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($800-1200) First Modern Build with new parts since ~2001

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June 26, 2012 12:52:08 AM

Approximate Purchase Date: 1 -2 weeks (unless suggested otherwise)
Budget Range: $800 - 1200 (USD)
System Usage from Most to Least Important: 3D Modeling and Rendering, 2D design/painting, CAD, Programming, Video editing, games
Parts Not Required: Monitor, Mouse, Keyboard, Hard-drives (might get an SSD on BFriday though), CD/DVD drive, Network Interface Card, OSes, ATX Case (but might get one if cooling needed since its old and not well ventilated)
Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Not sure
Country: USA
Parts Preferences: would prefer parts which play well with both Linux and Windows
Overclocking: Maybe
SLI or Crossfire: I guess I would like the option? Not sure if I can afford multiple quality GFX-cards
Monitor Resolution: Not sure, would like double screen though
Additional Comments: I would prefer Video-in/Video-out support and I will need to spend a slot (PCI or something) for a Serial-Port for embedded development. I am guessing I will need a LOT of ram too. I will be multibooting, using Windows 7 / XP / Vista, DOS, and Redhat and Ubuntu Linux. I realize only Win7 and Linux will be able to take advantage of the newer tech, but will still need to use the older platforms at times. Will be making indie videogames on this machine, using software including Blender, GIMP, Synfig, and Code::Blocks.


Thanks for the help, I have no idea where to start.
June 26, 2012 1:45:44 AM
June 26, 2012 1:56:56 AM

Im trying to figure out how to make this a bit cheaper...


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Processor: Intel Core i7-2600K Quad-Core - BX80623I72600K ($299.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Intel Z77 - Z77 Extreme4 ($134.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 670 - 02G-P4-2670-KR ($399.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Patriot 16GB (4 x 4GB) - PXQ316G1600LLQK ($94.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Antec - Three Hundred Illusi ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic M12II 650 650W - SS-650AM ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Storage Device: Western Digital SATA 6.0Gb/s 1TB - WD1002FAEX ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Processor Cooler: COOLER MASTER - RR-212E-20PK-R2 ($33.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1,263.92
Prices include shipping and discounts when available.

EDIT: Btw, I am suggesting a Z77 + 2600k due to overclockability, and the inclusion of Hyper Threading which is the main benefit of SandyBridge E. The 2600k I believe is a better investment unless overclocking is out of the question? The 2600k keeps up with the i7 3930k

Further EDIT: The 16GB is essential if your doing AutoCAD and other applications besides Gaming and General Use. Photoshop for example, if I load two of my bigger projects at once instantly caps my 8GB. You do NOT want pagefile to kick in.
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June 26, 2012 2:05:01 AM

i7-3820 @3.6 ghz-$300-http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GTX 670-$400-http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GA-Z68X-UD3H-B3-$120-http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Kingston hyper x-$50-http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

NZXT apollo black-$60-http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU-650watt corsair-http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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CPU - Good, BUT, you can squeeze out some more performance with a 3770k -- at 30$ more - http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/523?vs=551

GPU - Good but if you aren't that intense on gaming, you could opt for a cheaper 7870 at 320$

MOBO - Go for Z77, many new features( PCIE 3.0, USB 3.0, SSD Caching, Low voltage Memory) are only available when coupled with Z77.

RAM - Good, but 12Gb might be a tab bit safer -- your choice.

Case - Good

PSU - Good

Try to look into an SSD boot drive like a Crucial M4 - 73$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Remember Windows 7 Premium 64-bit for 100$.

And you forgot an HDD - Try Western Digital Caviar Black for 110$ - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
June 26, 2012 2:13:39 AM

revisionzero said:
Im trying to figure out how to make this a bit cheaper...


Quixby Permalink
Processor: Intel Core i7-2600K Quad-Core - BX80623I72600K ($299.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Intel Z77 - Z77 Extreme4 ($134.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 670 - 02G-P4-2670-KR ($399.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Patriot 16GB (4 x 4GB) - PXQ316G1600LLQK ($94.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Antec - Three Hundred Illusi ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic M12II 650 650W - SS-650AM ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Storage Device: Western Digital SATA 6.0Gb/s 1TB - WD1002FAEX ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Processor Cooler: COOLER MASTER - RR-212E-20PK-R2 ($33.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1,263.92
Prices include shipping and discounts when available.

EDIT: Btw, I am suggesting a Z77 + 2600k due to overclockability, and the inclusion of Hyper Threading which is the main benefit of SandyBridge E. The 2600k I believe is a better investment unless overclocking is out of the question? The 2600k keeps up with the i7 3930k

Further EDIT: The 16GB is essential if your doing AutoCAD and other applications besides Gaming and General Use. Photoshop for example, if I load two of my bigger projects at once instantly caps my 8GB. You do NOT want pagefile to kick in.


I'd say go with 3770k - It performs about 15% better than 2600k on Hyperthreading and currently, out of all Ivy and Sandy, 3770k is the fastest video encoder, beating out even the 3930k -- but whether or not justifies the price difference of 40$ from the 2600k is his choice.
June 26, 2012 2:19:18 AM

bctande1 said:
I'd say go with 3770k - It performs about 15% better than 2600k on Hyperthreading and currently, out of all Ivy and Sandy, 3770k is the fastest video encoder, beating out even the 3930k -- but whether or not justifies the price difference of 40$ from the 2600k is his choice.


Its really close...

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Core-i7-3770K-vs...
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Core-i7-3770K-vs...

Definitely a question of cost. I thought the 3930k beat out the 3770k though, so thanks for pointing that out bctande1

June 26, 2012 2:19:28 AM

i7-3930K for 569.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Asrock X79 Extreme3 for 209.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Sapphire Radeon HD 7850 for 239.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Seasonic S12II 620W 80 Plus Bronze Certified for 86.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
G.SKILL Ares 16GB (2x8GB) for 104.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Adds up to 1211.95

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June 26, 2012 2:20:56 AM
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With 7870 from GTX 670 - 7870 is still a very solid performance card.

**Processor** | [Intel Core i7-2600K Quad-Core - BX80623I72600K](http://quixby.com/part/Intel-BX80623I72600K) | $299.99 | Newegg
**Motherboard** | [ASRock Intel Z77 - Z77 Extreme4](http://quixby.com/part/ASRock-Z77_Extreme4) | $134.99 | Newegg
**Video Card** | [XFX Core Edition Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition - FX-787A-CNFC](http://quixby.com/part/XFX-FX-787A-CNFC) | $329.99 | Newegg
**Memory** | [Patriot 16GB (4 x 4GB) - PXQ316G1600LLQK](http://quixby.com/part/Patriot-PXQ316G1600LLQK) | $94.99 | Amazon
**Case** | [Antec - Three Hundred Illusi](http://quixby.com/part/Antec-Three_Hundred_Illusi) | $69.99 | Newegg
**Power Supply** | [SeaSonic M12II 650 650W - SS-650AM](http://quixby.com/part/SeaSonic-SS-650AM) | $119.99 | Newegg
**Storage Device** | [Western Digital SATA 6.0Gb/s 1TB - WD1002FAEX](http://quixby.com/part/Western_Digital-WD1002FAEX) | $109.99 | Amazon
**Processor Cooler** | [COOLER MASTER - RR-212E-20PK-R2](http://quixby.com/part/COOLER_MASTER-RR-212E-20PK-R2) | $33.99 | Amazon
**Total** | $1,193.92 | |
June 26, 2012 2:22:31 AM

fpoon said:
i7-3930K for 569.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Asrock X79 Extreme3 for 209.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Sapphire Radeon HD 7850 for 239.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Seasonic S12II 620W 80 Plus Bronze Certified for 86.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
G.SKILL Ares 16GB (2x8GB) for 104.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Adds up to 1211.95


3930k isn't worth the money. Few apps utilize all 6 cores and that results in poor single-threaded performance, bested by the 3570k sometimes. 3930k is a Hyperthreading monster but the for the money, it isn't worth it.
June 26, 2012 2:23:26 AM

fpoon said:
i7-3930K for 569.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Asrock X79 Extreme3 for 209.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Sapphire Radeon HD 7850 for 239.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Seasonic S12II 620W 80 Plus Bronze Certified for 86.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
G.SKILL Ares 16GB (2x8GB) for 104.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Adds up to 1211.95


The 7850 while cheaper I don't believe is worth the cost. If you do choose to go for a 7850, stick with XFX.


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Video Card: XFX Double D Radeon HD 7850 - FX-785A-CDFC ($269.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $269.99

That would however put my above build in the posters budget of $1200
June 26, 2012 2:25:32 AM

revisionzero said:
The 7850 while cheaper I don't believe is worth the cost. If you do choose to go for a 7850, stick with XFX.


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Video Card: XFX Double D Radeon HD 7850 - FX-785A-CDFC ($269.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $269.99

That would however put my above build in the posters budget of $1200


Sapphire is one of the better brands, along with XFX and ASUS.
June 26, 2012 2:26:23 AM

bctande1- He said he doesn't need a hard drive, and he probably wants an nVidia card to take advantage of Cuda
June 26, 2012 2:30:58 AM

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/551?vs=552

3930k vs. 3770K Benchmarks ^^^^

Notice how they equal each other out until the Single and Multi-Threaded tests

Multi-Threaded - The 3930k beats the 3770K by 18%

Single-Threaded - The 3770k beats the 3930k by 45%!!!

3930k is not worth the 570$
June 26, 2012 3:04:54 AM

who ever suggested a SB-E with a z68 board is pretty retarded just saying

it seems you are on a low budget for a workshop build i would say get

i7 3770k

a fine MOBO would suggest a MSI
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
would say this would be the very least you will need can go more but i don't think you need more than 1x PCI 3.0 slot

for the ram try to get 16GB as it will tend to help with a lot of the applications
June 28, 2012 4:54:09 PM

How is this:?


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... - Full ATX Case, better air than what I have - $149.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... - GFX Card, SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 685 - $134.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... - PSU, 1000W - $174.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... - 16GB RAM - $114.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... - MOBO, LGA 1155/Intel Z77 - $174.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... - CPU, i7-3770 - $319.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... - Cooling - $129.99


Discounts applied on newegg cart:
Subtotal: $1,199.93



Quote:
who ever suggested a SB-E with a z68 board is pretty retarded just saying

What is your opinion of SB-E with X79 though? It can support 64+GB ram. Should I get an X79 board with the lowest processor and upgrade when IvyBridge-E comes out?

(EDIT : ) For X79 Mobos, I like this one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... (End of EDIT)


Thanks again!
June 28, 2012 5:38:13 PM

fisher_1 said:

What is your opinion of SB-E with X79 though? It can support 64+GB ram. Should I get an X79 board with the lowest processor and upgrade when IvyBridge-E comes out?

(EDIT : ) For X79 Mobos, I like this one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... (End of EDIT)


Thanks again!


The i7-3820 isn't worth it. If you want X79, it's better to spend the $500-$600 i7-3930K. Because the cheapest X79 CPU is still $300.

The Mobo is really good, though.
June 28, 2012 5:44:37 PM

revisionzero said:
The 7850 while cheaper I don't believe is worth the cost. If you do choose to go for a 7850, stick with XFX.


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Video Card: XFX Double D Radeon HD 7850 - FX-785A-CDFC ($269.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $269.99

That would however put my above build in the posters budget of $1200

Why not? It is better price/performance than the 7870. It can OC to 1GHz and match the speed of the GTX 580 while using A LOT less power.
June 28, 2012 6:04:56 PM

Can you take advantage of Crossfire with different cards? For example 7850 or 7870 later and a 6850 now? or a Fermi now and a GTX670 later via SLI?

Also, if i7-3820 isn't worth it, any idea how much an IB-E, i7-3930K equivalent, will cost? That is coming out in December 2012 right?
June 28, 2012 6:16:57 PM

Nope, they must have the same number of cores and be the same card.
June 28, 2012 6:48:09 PM

Thats disappointing. Well, if the price is the same for 2 lower end, as a modern single, which is better?

For example:
A single http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... - $269.99 - XFX Double D FX-785A-CDFC Radeon HD 7850 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card
Vs.
Double http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... - $269.98 for both - SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 6850 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card with Eyefinity (100315L )
June 28, 2012 7:27:37 PM

7850 is the way to go

uses less power and has more performance
!