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June 23, 2012 8:18:22 PM

Hey guys, im trying to build my brother a gaming computer, he's autistic and likes to play games all the time, and my mother said recently he's been watching alot of pc games and wants to play them, me being into pc gaming ive decided to build him a nice gaming computer that will play all the games he wants without problems. But i just wanted to know if these parts are all good, if you have a suggestion to replace a part for a better one please dont hesitate to do so, it would be much appreciated. And money is not a problem so feel free to add more expensive parts if you wish, as long as they are better and more beneficial to gaming, or the best buy basically.

Processor: Intel i5-3570K
Motherboard: Gigabyte-z77-UD5H
RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws x Series 8GB DRR3-1600Mhz
Processor cooler: Corsair H80 (Might change to Hyper EVO as he wont be doing OC's)
Video Card: ASUS GTX 680 2GB
HDD: 1TB Caviar Black 7200RPM HDD
Power Supply: Corsair TX850V2 (Might change to Modular one for less clutter)
Keyboard: Razer BlackWidow Mechanical (Might change to Lycosa instead)
Case: Cooler Master 690 II Advanced Full Tower

I already have a monitor, mouse for him and some 2000RPM LED case fans so those wont be needed.
But thanks in advance for the advice/opinions/help.
June 23, 2012 8:55:27 PM

If you're not going to overclock you don't need any aftermarket fan - you can run off the stock fan and be fine. The i5-3570K is a great CPU but if you don't need it drop it to the i5-3540 and you'll be good. The motherboard is an excellent choice - it's the upgraded version from the one I have.

However I think I'd pick a different GPU as I seriously hate the monster 3-card slot design of the Asus 680. Maybe try something like this instead: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I'd think I'd also switch that case to something a bit more modern - maybe something like this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
June 23, 2012 9:01:09 PM

Thanks for the advice g-unit1111. But i have a couple questions, first will the processor hold up just fine in full load with just stock cooler?, and also how much of a downgrade will a GTX670 be from a GTX680?, The GTX680 i choose is not tri-slot though, its not the ASUS DCUII one that is tri-slot, its just the 2-slot design ASUS GTX680, this one.

http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX38589

And btw that case does look nice, is it better cooling and better quality though?
For case i was also looking at this one
http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX32402
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June 23, 2012 9:11:44 PM

i would look into a gaming case that has some good wire management..it make it easer on your build. i would swap the 680 for a 670 it not much slower then the 680 in benchmarks and use the extra money on a ssd. on my build asus sabertooth with a slower i-5 ib i put in a 128g intel 520 the best money i spent on the build. running windows and and the ssd from cold boot to surfing the net or gaming is 10 sec. games do open faster if there running from the ssd.
the only thing i add is use ram like the aries or vengance lp. tall heat spreader and cpu coolers dont mix. just look at the mb memory guild and online for ram that been tested on the mb...save you from pulling your hair out. also it better to buy two kits of ram of the same type. so if your using 8g now and need 8 more in a few months it may be hard to find the same ram kits. sometime it better to buy 4 dimms at the same time that on the memory guild. if your not going to oc or do light oc any of the 212 or clone type heat sinks will work fine.
June 23, 2012 9:24:41 PM

Thanks for the advice smorizio.

But yeah right now im torn, i have no idea which case is the better buy, so far there's the

CM 690 II Advanced
Carbide 500R
Graphite 600T

And i have an empty HAF 932 i can use as well.

I might go down to a GTX670 though and give him an Sli in the future whenever he needs it for some beast game. Been reading reviews and it seems the difference between a GTX670 and a GTX680 is very minimal, not enough to justify the insane price increase. So im gonna go with the one g-unit1111 suggested.

So now i need to get an SSD and install windows on it with a few games. Which SSD do you think will be best buy, is your 128g intel 520 a good one?, if so then i might get that one. Not really a big fan of the fancy brand ones likes OCZ Agility/Vertex, heared too many problems with them.

And for RAM, well if i go with the H series water cooling, i dont think high profile RAM would be an issue, but if i got Hyper212 EVO should i get low profile?, id be leaning towards the Vengeance lp ones, still 8GB though, i dont think 16GB will be necessary for gaming any time soon.

But thanks for the help so far guys, really appreciate it. Keep em coming
June 23, 2012 9:27:54 PM

670 vs 680 vs amd gpu.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-670-rev...
depends on the game and the video size your running the 670 stock has about 88 percent of the 690. toms said in most games it was 5 percent slower then the 690. it going to come down to price vs performance.
myself i go with the 670 right now as both amd and nvida are working on there next cards that going to be faster by a whole lot.
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/346081-33-radeon-8000...
http://www.maximumpc.com/article/home/nvidia_unveils_gp...
June 23, 2012 9:34:57 PM

GTX670 it is, looks like there's really not much of a difference. And my brother is only gonna be playing at 1080p so its more than enough id say. But ahh i cant wait for those new cards to come out, that will be the time i finally upgrade my own rig lol.

Now i only have to decide on what
Case:
Carbide 500R
Graphite 600T
CM 690 II Advanced
HAF 932 Advanced

SSD: No idea yet

RAM:
G.SKill Ripjaws x Series 8GB
Vengeance LP 8 GB

Building computers is not complicated but it sure is hard because of all this decision making.
June 23, 2012 9:40:13 PM

the stock fan uses plastic legs they tend to weaken and let the cpu fall off the cpu chip over time. the best cooler on the market use a back plate. or at less some metal screws. cases with larger fan...will have less sound as the larger fans will spin slower and have the same air movement. with case it going to come down to the color and shape you like..myself i go with the all black cases with thick steel. if you think your brother might do lan games...may want a case with a handle. with ssd look at the brand and the defects that people have..intel and samsung 830 line are not the fastest on the market but there the ones that wont ship a product with firmware issues or have a drive turn into a brick. look at toms hardware ssd review and online review for brands and how they hold up. a lot of computer vendor with ssd by brand x ssd and just re label it. just buy an ssd that will be sized right to the amount of games you want to run. with any ssd windows is going to take a 30-60g chunk plus you need room for the ssd to do it garbage collection. just rember when you install the ssd have the ssd on the intel 6g sata ports and have the ports set to achi mode before you put windows on the ssd. it also help to have the data connector to the other hard drive unplugged so you dont install windows to your data drive.
swap our the rip for the ariers ram same vendor just there new line. the newer ram now is going to be using newer samsug chips that run at 1.5v and under. (20mm) ram the down side is the newer ram runs a little slower then the older ram. (cl11) vs cl9). the newer gskil ram. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
says it rated for both intel 2 and 3 gen cpu.
June 23, 2012 9:54:23 PM

Ahh that's alot of info there, thank you very much. I will come back and revive this topic once ive read reviews on SSD's and RAM's, need to get more knowledge on this, atm i just dont have the time, need to get back to work lol. Ill come back later on. But again thank you for the info, its really helpful, stil got plenty of time to think about this though, going to get the parts on saturday.
June 23, 2012 11:01:53 PM

cyborg34572 said:
GTX670 it is, looks like there's really not much of a difference. And my brother is only gonna be playing at 1080p so its more than enough id say. But ahh i cant wait for those new cards to come out, that will be the time i finally upgrade my own rig lol.

Now i only have to decide on what
Case:
Carbide 500R
Graphite 600T
CM 690 II Advanced
HAF 932 Advanced

SSD: No idea yet

RAM:
G.SKill Ripjaws x Series 8GB
Vengeance LP 8 GB

Building computers is not complicated but it sure is hard because of all this decision making.


Go with the Graphite 600T out of all of those - I have that same case and it's great - a bit big but it can house the biggest GPUs, PSUs, heat sinks - you name it.

As far as SSD goes - get something like this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

And then for RAM you'll want something low profile like this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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