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June 24, 2012 6:02:28 AM

EDIT: Posted new version of build at bottom

Hey guys! First build! Would you kindly give me some advice on whether I should change anything to maximize cost-effectiveness, and if everything is compatible.

I'd like to be able to play all modern games on High or Max settings.

Some extra info:
-I already have an OS
-I already have a mouse


PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Microcenter)
Motherboard: Asus P8Z68-M Pro Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($99.00 @ Newegg)
Memory: Patriot Gamer 2 Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($25.99 @ Newegg)
Hard Drive: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($67.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: Asus Radeon HD 7850 2GB Video Card ($249.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($39.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair 600W ATX12V Power Supply ($83.24 @ Amazon)
Monitor: Acer G235HAbd 23.0" Monitor ($129.55 @ CompUSA)
Keyboard: Microsoft SIDEWINDER X4 Wired Gaming Keyboard ($47.52 @ B&H)
Total: $933.26
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)

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Approximate Purchase Date: This week!!

Budget Range: ~$900

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming

Parts Not Required: Mouse, OS

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: N/A

Country: USA (more specifically, Washington state)

Parts Preferences: N/A

Overclocking: Yes

SLI or Crossfire: No

Monitor Resolution: 1920 x 1080



Thanks you guys! Your recommendations are all very appreciated :D 

EDIT: New Build

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-2500K 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($169.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($33.50 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($127.86 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($46.99 @ Newegg)
Hard Drive: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($67.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7850 2GB Video Card ($249.99 @ Amazon)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair 600W ATX12V Power Supply ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($21.98 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Acer G235HAbd 23.0" Monitor ($129.55 @ CompUSA)
Keyboard: Microsoft SIDEWINDER X4 Wired Gaming Keyboard ($47.52 @ B&H)
Total: $995.35
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
June 24, 2012 6:10:54 AM

"I do not live near a Microcenter"
CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Microcenter) ?

If that is in store only you may have to move things around or up the budget.

If it all fits tho, build looks good.

If you want more space than a micro case but clean looks also have a look at:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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June 24, 2012 6:11:26 AM

Get the Pro3 Gen3 Z77 board for $10 more.
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June 24, 2012 6:23:58 AM

I'd chip in an extra 20 bucks to get 8 gigs of ram.

if you are short on cash lose the gaming keyboard to get the z77 board, the CPU pricing issue, and the ram, since you already have a keyboard and mouse. that's kind of an "extra" you can pick up later or watch for sales, not a core component.

You would probably also be fine with a 500W PSU if you need to get the price lower
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June 24, 2012 6:29:35 AM

It's nice, but not exactly what I'd do at that price. The biggest difference here would be my choosing an i3 over an i5.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i3-2120 3.3GHz Dual-Core Processor ($116.99 @ SuperBiiz) The i5 won't help you a whole lot in terms of frames per second over the i3.
Motherboard: MSI Z77A-G43 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($99.99 @ Newegg) Newer, more feature rich, about the same price too.
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($43.99 @ Newegg) Memory's cheap; you don't need 8GB for strictly gaming, but it's a small portion of your budget.
Hard Drive: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($67.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7850 2GB Video Card ($249.99 @ Amazon) This Sapphire is clocked higher - feel free to stick to the ASUS though.
Case: Rosewill CHALLENGER ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg) This case is larger, roomier, and will stay cooler than that Fractal. It'll also take that ATX mobo I chose.
Power Supply: SeaSonic 520W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($75.98 @ Newegg) Don't skimp on the PSU - the Corsair GS series' build quality is only so-so, compared to Seasonic's stellar reliability.
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($21.98 @ Newegg) Gonna need this if you plan on installing that OS you've got.
Monitor: Acer G235HAbd 23.0" Monitor ($129.55 @ CompUSA)
Keyboard: Microsoft SIDEWINDER X4 Wired Gaming Keyboard ($47.52 @ B&H)
Total: $903.97
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)

Alternatively, what you could do is ditch the i5 and use that money to get a better video card and leave everything (save for the optical and PSU) else as-is.
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June 24, 2012 6:42:08 AM

Thanks for the replies everyone! Carefully read all the replies and in my opinion I think mousseng's adaptation of the build is the best. I'm going to go to sleep now, probably going to order tomorrow. Again, thanks everyone :D 
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June 24, 2012 7:00:14 AM

There are a number of games that are CPU limited where an i5 will help. the OP also wants to overclock which goes completely out the window with a locked i3. its not a bad way to go, but its going to have to be replaced much sooner than an overclockable i5. And there plenty of room to get there.

I'd still ditch the gaming keyboard, and no one needs a DVD drive to install an OS. All though its good to have. And while seasonic is good I'd never pay that for a 520W when there are great, reliable manufacturers cheaper.
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June 24, 2012 8:53:18 AM
June 24, 2012 9:10:32 PM

bigcyco1 said:
Total is $888 not including keyboard

I would venture to say this is probably the best setup for the OP - I did totally forget that he wanted to overclock, so anything with an unlocked i5 would likely be preferable over what I posted. The Rosewill Challenger is a great case, and the Rosewill Hive 550 is a solid PSU - and there's really nothing that can compare at that price point. [AnandTech's review on Hive 550, HWSecrets' review] The 6950 is easily comparable to a 7850 - although it's got a noticeably higher max TDP of 200W (70 more than the 7850). [Anand's comparisons]
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June 24, 2012 9:49:55 PM

mousseng said:
I would venture to say this is probably the best setup for the OP - I did totally forget that he wanted to overclock, so anything with an unlocked i5 would likely be preferable over what I posted. The Rosewill Challenger is a great case, and the Rosewill Hive 550 is a solid PSU - and there's really nothing that can compare at that price point. [AnandTech's review on Hive 550, HWSecrets' review] The 6950 is easily comparable to a 7850 - although it's got a noticeably higher max TDP of 200W (70 more than the 7850). [Anand's comparisons]
true but i wasn't able to fit a heat sink in OP budget and until they could afford one i strongly recommend they didn't OC i know some say it's o.k. to do on stock cooling but i highly disagree.P.S. The PSU is actually the Rosewill Hive 750W overkill i know :lol:  but was the way the combo comes
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June 24, 2012 11:37:09 PM

bigcyco1 said:
true but i wasn't able to fit a heat sink in OP budget and until they could afford one i strongly recommend they didn't OC i know some say it's o.k. to do on stock cooling but i highly disagree.

It's really not a big deal - most people I know don't OC their processor immediately anyway, they'll usually wait a few weeks. By then he can have something really solid like a Frio or Ninja 3. If he wants to, I'm sure he could push a few hundred MHz on stock, but it's a bit inadvisable.

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P.S. The PSU is actually the Rosewill Hive 750W overkill i know :lol:  but was the way the combo comes

Oh, I didn't notice that - I just remember seeing a combo like that with the 550. A bit of overkill, but it's still a better deal than getting the case and S12II 520 separately. All the Hive PSUs are pretty good.
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June 26, 2012 3:00:57 AM

Thanks for all the responses, guys. I had a discussion with one of my friends and he convinced me to extend my budget to $1000 to support the Intel i5 2500k, so here is the new build. Again, your advices are all very appreciated.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-2500K 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($169.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($33.50 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($127.86 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($46.99 @ Newegg)
Hard Drive: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($67.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7850 2GB Video Card ($249.99 @ Amazon)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair 600W ATX12V Power Supply ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($21.98 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Acer G235HAbd 23.0" Monitor ($129.55 @ CompUSA)
Keyboard: Microsoft SIDEWINDER X4 Wired Gaming Keyboard ($47.52 @ B&H)
Total: $995.35
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)

EDIT: The IceQ Radeon HD 7850 at $224 after mail in rebate should be better than for me, right? Since I'd be overclocking. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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June 26, 2012 5:33:59 AM

kenxftw said:
Thanks for all the responses, guys. I had a discussion with one of my friends and he convinced me to extend my budget to $1000 to support the Intel i5 2500k, so here is the new build. Again, your advices are all very appreciated.
Total: $995.35

Bits of advice then:
- The i5-2500k will actually cost about $40 more than listed on PC Part Picker, as you do not live near a Microcenter.
- Do not expect rebates to work - they are tedious and notoriously unreliable.
- Exchange your case/PSU for the Rosewill Challenger/Hive 750 combo that was posted by bigcyco1. It costs about the same, you get a better case with more airflow, as well as a better PSU. The Corsair CX600-V2 is actually a 500W power supply - the way they handled the testing of the CX-V2 line allows them to advertise higher wattages than they output.

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EDIT: The IceQ Radeon HD 7850 at $224 after mail in rebate should be better than for me, right? Since I'd be overclocking.

More advice: don't trust marketing. Just because it's marketed as being a cooler card doesn't mean it is. However, in this case the marketing is actually spot on - the IceQ X is significantly cooler than reference 7850, whereas Sapphire's 7850 OC is just a bit warmer than reference. So yes, the IceQ X 7850 is a much better choice for you. Even if the rebate fails, it'll still be about the same as the Sapphire.
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June 26, 2012 6:22:19 AM

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Bits of advice then:

- Exchange your case/PSU for the Rosewill Challenger/Hive 750 combo that was posted by bigcyco1. It costs about the same, you get a better case with more airflow, as well as a better PSU. The Corsair CX600-V2 is actually a 500W power supply - the way they handled the testing of the CX-V2 line allows them to advertise higher wattages than they output.



Thank you VERY MUCH for your fast response time and good answers! My only concern right now is that one of my friends who has built before say that the Hive 750 PSU would "burn my house down", so are you sure that the Hive 750 is okay?

Thanks again in advance!

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June 26, 2012 6:32:04 AM

I agree with mousseng
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June 26, 2012 7:54:50 AM

There's also an article on HWSecrets and one on AnandTech about the Hive PSUs - they all come to the conclusion that while not made of top-tier components like Seasonic-based units, it is reliable and can actually provide the advertised wattage and amperage.

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Rosewill-HIVE-650-W-Power-Supply-Review/1460
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5674/rosewill-hive-550w

Those are for the 650/550W versions, but they're all the same platform inside; there's just a few differences (that determine wattage/amperage). Rule of thumb is that the brand of a product might be able to tell you something about it - but don't take that as anything more than speculation. Not everything from a reliable brand will be good, and not everything from a sketchy brand will be bad. Researching the specific product you're looking at will tell you that.
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June 26, 2012 8:07:01 AM

mousseng said:
I would venture to say this is probably the best setup for the OP - I did totally forget that he wanted to overclock, so anything with an unlocked i5 would likely be preferable over what I posted. The Rosewill Challenger is a great case, and the Rosewill Hive 550 is a solid PSU - and there's really nothing that can compare at that price point. [AnandTech's review on Hive 550, HWSecrets' review] The 6950 is easily comparable to a 7850 - although it's got a noticeably higher max TDP of 200W (70 more than the 7850). [Anand's comparisons]

Actually, the XFX 550W is comparable at its price range.
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June 26, 2012 8:18:41 AM

azeem40 said:
Actually, the XFX 550W is comparable at its price range.

Yes, but what I was meaning was within the context of the combo. The cost of a Challenger and Hive 550 is $120 ($125 with the XFX 550), but the Challenger/750W combo is only $110.
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June 27, 2012 5:50:57 PM

kenxftw said:
Thanks for all the responses, guys. I had a discussion with one of my friends and he convinced me to extend my budget to $1000 to support the Intel i5 2500k, so here is the new build. Again, your advices are all very appreciated.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-2500K 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($169.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($33.50 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($127.86 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($46.99 @ Newegg)
Hard Drive: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($67.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7850 2GB Video Card ($249.99 @ Amazon)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair 600W ATX12V Power Supply ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($21.98 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Acer G235HAbd 23.0" Monitor ($129.55 @ CompUSA)
Keyboard: Microsoft SIDEWINDER X4 Wired Gaming Keyboard ($47.52 @ B&H)
Total: $995.35
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)

EDIT: The IceQ Radeon HD 7850 at $224 after mail in rebate should be better than for me, right? Since I'd be overclocking. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


This is a good build. You have some solid feed back. You may get some advice to drop the CPU cooler for now an try a IBi5 +z77 mobo. That is fine but the 2500k is a kick ass CPU and you don't need to move IB as there will be little diffidence in doing so.
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June 27, 2012 5:52:10 PM

For $10 more, get the PSU mouse suggested.
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June 29, 2012 3:42:40 AM

Best answer selected by kenxftw.
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