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June 22, 2012 5:31:36 PM

Approximate Purchase Date: (Within the next week)

Budget Range: $1000-$1100 (not counting rebated because they are not always guaranteed)

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, running video editing software, movies, and of course web surfing.

Parts Not Required: Don't need to include a keyboard, mouse, or monitor. I do need Windows 7 included in price.

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Any major computer store, preferably newegg to cut down on shipping.

Country: USA

Parts Preferences: Any of the major brands out there.

Overclocking: Maybe

SLI or Crossfire: No

Monitor Resolution: 1920x1200

Additional Comments: As for the pc itself, just an effective build for my purposes is what i want. I will be getting a SSD later on, just not at the moment.

I have been doing research and looking up products online, i have been looking at some sales, and i have come up with what i think is a solid build.

Case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Optical drive: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HDD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Flash media: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Ram: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

OS: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU/MB Combo: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

With shipping and coupon applied, the total is $1,048.33. Try to keep the price as low as possible.

Main Question: I know it is not good to cheap out on a PSU, but i found this and it has good reviews, it is on sale and it is from a decent company. Should i swap this with a little more expensive one?

NOTE: Please don't include rebated prices since they are not always expected, and i would like the rebate money to try and come to me as a surprise when i mail them all out.

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June 22, 2012 5:42:55 PM

Here is a PSU to consider:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$59.99 after rebates and promo codes.

You also may want to think about replacing the HAF 912 with the Antec 300, as it is significantly cheaper atm.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Some low profile RAM in case you want to add an aftermarket CPU cooler later on.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Also, you can save $10 by getting the non-OC version of the 7850, then overclock it yourself.
June 22, 2012 6:04:23 PM

I really don't want to rely on rebates for a better price, if i do and i end up getting better parts and the computer comes out to be $1150, with rebates though $1080, i most diffidently wont get back all rebates and if i end up only getting like $30.00 worth in rebates back, then i spent more than i wanted to spend. If it is necessary to get that PSU over the rosewill i have, then i will do it.

I like the case i have, for $5 its no big deal.

Now i did not think about a lower profile ram if i OC for a cooler, however i don't think the g.skill is much taller than the one you mentioned. The specs on newegg didn't tell me the height of either of them.

And as for the GPU, i looked online and the one i chose is $250 and the cheapest one ,besides a powercolor, is the HIS one and it is $245.
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June 22, 2012 6:58:55 PM

Are you looking to overclock?
June 22, 2012 7:14:49 PM

starburst said:
Main Question: I know it is not good to cheap out on a PSU, but i found this and it has good reviews, it is on sale and it is from a decent company. Should i swap this with a little more expensive one?

NOTE: Please don't include rebated prices since they are not always expected, and i would like the rebate money to try and come to me as a surprise when i mail them all out.
PSUs:
This is solely my personal opinion so toss it aside if you like. Listen to what others have to say also...but I personally cannot endorse rosewill as a PSU supplier. They typically offer an economy line of products and I would only use their products if I was going for a budget build under $600. The quality is hit or miss. I think they are making efforts to improve (especially recently) but they basically sell cheap stuff. I had one of their power supplies before and ended up returning it because I felt the quality was substandard. I have had card readers from them which just fell apart. (However that was 3 years ago) This one may have good ratings but that maybe in part due to the price.

A power supply is thee most important part of your build. I would strongly recommend to go with a quality vendor such as Corsair, Antec, or Seasonic. There are some other good ones out there but those 3 stand out in my mind. XFX is good also as theirs are manufactured by Seasonic.

Rebates:
That is a good position to have on rebates. Don't factor it into the cost but if they come in it is just icing on the cake. I have had very good results with them myself.
June 22, 2012 11:19:26 PM

starburst said:
I was looking at the newegg top deals page and i came accross this ram.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

For only $3 extra it seems like its a faster ram. I looked at my motherboard and im pretty sure it can take it.
I love GSKILL ram. It is a good company and their ram typically has a broad spectrum of compatibility.

You may want to read this article that was just published 2 days ago:
5 Overclocking Records Broken With G.SKILL DDR3 Memory at Computex
http://www.tomshardware.com/us/sponsored/g_skill-DDR3-o...

Far as WHICH ram to pick...there is 3 ways to do this:

1.) go to the website for your manufacture's motherboard and look at the supported list of Ram model #s.

I am not endorsing this particular motherboard but just as example take a look at this wesbite, click on the 'memory support list' and then download the spreadsheet to find all of the offically supported models of RAM.

http://www.gigabyte.us/products/product-page.aspx?pid=4...

2.) You can look at reviews on newegg for people who have purchased the motherboard you are looking at then see what RAM they used with it. Or you can do that vice-versa and check out Memory reviews and see what motherboards they put it in.

3.) When you browse for Ram on Newegg many of them will say 'Z77 supported Ram'. Z77 is one of the more popular motherboard chipsets out right now. I would chose your motherboard first then do searches for RAM which advertises to be compatible with that chipset.

Of these 3 options I recommend #1 the most.

The voltage requirements for the motherboard are important too however you can find that information next the the supported memory list.
June 23, 2012 2:20:04 AM

Ok i think i found a good RAM, one is a ddr3 1866 and the other 4 are ddr3 1600s. Is there much difference between the 1866 and 1600, doesn't look like its noticeable.
June 23, 2012 2:44:00 AM

starburst said:
Regarding the PSU that is the response i wanted, and that convinced me that i should get a little more expensive one.

I know a lot of people have been requesting that i get this PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...



That specific PSU is actually pretty decent at that price point. Here's a review from Hardware Secrets (they are one of a handful of sites who do comprehensive PSU testing)

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/881

Anytime you want to know *anything* about any power supply, just check out Real Hard Tech's power supply database:

http://realhardtechx.com/index_archivos/Page541.htm

Enjoy your new build!
June 23, 2012 2:44:48 AM

starburst said:
Ok i think i found a good RAM, one is a ddr3 1866 and the other 4 are ddr3 1600s. Is there much difference between the 1866 and 1600, doesn't look like its noticeable.

It really isn't. It would be very difficult to detect any difference in gameplay.
June 23, 2012 3:55:01 AM

ok, i added the ddr3 1600 to my cart then. Thanks phensen for the PSU links! I'll be sure to use them in the future.

Here is my improved build:

Case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Optical drive: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HDD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Flash media: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU/MB: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

OS: Windows 7

Promo codes:
Case: $5 off
PSU: $10 off
MB: 10% off
OS: $20 off.
Total: $48.50

Total price: $1012.42

I have been looking to swap the antec case with this case: only because of the looks honestly: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...(Computer%20Cases%20-%20ATX%20Form)-_-NZXT-_-11146025&AID=10440897&PID=3938566&SID=

Any suggestions on anything?
June 23, 2012 4:57:34 AM

One of my best friends has had that NZXT Apollo case now for about 6 maybe 7 years. It has been ultra reliable. All of the lights, buttons, and functions work perfect with no signs of wear (even the silver finish on the power button). It looks great too. It has an Alienware like look to it.

My only knock against it is that it is an old case. The Power Supply is mounted at the top of the case rather than the bottom. So you would basically have cables drooping down on top of the other components unless you tied them up well. It is also lacking some more modern features like cable management holes / grommets, bottom mounted power supply, less fans with larger blades.

However if that is something you are willing to live with it is a great case. It looks much better in person than on the site.



June 23, 2012 5:02:16 AM

Yeah i'll see what i can do about the cable managment. This looks like my build, i will probably be ordering it soon. Maybe this weekend.
June 23, 2012 5:10:23 AM

Card Reader

I would recommend this SABRENT card reader over the Rosewill one. I have had some bad experience with some the rosewill card readers. One fell part on me. The other one just felt really cheap and the cards did not fit that well in it (I can assure you I had the cards interfaced the correct way).

I got my wife this SABRENT one years ago and it still works great today with no problems and the fit and finish is excellent.

The SABRENT model is a 1-68 card reader while the Rosewill one is 1-40. Same price and both have free shipping.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Another alternative is Nippon Labs. I have not used their card readers but their other products are fairly good. This leads me to believe their card readers would likely be good also.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Look at the Number of 1 egg reviews for the 3 products:

Rosewill 22%
Sabrent 20%
Nippon Labs 11%

Now that I look at the reviews it appears that Nippon is the best. It cost twice as much as the others but you are probably getting what you pay for. 56% of buyers gave it 5 eggs, and 22% gave it 4 eggs.
June 23, 2012 5:29:25 AM

Yeah yeah, that nippon looks like the best. I read a customers review that said he/she didn't like the rosewill one. For an extra 3 bucks for a more durable one, i guess ill add it in.
June 23, 2012 6:17:18 AM

You may want to consider XFX for a videocard. I have never owned one but I have heard really good things about them. They cost a little more than average but they have really nice packaging, their cards look great, and they have a really strong warranty and customer support program.

Check out their support video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6xWK8G1Abs

If you type in the key word 'xfx support' on youtube you can view several other of their videos which show their facilities, support team, registration program, and other things.

If you have a case with a window their double dissipation cards look really nice.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Don't let that deter you from Sapphire because they have a good product too with excellent build quality and a price that is hard to beat. It is just something to consider.

Company website:
www.xfxforce.com
June 23, 2012 6:27:57 AM

i appreciate your thought, but its $10 more and there is really nothing to convince me into getting it over the sapphire. I actually think the sapphire one looks better anyway. About xfx's RMA, they say that on youtube that they are diffidently the best, but they are probably just as equal to the other major brands out there.
June 23, 2012 11:47:21 AM

starburst said:
i appreciate your thought, but its $10 more and there is really nothing to convince me into getting it over the sapphire. I actually think the sapphire one looks better anyway. About xfx's RMA, they say that on youtube that they are diffidently the best, but they are probably just as equal to the other major brands out there.

One thing to consider is that XFX's Double D cards cover overclocking in their warranty, so if you plan to do heavy voltage tweaking, that might be a factor to consider.
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