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April 30, 2012 11:05:20 PM

So the 660m is Kepler, and the 670m is based on Fermi.
I'm looking to buy the new ASUS G75VW, and I'm not sure which one I should grab - 660m or 670m?
660m produces less heat, gives more battery life and is new tech. The 670m should give better performance, produce more heat and reduce the battery life compared to the 660m.

I need some insight from someone who knows for sure, someone who is knowledgeable. Which one should I grab for the ASUS G75VW? Could I just buy the 660m and OC it to stock 670m? I could do the same with 670m and get even better perfomance, no?

Sorry for the clutter, hope someone can give me an answer and settle this for me :p 

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April 30, 2012 11:30:30 PM

Are they even out that is if they are ever coming out? TROLL
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April 30, 2012 11:34:45 PM

what's the price difference?
notebookcheck doesn't have 670m reviews yet so i can't say for sure, but judging by the specs it should be about 10% better than the 660m.

Personally, i'd choose the 660m. It uses significantly less power and should be more overclockable than the 670m. Laptops with this kind of gpu power are hot and anything to get them cooler is welcome.

That said, you mentioned battery...
you can't game on battery, not at all. In fact most gaming laptops have around a 2 hour battery life without gaming. Everything is throttled on battery, and if you turned that off you get maybe half an hour out of it.

edit:
@plasmid
this is the 'm' series we are talking about. Yes they are out.
http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-670M.72...
http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-660M.71...
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May 1, 2012 12:04:22 AM

slicedtoad said:
what's the price difference?
notebookcheck doesn't have 670m reviews yet so i can't say for sure, but judging by the specs it should be about 10% better than the 660m.

Personally, i'd choose the 660m. It uses significantly less power and should be more overclockable than the 670m. Laptops with this kind of gpu power are hot and anything to get them cooler is welcome.

That said, you mentioned battery...
you can't game on battery, not at all. In fact most gaming laptops have around a 2 hour battery life without gaming. Everything is throttled on battery, and if you turned that off you get maybe half an hour out of it.

edit:
@plasmid
this is the 'm' series we are talking about. Yes they are out.
http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-670M.72...
http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-660M.71...


I'm not looking to game on battery haha, was just stating the facts :p 
The 660m ASUS comes about NOK 1000 cheaper than the 670m ASUS, which is about £100. Yes, I live in Norway.
So I should go for the 660m and overclock it? I'm usually very indecisive when it comes to things I know little about, I almost need someone to tell me "get this one!" haha
May 1, 2012 12:10:26 AM

Plasmid said:
Are they even out that is if they are ever coming out? TROLL


Nope, not trolling, if that's what you were impying.
a b U Graphics card
May 1, 2012 12:18:34 AM

yeah the 660m is definitely the better buy there.
I'm not sure if you should oc it though. Check temps when you get, laptops have a far smaller oc headroom than desktops.

I have a 580m which can play bf3 around high settings at 1920x1080. According to notebookcheck, the 580m about 28% better than the 660m. It was also insanely expensive ($700 usd) and i only got it cause i was playing at 1920x1080. What res are you playing at?
May 1, 2012 12:35:02 AM

slicedtoad said:
yeah the 660m is definitely the better buy there.
I'm not sure if you should oc it though. Check temps when you get, laptops have a far smaller oc headroom than desktops.

I have a 580m which can play bf3 around high settings at 1920x1080. According to notebookcheck, the 580m about 28% better than the 660m. It was also insanely expensive ($700 usd) and i only got it cause i was playing at 1920x1080. What res are you playing at?


The ASUS G75 Im looking to buy has a Full HD screen, so I'll be playing on that. Mostly WoW, SC2, BF3, Skyrim and Diablo when that comes out. I used to play BF3 all the time on PS3, and I reckon even medium on a computer is the same or even better than the PS3, graphic-wise.

There is a guy who's currently playing with this exact computer and the 660m, he testing it by overclocking it and posting results at notebookreviews. These are his results so far http://3dmark.com/3dm11/3313741;jsessionid=vzdbegu2332w1eqki2ztjp221

I have no chance of decoding this, so I don't know if this is good or not.
a b U Graphics card
May 1, 2012 1:35:34 AM

...next time you should probably post in the mobile forum just so we don't get so many people thinking you're talking about desktop cards.

do you have any other links to this guy's experiments? a PCmark score doesn't say too much without context.
May 1, 2012 1:44:56 AM

slicedtoad said:
...next time you should probably post in the mobile forum just so we don't get so many people thinking you're talking about desktop cards.

do you have any other links to this guy's experiments? a PCmark score doesn't say too much without context.


Oh, I'm sorry! Thought I posted in the right section when it said "Graphics Cards".
I don't know, but here is the whole thread: http://forum.notebookreview.com/asus-reviews-owners-lou...
May 1, 2012 1:49:45 AM

Seppy said:
Those are desktop GPUs :p 
I'm talking about the mobile 660m and 670m :) 

oh ok :pt1cable: 
a b U Graphics card
May 1, 2012 1:51:43 AM

this section is fine. your question is between the two topics so either place makes sense. It's just that posting in the mobile section stops some people getting confused.
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May 1, 2012 3:25:17 AM

The 670m is the same as the 570m, just with higher clocks. However, I would choose kepler because of a marginal performance difference and it uses much less power!
a b U Graphics card
May 1, 2012 3:28:43 AM

agreed
May 1, 2012 5:07:09 PM

amuffin said:
The 670m is the same as the 570m, just with higher clocks. However, I would choose kepler because of a marginal performance difference and it uses much less power!


Haha, I'm starting to recognise your name amuffin :p 
I'm gonna follow your advice and go with the 660m. Means I'm gonna have to wait one more week, but whatever!
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May 1, 2012 7:33:10 PM

I'm on top of this too, because I am going to buy the g55vw.
May 1, 2012 8:06:02 PM

amuffin said:
I'm on top of this too, because I am going to buy the g55vw.


What kind of FPS do you think the 660m can pull in Skyrim, Diablo, BF3, Crysis etc, on medium-high settings? Will it run em at ultra at all?
a b U Graphics card
May 1, 2012 8:31:33 PM

bf3 will run lower with an average of less than 30fps on ultra. Online that is. Probally closer to 20-25fps. That using my 580m as a baseline and subtracting 25ish percent. Turning it down to medium should help a lot. I'm think around 45 avg fps but i could be wrong.

Diablo should run on ultra or very close. The only problem i have is if i turn up the sound channels, but i think this is just a glitch in the beta.

Skyrim should run on high with 45-50fps.

i'm assuming this is with a mobile i7 (and not an i5 which is dual core).
May 1, 2012 8:34:00 PM

slicedtoad said:
bf3 will run lower with an average of less than 30fps on ultra. Online that is. Probally closer to 20-25fps. That using my 580m as a baseline and subtracting 25ish percent. Turning it down to medium should help a lot. I'm think around 45 avg fps but i could be wrong.

Diablo should run on ultra or very close. The only problem i have is if i turn up the sound channels, but i think this is just a glitch in the beta.

Skyrim should run on high with 45-50fps.

i'm assuming this is with a mobile i7 (and not an i5 which is dual core).


It's with the new i7 3610QM, yes :) 
May 1, 2012 10:47:20 PM

slicedtoad said:
what's the price difference?


I was wrong in saying that the 660m version was £100 cheaper, sort of. The 670m version actually comes with 2 GB more RAM and 250 GB more HDD space. The 660m version is still £100 cheaper, but I also get less RAM and less storage space with it.
a b U Graphics card
May 2, 2012 12:53:46 AM

2GB more ram... from 4 to 6 or 6 to 8?
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May 2, 2012 3:16:56 AM

The G75VW has a few versions. He is stalking about the actual laptop ram, the 660M version is ~$100 cheaper and has 8gb of ram with 500GB hdd, while there is another version with the 670M that has 12gb of ram and a 750GB hdd.
a b U Graphics card
May 2, 2012 3:39:05 AM

yeah I was talking about laptop ram not vram. What gpu has 6 or 8GB?

He said 2GB though so I was kind of confused since lga 1155 usually has ram in increments of 4 since it supports dual channel. (i suppose the 12GB is 3x4GB though)

I suppose I should've actually looked up the laptop... but yeah, didn't feel like it at the time.

anyway, if it's 8 to 12 GB and 250GB, I'd still say it isn't worth it. You don't need more than 8GB and the 250GB isn't much. That laptop also has two hdd slots so you can always add more storage space. (unless you are using an ssd as well)
May 2, 2012 7:55:09 AM

slicedtoad said:
yeah I was talking about laptop ram not vram. What gpu has 6 or 8GB?

He said 2GB though so I was kind of confused since lga 1155 usually has ram in increments of 4 since it supports dual channel. (i suppose the 12GB is 3x4GB though)

I suppose I should've actually looked up the laptop... but yeah, didn't feel like it at the time.

anyway, if it's 8 to 12 GB and 250GB, I'd still say it isn't worth it. You don't need more than 8GB and the 250GB isn't much. That laptop also has two hdd slots so you can always add more storage space. (unless you are using an ssd as well)


Sorry, the 660m version has 6 GB RAM and 500 GB storage space. The 670m version has 8 GB RAM and 750 GB storage space. Both HDDs are 7200 RPM. None of the two has 12 GB RAM, that one costs even more.
May 2, 2012 10:47:12 AM

From NVidia website (http://www.nvidia.in/object/geforce-gtx-670m-in.html):

"Gear up with NVIDIA GeForce GTX 670M dedicated graphics for double your gaming performance1 and extra long battery life with NVIDIA® Optimus™ technology. Charge ahead with up to 35% faster gaming than GeForce GTX 660M."
May 2, 2012 5:07:55 PM

yujinn said:
From NVidia website (http://www.nvidia.in/object/geforce-gtx-670m-in.html):

"Gear up with NVIDIA GeForce GTX 670M dedicated graphics for double your gaming performance1 and extra long battery life with NVIDIA® Optimus™ technology. Charge ahead with up to 35% faster gaming than GeForce GTX 660M."


I am becoming so unsure about this haha... I don't really care about battery life and heat (I reckon there won't be much heat on the ASUS G75 anyway, with its cooling system and all). I'm thinking 670m, but the new tech is just as appealing to me. ArRRRRGH
a b U Graphics card
May 2, 2012 11:05:18 PM

their 35% is marketing bs.
It should be around 11% according to notebookcheck, who I trust far more.

OCing would likely get the 660m past the 670m but I haven't tried it so I have no real way of knowing.

Anyway, choose what you want. OCing can be annoying with mobile chips, so if you want to avoid that then the 670m is a good choice.
May 3, 2012 9:13:36 PM

slicedtoad said:
their 35% is marketing bs.
It should be around 11% according to notebookcheck, who I trust far more.

OCing would likely get the 660m past the 670m but I haven't tried it so I have no real way of knowing.

Anyway, choose what you want. OCing can be annoying with mobile chips, so if you want to avoid that then the 670m is a good choice.


I've decided to go with Clevo/Sager instead, with the HD 7970m. Gonna last me a bit longer, I reckon.
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May 4, 2012 6:21:57 AM

You can always go with a lower end gpu, keep in mind sager lets you upgrade :) 
May 4, 2012 11:32:34 AM

amuffin said:
You can always go with a lower end gpu, keep in mind sager lets you upgrade :) 


I'm gonna play safe on this one :p  7970m is OCing to a desktop GTX 580, and it's pretty cheap
a b U Graphics card
May 4, 2012 8:56:58 PM

7970 is an awesome choice imo
May 7, 2012 2:32:57 PM

Seppy said:
I'm not looking to game on battery haha, was just stating the facts :p 
The 660m ASUS comes about NOK 1000 cheaper than the 670m ASUS, which is about £100. Yes, I live in Norway.
So I should go for the 660m and overclock it? I'm usually very indecisive when it comes to things I know little about, I almost need someone to tell me "get this one!" haha



hey, yeah i am also planning on buying this laptop. I actually saw a bunch of reviews and unboxings on youtube. In which one of them showed overclocking . the 670m reached a higher 3dmark score when overclocked and even the increase was more then the 660m. I ordered it from xoticpc. the price was cheaper for the 670m.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glhuEG5yqv8&list=UUJ9O0v...

he even does the heat tests which dont really show a great difference.
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May 7, 2012 2:53:58 PM

Any difference in battery life between the 660 and 670? I am waiting to purchase my g55vw!!!
May 7, 2012 5:12:44 PM

i dont think so..not unless u overclock it. it wont be that significant anyway. the battery life is already around 3 hours simple surfing. its a bad idea to game heavily without being plugged in.
May 30, 2012 2:07:23 AM

Ok 660m may give u more life but u wont bee playing on battery anyways heat wise yes but ur OC too a 670m put u in same bracket as having a 670 so u have controdicted ur self there the 670 puts more on offer if u r worried bout the heat Built a tower laptops r made to run hot my pc gtx570 runs at a standard temp of 75 degree's . the tech said to me they can go to 110degrees and still be fine
btw alienware sucks ballz m8 got 1 it spent half its life in the shop.





AKA IF UR WORRIED BOUT THE HEAT GET A COLLING MAT
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May 31, 2012 5:52:44 AM

Well essentially the 670M is a overclocked 570M.
October 4, 2012 5:16:07 PM

just saying i have a G75VW-RS72 gtx670m it has the dimand thermal compound on it. and i have over clocked it to 750ghz on core clocked it ran stable no artifacting and ran at 75C the original clock is 620ghz 70C. im not sure but my computer crashed resantly idk if it was the overclock or windows i put my hard drive into a 64 bit computer and it would not reconize windows but when it was booting it said something was wrong with the GPU. so i sent a RMA on it i think it was a defective anyway.
Anonymous
a b U Graphics card
February 6, 2013 10:09:20 AM

Hi there,

considered the GTX670M is about 15% over the GTX660M s. Notebookcheck and the GTX660M is a newer GPU architecture, so i would prefer GTX660M. You can easily overclock the GTX660M by 15% to be on par with GTX670M and the temperatures are still great, under 70°C on my MSI GE60 with core i7 and just the mentioned GTX660M.

Ondrej :sol: 
April 7, 2013 10:31:59 PM

Anonymous said:
Hi there,

considered the GTX670M is about 15% over the GTX660M s. Notebookcheck and the GTX660M is a newer GPU architecture, so i would prefer GTX660M. You can easily overclock the GTX660M by 15% to be on par with GTX670M and the temperatures are still great, under 70°C on my MSI GE60 with core i7 and just the mentioned GTX660M.

Ondrej :sol: 

I have an asia g75 with a gtx 670m and I love it. Who ever thinks its smart to overclock a laptop isn't the best pc guy you was to listen to. 1st of all my card gets to about 60 to 65C and thats nor ocerclocked and i will still have more power than a gtx 660m not only iss it dumb to overclock a mobile card its also not the best for your pc because it will cause stress on your battery and it will heat up on games. Also the 670best is 20% more powerful than a 660 but the only downssidde is that when my pc is not pluged in thee card sucks to muchh anergy when playing games and makes my screan flicker and my frames drop, but who in there right mind plays bf3 on a plain anyways.

a b U Graphics card
April 8, 2013 12:32:09 AM

Not that I should really be joining the necro party going on here, but I feel the need to correct the above post.

Overclocking a laptop is perfectly fine as long as you pay close attention to your temps. GPU temps all the way into the high 80s are within specs for most mobile GPUs. That means the manufacturer will replace them if they die within warranty. Granted, OCing does void that warranty but usually they don't check to see if you OCed unless it's obvious (if you physically burned or melted something).
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