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: http://www.alternate.be (I know it's dutch, but it makes it easy to simply go to their shop and pick it all up)

Country: Belgium

Parts Preferences: Intel & Nvidia mostly

Overclocking: Yes

SLI or Crossfire: Maybe

Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080 or more


Parts I assembled already:
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CPU:
Intel Core i5-2500K
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU Cooling:
Cooler Master Hyper212 Evo
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

MotherBoard:
MSI P67A-GD65 (B3)
http://images17.newegg.com/is/image/newegg/13-130-573-T...$S125W$

RAM:
Corsair 8 GB DDR3-1600 Kit (2x4Gb)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Graphics Card:
MSI N670GTX-PM2D2GD5/OC
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
=> is it possible/advisable to OC this, or will this give negligible benefits for the hassle it'll take?

Casing:
Aerocool X-Warrior Black Edition
https://www.alternate.be/html/product/Behuizingen_Midi_... (not on newegg)

Power:
OCZ ModXStream Pro 600W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

DVD-R/RW/DL:
Sony Optiarc AD-7280S-0B
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Monitor:
LG IPS235V-BN (23" 1920x1080)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Hard Disks:
1xSamsung 2TB HD204UI (Barracuda 5400rpm)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
=> This one for data storage, such as music, video, downloads etc.
1xSamsung 1TB HD103SJ (Spinpoint F3 7200rpm)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
=> For Storing my games and application installs
1xOCZ 60Gb SSD OCZSSD2-2VTXE60G
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
=> for the OS (30b for windows, 30 for Linux in dual boot)


So, any toughts on this configuration?

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June 21, 2012 6:17:51 PM

That's a good start but you should definitely switch to Ivy and go with a Z77 motherboard and i5-3570K. Is there a reason you need that many HDs? I'm not sure you can buy that many on that budget. Or do you have those already?

Try this:

Case: Antec 1100 - € 114,90
PSU: Corsair TX650 - € 99,90
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD3H - € 169,90
CPU: 3.4GHz Intel Core i5-3570K - € 229,90
Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo - € 29,99
RAM: G.Skill Ripjaw X 1600MHz 1.5V - € 57,90
SSD: 128GB OCZ Vertex 4 - € 124,90
HD: 2TB Seagate Barracuda 7200 RPM - € 144,90
Optical: Lite on Bulk DVD Burner - € 19,99
Video Card: EVGA Geforce GTX 670 - € 439,00

Total: € 1.431,28

This build doesn't include OS or monitor but it does include an Ivy Bridge CPU and 670 video card.
June 21, 2012 10:30:17 PM

The build I proposed is €1385, that's with all 3 hard disks, and a monitor. I absolutely need to buy a monitor as I don't have one yet. Optionally I could leave out the 2Tb drive for now for a €100 save. However the configuration you propose is €200 more (counting the monitor) which is an aweful lot for what I see as a minor upgrade to the CPU and MoBo.

Any reason as to why I should take Ivy over Sandy, from what I've read they perform almost the same.
Why would I take the EVGA card over my current MSI for €40 more?
What's wrong with the case I picked, warranting a recommendation of a case over twice as expensive?
Comparative RAM and PSU, sure, but what's wrong with the ones I picked? Is the OCZ not supplying enough power to run this rig, or simply not stable enough?
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June 21, 2012 11:14:06 PM

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The build I proposed is €1385, that's with all 3 hard disks, and a monitor. I absolutely need to buy a monitor as I don't have one yet. Optionally I could leave out the 2Tb drive for now for a €100 save. However the configuration you propose is €200 more (counting the monitor) which is an aweful lot for what I see as a minor upgrade to the CPU and MoBo.


Yeah I realize that was a bit more - the currency conversions usually throw me off a lot.

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Any reason as to why I should take Ivy over Sandy, from what I've read they perform almost the same.


Ivy will support newer hardware like PCI Gen 3 - and if you're using the 670, you'll want that extra speed increase.

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Why would I take the EVGA card over my current MSI for €40 more?


Better warranty and support department, comes with some nice overclocking tools as well.

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What's wrong with the case I picked, warranting a recommendation of a case over twice as expensive?


I'm not sure that case is one of the most reputable brands on the market. Maybe try something like this: http://www.alternate.be/html/product/Behuizingen_Midi_T...

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Comparative RAM and PSU, sure, but what's wrong with the ones I picked? Is the OCZ not supplying enough power to run this rig, or simply not stable enough?


Some Corsair products are really great (TX PSUs, Vengeance RAM), and then there's things they make that aren't so great and XMS RAM is one of them as they have one of the highest fail rates on the market. The OCZ PSU should be fine but check the OEM before you buy it. Seasonic generally makes the best PSUs on the market - if you can get one of theirs, that's what I'd recommend.

Maybe try this configuration:

Case: Antec 300 - € 64,90
PSU: Corsair TX650 V2 - € 89,90
Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Pro 4 - € 124,90
CPU: 3.4GHz Intel Core i5-3570K - € 229,90
Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo - € 29,99
RAM: 8GB G.Skill Ares 1333MHz 1.5V - € 54,90
SSD: 128GB Crucial M4 - € 119,90
HD: 2TB Samsung Ecogreen F4 - € 99,90*
Optical: Lite On DVD Burner - € 16,99
Video Card: EVGA Geforce GTX 670 - € 439,00

Total: € 1.270,28

That's almost € 200 cheaper which still leaves you room to get monitor - add OS license and that's it.
June 22, 2012 7:11:40 AM

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Ivy will support newer hardware like PCI Gen 3 - and if you're using the 670, you'll want that extra speed increase.
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Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Pro 4 - € 124,90

Ok so the GTX670 supports the PCI3 3.0, and so does the Z77 chipset zith an Ivy processor, but the MoBo doesn't seem to have any PCIe 3.0 slots on it. Doesn't that take away the big selling point of taking Ivy with a Z77? If not, and the Z77 with a lack of PCIe 3.0 slots is still the way to go, would it be worth to pick the ASRock Z77 Extreme4 for an extra €20 and get SLI support for if I ever want to add another graphics card?
On the note of the SLI: if in the future I want to upgrade my graphics card, can I buy the then current card and run it in SLI with the GTX670, or do I have to throw out the GTX670 and replace it?

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SSD: 128GB Crucial M4 - € 119,90

How about the Corsair CSSD-F120GB3-BK or CSSD-F120GB3A. They're both a bit cheaper and seem to boost write speeds of over 500Mb/s, as opposed to the Crucial with 175Mb/s. Or is this another case of a high failure rate Corsair product I should avoid?

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RAM: 8GB G.Skill Ares 1333MHz 1.5V - € 54,90

What about G.Skill 8 GB DDR3-1600 Kit? Same series I believe, only clocks at 1600 instead of 1333

June 22, 2012 5:45:57 PM

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Ok so the GTX670 supports the PCI3 3.0, and so does the Z77 chipset zith an Ivy processor, but the MoBo doesn't seem to have any PCIe 3.0 slots on it. Doesn't that take away the big selling point of taking Ivy with a Z77? If not, and the Z77 with a lack of PCIe 3.0 slots is still the way to go, would it be worth to pick the ASRock Z77 Extreme4 for an extra €20 and get SLI support for if I ever want to add another graphics card?


Maybe go with the Extreme 4 instead - all Z77 motherboards should have at least 1 PCI 3.0 slot on it.

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How about the Corsair CSSD-F120GB3-BK or CSSD-F120GB3A. They're both a bit cheaper and seem to boost write speeds of over 500Mb/s, as opposed to the Crucial with 175Mb/s. Or is this another case of a high failure rate Corsair product I should avoid?


The problem there is the Sandforce controller on the drives you're looking at is more prone to failure than the anything else. I know Corsair makes a couple of drives based on the Marvell controller but I don't know the exact models or anything.

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What about G.Skill 8 GB DDR3-1600 Kit? Same series I believe, only clocks at 1600 instead of 1333


That's fine - just make sure it's the low profile version. You won't notice the difference between 1333 or 1600 so either one is fine.
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