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First timer- gaming pc with a $1500 budget

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June 22, 2012 4:18:13 AM

Approximate Purchase Date: sometime between July 15-20

Budget Range: Before rebates $1500.(willing to go to $2000 if by doing so gives a great performance boost)

System Usage from Most to Least Important: PC gaming, surfing the internet, adobe illustrator and photoshop

Parts Not Required: I need to buy everything

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: newegg.com

Country: USA

Parts Preferences: I want to keep this case in my build http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... COOLER MASTER CM Storm Series Trooper (SGC-5000-KKN1) Black Steel / Plastic ATX Full Tower Computer Case

Overclocking: Maybe

SLI or Crossfire: Maybe

Monitor Resolution: 1680x1050

Additional Comments: It’s my first time building a pc so I am open to any suggestions. My goal is to try to build a gaming pc that can run somewhat new games like skyrim and Diablo III on about high or max settings and have other windows open at the same time(internet) without crashing. My current build is actually a little over $2000 so I would appreciate it if someone can help me find a cheaper alternative that won’t hinder the performance much. I was also wondering if the parts will be compatible with each other(sorry I am inexperienced to this sort of thing)
I also don't have a mouse, keyboard, or monitor so if you want to suggest a good type or name brand I would appreciate it.

COOLER MASTER CM Storm Series Trooper (SGC-5000-KKN1) Black Steel / Plastic ATX Full Tower http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811119245

ASUS Sabertooth X79 LGA 2011 Intel X79 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

VisionTek 900491 Radeon HD 7970 3GB 384-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


CORSAIR Professional Series HX850 (CMPSU-850HX) 850W ATX12V 2.3 / EPS12V 2.91 80 PLUS SILVER Certified Modular Active PFC ...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000 BX80637I53570K
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

OCZ Agility 3 AGT3-25SAT3-120G 2.5" 120GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CORSAIR Vengeance 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CML16GX3M4A1600C9 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Western Digital Caviar Green WD20EARX 2TB SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


LG Black 12X Super Multi Blue with 3D Playback & M-DISC Support SATA WH12LS39 LightScribe Support - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 64-bit – OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
June 24, 2012 7:14:32 AM

A good rule of thumb is never spend more on your GPU than on your CPU. Of course this is just a rule of thumb but it makes sense. You don't want to get a GPU that can do a ton but your CPU can't keep up with it.

That's a pretty sweet GPU you have there, the Radeon HD 7970, but I would want to match it up with something that would more likely utilize all of its potential. At least the i7-3770K or better yet the i7-3930K.

Either that or you might want to think of drawing back on your GPU and bring up your CPU to meet a little in the middle at like a i7-2600K.

If you are really looking for the best which it looks like you are trying, an improvement on you RAM would be cheap and yet effective. Get the Corsair C7's instead of the C9's. Only $65 more for the fast RAM of that form. Mushkin makes a cheaper C7 at $140.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... Corsair
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... Mushking

Great idea getting the SSD for specific programs or your OS.

If you wanted to save money I think you could step back your MOB, especially if you step back on your GPU a little. Actually now that I look at it, you MOB is LGA 2011 and the i5 you have picked out is LGA 1155. They wouldn't fit each other anyways.

My compatible suggestion for you is this:
i7-2600K $290
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
and a ASRock Z77 Extreme6 $175
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

You could still get a pretty sweet GPU to complement those or even SLI/Crossfire 2 with the saved money.

I didn't notice and CPU cooling in your line up. You'd probably do best to at least have an after market heat sink fan for your CPU with high res gaming. If you are hoping to over clock at all you might even want to look into water cooling if necessary.
At the least:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
At the most:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

One last thought. I personally like the OCZ ZX Series 850W. It's $5 cheaper than Corsair and is fully modular which will help air flow in your case, though maybe your PSU choice which is mostly modular would fit perfectly in your case choice.

That's my thoughts for now. Look at the stuff and let me know if you have any thoughts or questions.
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June 24, 2012 7:35:06 AM

D-Gold said:
Approximate Purchase Date: sometime between July 15-20

Budget Range: Before rebates $1500.(willing to go to $2000 if by doing so gives a great performance boost)

System Usage from Most to Least Important: PC gaming, surfing the internet, adobe illustrator and photoshop

Parts Not Required: I need to buy everything

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: newegg.com

Country: USA

Parts Preferences: I want to keep this case in my build http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... COOLER MASTER CM Storm Series Trooper (SGC-5000-KKN1) Black Steel / Plastic ATX Full Tower Computer Case

Overclocking: Maybe

SLI or Crossfire: Maybe

Monitor Resolution: 1680x1050

Additional Comments: It’s my first time building a pc so I am open to any suggestions. My goal is to try to build a gaming pc that can run somewhat new games like skyrim and Diablo III on about high or max settings and have other windows open at the same time(internet) without crashing. My current build is actually a little over $2000 so I would appreciate it if someone can help me find a cheaper alternative that won’t hinder the performance much. I was also wondering if the parts will be compatible with each other(sorry I am inexperienced to this sort of thing)
I also don't have a mouse, keyboard, or monitor so if you want to suggest a good type or name brand I would appreciate it.

COOLER MASTER CM Storm Series Trooper (SGC-5000-KKN1) Black Steel / Plastic ATX Full Tower http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811119245

ASUS Sabertooth X79 LGA 2011 Intel X79 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

VisionTek 900491 Radeon HD 7970 3GB 384-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


CORSAIR Professional Series HX850 (CMPSU-850HX) 850W ATX12V 2.3 / EPS12V 2.91 80 PLUS SILVER Certified Modular Active PFC ...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000 BX80637I53570K
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

OCZ Agility 3 AGT3-25SAT3-120G 2.5" 120GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CORSAIR Vengeance 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CML16GX3M4A1600C9 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Western Digital Caviar Green WD20EARX 2TB SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


LG Black 12X Super Multi Blue with 3D Playback & M-DISC Support SATA WH12LS39 LightScribe Support - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 64-bit – OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

That cpu won't work with that board. You have a socket 1155 cpu and a socket 2011 board. Find a socket 1155 board (Z77) and match it up with the 3770K for your adobe if you think you will be doing that much photo and video editing, otherwise go with the 3570K,
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June 24, 2012 8:52:57 AM

ygryan said:
A good rule of thumb is never spend more on your GPU than on your CPU. Of course this is just a rule of thumb but it makes sense. You don't want to get a GPU that can do a ton but your CPU can't keep up with it.

That's a pretty sweet GPU you have there, the Radeon HD 7970, but I would want to match it up with something that would more likely utilize all of its potential. At least the i7-3770K or better yet the i7-3930K.

This is rubbish. The Core i5 3570K is all you need and will easily keep up with that GPU. Only consider an i7 if you are doing heavy video/photo editing.
For your budget I would get this:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($33.50 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($129.37 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($46.99 @ Newegg)
Hard Drive: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($239.99 @ Amazon)
Hard Drive: Crucial M4 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($119.00 @ B&H)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card ($399.00 @ NCIX US)
Case: Cooler Master Storm Trooper ATX Full Tower Case ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair 750W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($84.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus BW-12B1ST/BLK/G/AS Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 (64-bit) ($136.99 @ B&H)
Total: $1569.80
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
Note: you could do with a lower wattage PSU, this one will allow SLi in the future though.
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June 24, 2012 7:22:46 PM

Ygr is wrong. Even an i3-2100 won't bottleneck at a GTX 670.
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June 24, 2012 7:35:01 PM

the only card I can think of that will be bottle necked by a 3570k would be a gtx 690
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June 24, 2012 7:40:01 PM

No, it wouldn't. The 3770k OCs the same as 3570k.
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June 24, 2012 9:33:58 PM

Thank you all for your correction about bottle necking. I guess, as Thomas_89 says, my rule of thumb apparently is "rubbish".

I agree as well that 850w is unnecessary. A 750w would suite you fine even with sli/crossfire and oc. Save some money there. The two PSU suggestions Corsair & PC Power Supply are great. They are not modular which I just happen to like to keep the inside of my case a little less cluttered. A good 750w that is modular is the OCZ ZT $110/$90:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
or if you like Corsair, Corsair Pro HX750 $150/$130
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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June 25, 2012 8:13:43 AM

ygryan said:
Thank you all for your correction about bottle necking. I guess, as Thomas_89 says, my rule of thumb apparently is "rubbish".

Actually, your rule of thumb isn't that bad, it provides a guideline towards a balanced system. It was the second part that was rubbish. The thing is though, since nothing out there currently is significantly better at gaming than the i5 3570K it's a waste of money to spend more on the CPU for a gaming build. But spending more on the GPU does have a large impact. Also, gamers (on a budget) probably don't want a balanced build ;) 
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