Greetings

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Greetings Everyone,

Since some of you have offered your thoughts and suggestions in the past, I
thought I would share the release of the P series cameras from Kodak. They
incorporate a lot of features but mostly they have the features many of you
shared with me in the past, i.e. RAW and TIFF file formats (no compression).
An Image Stability feature, 12X optical lens, F/2.8 Wide angle lens at 28mm,
a hot shot on top of camera, and more. Please do not take this as my
promoting or advertising, as I am simply alerting all that Kodak has
listened to you and come out with a camera that includes these features.
Check the web site for details.

Talk to you all soon,

Ron Baird
Eastman Kodak Company

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Good news. Any chance that any of the uncompressed modes will be part of existing camera firmware updates?

w..


Ronald Baird wrote:

> Greetings Everyone,
>
> Since some of you have offered your thoughts and suggestions in the past, I
> thought I would share the release of the P series cameras from Kodak. They
> incorporate a lot of features but mostly they have the features many of you
> shared with me in the past, i.e. RAW and TIFF file formats (no compression).
> An Image Stability feature, 12X optical lens, F/2.8 Wide angle lens at 28mm,
> a hot shot on top of camera, and more. Please do not take this as my
> promoting or advertising, as I am simply alerting all that Kodak has
> listened to you and come out with a camera that includes these features.
> Check the web site for details.
>
> Talk to you all soon,
>
> Ron Baird
> Eastman Kodak Company

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On Wed, 3 Aug 2005 14:30:07 -0400, Ronald Baird wrote:

> Although I am not on top of the camera you can get a pretty good
> view of it by going to the following site.

Details to follow?


>>> I thought I would share the release of the P series cameras from Kodak
. . .

> I will try to get my hands on one and share the images.

Is this the only camera in the P series that's being rolled out at
this time?

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Whoops,

Better give you the sites.

http://www.kodak.com/go/p880

http://www.kodak.com/go/p850

Enjoy,

Ron Baird
Eastman Kodak Company


> Greetings ASAAR,
>
> Although I am not on top of the camera you can get a pretty good view of
it
> by going to the following site. If you have Flash installed to your
> browser, you can move the camera around for a full 360 view. Give it a
try.
>
> I will try to get my hands on one and share the images.
>
> Talk to you soon,
>
> Ron Baird
> Eastman Kodak Company
>
>
>

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On Thu, 4 Aug 2005 17:19:02 -0400, Ronald Baird wrote:

> Hi ASAAR
>
> There are two cameras in the P series being released - the P850 and P880.
> The 880 has the 8 meg sensor with a 5.8 optical zoom and a 2.5 inch screen.
> Also the P850 has a 5 meg sensor with a 12 X zoom and IS. They are both on
> display at the Kodak web site
>
> http://www.kodak.com/go/p850 or 880
>
> Talk to you soon, ASAAR,
>
> Ron Baird
> Eastman Kodfak Company
>
>
> "ASAAR" <caught@22.com> wrote in message
> news:j4h2f1ppsbjvp12mp398geo98jamqbovsu@4ax.com...
> > On Wed, 3 Aug 2005 14:30:07 -0400, Ronald Baird wrote:
> >
> > > Although I am not on top of the camera you can get a pretty good
> > > view of it by going to the following site.
> >
> > Details to follow?
> >
> >
> > >>> I thought I would share the release of the P series cameras from Kodak
> > . . .
> >
> > > I will try to get my hands on one and share the images.
> >
> > Is this the only camera in the P series that's being rolled out at
> > this time?
> >
>

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On Thu, 4 Aug 2005 17:19:02 -0400, Ronald Baird wrote:

> There are two cameras in the P series being released - the P850 and P880.
> The 880 has the 8 meg sensor with a 5.8 optical zoom and a 2.5 inch screen.
> Also the P850 has a 5 meg sensor with a 12 X zoom and IS. They are both on
> display at the Kodak web site
>
> http://www.kodak.com/go/p850 or 880

www.kodak.com seems to be having difficulties. Whether I use the
links you provided, or try to search for other known Kodak cameras,
I get an error message stating:

> Sorry, the page you were trying to access,
>
> http://www.kodak.com/eknec/PageQuerier.jhtml
>
> does not exist.

While the Kodak website seems to be working, when I click on the
link that's supposed to allow me to select a particular (consumer)
digital camera, or open that link in a new page, it takes me back to
the same "Products and Services" web page. The links you provided
resolved to these addresses, but they eventually produced identical
error messages, as shown above:

> http://www.kodak.com/eknec/PageQue [...] -path=7391
>
> http://www.kodak.com/eknec/PageQue [...] -path=7373

I did find descriptions and Kodak's press release at dpreview.com,
but there's a mistake in the copy for the P850, probably because the
tech. writer Kodak used isn't a photographer. It said:

> Optical image stabilization, combined with the advanced, hybrid AF
> system (25 selectable points), provides a 2-stop advantage over
> non-Image Stabilized systems for better capturing subjects in low light
> for both still and video. For instance, if a particular scene called for
> at least a 1/500 shutter speed to "stop" the action under normal
> circumstances, the EASYSHARE P850 could deliver the same effect
> with a much slower 1/125 shutter speed, resulting in a bright yet
> crisp image. It also minimizes handheld camera shake at longer
> focal lengths, which is critical when not using a tripod — a scenario
> found on the sidelines of sporting events, on scenic hiking trails, and
> during everyday spontaneous picture-taking when carrying a stabilizing
> device is impractical.
>
> http://www.dpreview.com/news/0508/ [...] 80p850.asp

Yes, the 1/125 shutter speed could be used, but the P850's IS
would only help reduce camera movement. If a 1/500 second shutter
speed was needed to "stop" the action, it would still be needed,
whether IS was or wasn't used. When people talk about "stopping the
action", they've always been referring to stopping subject motion,
not movement of the hands that hold the camera.

The P880's wide (24mm on the wide end) zoom, large LCD display,
hot shoe and manual zoom and focusing rings should make for a very
nice camera, especially if the focusing is fast and accurate, as
implied by the press release.

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On Fri, 05 Aug 2005 08:17:58 GMT, David J Taylor wrote:

>> The P880's wide (24mm on the wide end) zoom, large LCD display,
>> hot shoe and manual zoom and focusing rings should make for a very
>> nice camera, especially if the focusing is fast and accurate, as
>> implied by the press release.
>
> However, I would check the noise from this particular 8MP camera (no
> sensor size given in the specifications) and the distortion in the
> wide-angle zoom setting before considering purchase.

You won't see *moi* buying any camera without first reading
reviews, and later checking sample images, if warranted. The P880
won't be available for at least another month, and I won't be
surprised if the first reviews show up early next year.


> I am surprised by the claim: "8.0 MP sensor for prints up to 30 × 40 in.
> (75 × 100 cm)", although considering that they think image stabilsiation
> can stop subject motion, who knows?
>
> Have they fixed the apparently awful JPEG quality of earlier cameras?

I've no way to know, but assume that if *any* of Kodak's current
linup offers low compression, the P-series also will. Even though I
have no way of knowing, it would seem that more care went into the
design of these cameras, so until I see the reviews I'll play the
optimist. I'd like to see it compared against the Fuji S9000 and
whatever Olympus offers as a C-8080 replacement, if they manage to
get one out before next summer. It would be nice if one of these
has a usable manual focus.

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On Fri, 05 Aug 2005 12:43:12 -0500, Ron Hunter wrote:

> I second your statements about checking reviews, specs., and also insist
> on handling the camera in a store to see if it 'fits'. The opinions
> expressed by the reviews are always biased, but the pictures speak for
> themselves, and the specs can be valuable for comparison (although one
> shouldn't always take them as 'truth').

The 'in-store handling' really is more important the most people
realize, and this is where a good camera store has a tremendous
advantage over the large chains (Circuit City, Comp-USA, etc.),
since you can take your time trying out cameras that actually have
charged batteries and memory cards installed. But to be really
useful, you should already have owned or used a digital camera,
since that will give you some reference points. A newbie might
never have heard of shutter lag and not think to check it out, or
might be told that two cameras have similar features, but miss that
one is much, much slower to operate since it has few external
controls and requires much dipping into menus.


> As for a 'useable manual focus', don't get your hopes up.

From owning and using a number of film rangefinders and SLRs I at
least know what the goal is. I still don't know if my next
camera (which I'd like to think is a year or two away) will be a
nice P&S, or a DSLR that'll give my old Nikon lenses a workout.

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Hi ASAAR,

Sorry to hear about your access trouble.

I have tested the pages and the go links to be sure they are working and
found them to be OK. Are you in the US and how do you access the web. I
would like to be sure that things are OK for you. Let me know if a retry of
the pages works for you.

http://www.kodak.com/go/p850

Ron Baird
Eastman Kodak Company






> On Thu, 4 Aug 2005 17:19:02 -0400, Ronald Baird wrote:
>
> > There are two cameras in the P series being released - the P850 and
P880.
> > The 880 has the 8 meg sensor with a 5.8 optical zoom and a 2.5 inch
screen.
> > Also the P850 has a 5 meg sensor with a 12 X zoom and IS. They are both
on
> > display at the Kodak web site
> >
> > http://www.kodak.com/go/p850 or 880
>
> www.kodak.com seems to be having difficulties. Whether I use the
> links you provided, or try to search for other known Kodak cameras,
> I get an error message stating:
>
> > Sorry, the page you were trying to access,
> >
> > http://www.kodak.com/eknec/PageQuerier.jhtml
> >
> > does not exist.
>
> While the Kodak website seems to be working, when I click on the
> link that's supposed to allow me to select a particular (consumer)
> digital camera, or open that link in a new page, it takes me back to
> the same "Products and Services" web page. The links you provided
> resolved to these addresses, but they eventually produced identical
> error messages, as shown above:
>

>