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June 28, 2012 4:08:05 AM

1.Approximate Purchase Date: A.S.A.P. Unless there is a new product is on the horizon that is worth waiting for.
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3.Budget Range: ~2000CAD, but I'm flexible.
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5.System Usage from Most to Least Important:Gaming. Would like a rig that will last for a long time.
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7.Parts Not Required: None.
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9.Preferred Website(s) for Parts: No preferences, would prefer canadian to reduce shipping and customs fees.
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11.Country:Canada
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13.Parts Preferences: Read good things on the nvidia gtx 670 gpu, and the i7 3770k cpu. Not stuck on these though. I read that i7 3770k runs hot when overclocked, which is a slight turn off.
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15.Overclocking:Yes, but I'm not firmiliar with the process, and I'm afraid of trying this myself.
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17.SLI or Crossfire: No
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19.Monitor Resolution: Higher = better. Single monitor.
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21.Additional Comments:

Looking for the best possible price/performance build. The cooler and faster it runs, the better. As for the monitor, that can be added on top of the budget. I like to run games at near maximum detail. Building this to run Planetside 2 perfectly.

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June 28, 2012 4:40:25 AM

You don't need i7 for gaming, but if you want longevity go for it.

Ivy runs hotter, but is 10-15% better per core than Ivy so it doesn't need to overclock that high to get similar performance if you get what I mean.


https://secure.newegg.ca/WishList/MySavedWishDetail.asp...

Here's a build that costs $1800. That gives you a bunch of money for the monitor that I didn't include.
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June 28, 2012 5:12:34 AM

I click your link and get 'This wish list is empty.'
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June 28, 2012 8:55:21 AM

http://www.directcanada.com <----- Free Shipping on orders over $50*

http://www.bestdirect.ca <----- Free Shipping on orders over $80*


http://www.corsair.com/carbide-series-500r-mid-tower-ca... <----- another look at that case

http://usa.asus.com/Motherboards/Intel_Socket_1155/P8Z7... <----- another look at that board along with a link to the latest bios update

http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=... <----- review of that Silverstone 750w modular psu


http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=11180AC6196&v... $115.66
Corsair Carbide Series 500R Mid-Tower Gaming Case ATX 4X5.25 6X3.5INT USB 1394 No PS Black

http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=22170AC0247&v... $121.78
Silverstone Strider 750 Plus 750W Modular Power Supply ATX 24PIN 135mm Fan 60A 80+ Silver

http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=16950BD6547&v... $145.92 MIR $125.92
ASUS P8Z77-V Lk ATX LGA1155 Z77 DDR3 3PCI-E16 2PCI-E1 3PCI SATA3 SLI DVI HDMI DP USB3.0 Motherboard

http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=12200BD0768&v... $234.79
Intel Core i5 3570K Unlocked Quad Core Processor LGA1155 3.4GHZ Ivy Bridge 6MB Retail

http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=11130AC0554&v... $31.05
Coolermaster Hyper 212 Evo Direct Touch 4 Heatpipe Heatsink AM2 AM3 LGA1366/1155/1156/2011 120MM

http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=15380BD5211&v... $48.23
G.SKILL Ripjaws X F3-12800CL9D-8GBXL 8GB 2X4GB DDR3-1600 CL9-9-9-24 Memory

http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=10530DR5213&v... $18.97
ASUS DRW-24B1ST 24X SATA DVD Writer OEM Black

http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=25350DR0783&v... $109.79
Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB SATA3 6GB/S 7200RPM 64MB Cache 3.5IN Dual Proc Hard Drive OEM

http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=16950DR9630&v... $239.53
SanDisk Extreme 240GB 2.5IN SSD SATA3 SDSSDX-240G-G25 Solid State Drive

http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=11830BD4893&v... $404.04
Gigabyte GeForce GTX 670 OC 980MHZ 2GB 6.0GHZ GDDR5 2xDVI HDMI DisplayPort PCI-E Video Card

http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=12850SW2113&v... $92.08
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium Edition 64BIT SP1 DVD OEM

Total: $1,668.76 *not including rebates and tax



http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=16950MN3389&v... $349.69
Samsung S23A700D 23IN Widescreen Led Lcd Montor 1920X1080 120HZ 3D 2MS DVI-D Hdmi

http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=10530MN6442&v... $154.67 MIR $144.67
ASUS ML228H 21.5IN Widescreen LED Backlit LCD Monitor Black 1920X1080 2MS 10M:1 HDMI DVI-D VGA
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June 28, 2012 12:45:39 PM

http://pcpartpicker.com/ca/p/b03f

i built this for under 1700 dollars. i7s dont have any beneficial value in games so the i5 3570k would have the same performance for 100 dollars less.

if you dont plan to SLI in the future (to add another graphics card), you can drop down the wattage to a 550w from xfx. i chose this 750w since it is on sale at ncix and it comes with dirt 3 and far cry 2
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June 28, 2012 1:08:06 PM

I'd suggest setting aside $450 of that for one of those tasty 2560x1440 IPS panel korean monitors like the yamakasi catleap or achieva shimian. Your eyes will thank you :) 

You could still use why_me's build, with a few changes.

120 gb sandisk extreme.

8 gb RAM (games aren't likely to require more than 4gb for an ideal experience until 64-bit OS's hit 80% saturation or so)

3570k (Unless you're a coder, edit videos into taxing formats, are a CAD designer, or something along those lines, you won't need the hyperthreading. Hyperthreading is useless for gaming.)
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June 28, 2012 2:18:48 PM

This build is slightly more expensive; and a different feel then the other recommendations above.
But it gives tons of room for future expansion as well excellent O/C potential.

Only thing this is missing is a HDD for mass storage and an OS.
For the monitor, since you're going with a single I'd recommend dishing out some extra $$ and pick up a 3D model.
Even if you aren't interested in 3D, the upgraded processor will make your gaming way smoother.


Case: Antec Three Hundred - $33
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

PSU: Cooler Master GX 750W - $100
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

Mobo: Asus P9X79 Pro - $325
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

CPU: Core i7-3930k - $580
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

Fan: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO - $35
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1683...

GPU: Asus GTX670 DC2T 2GB GDDR5 - $440
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

RAM: Mushkin Redline Quad Channel16GB DDR3 2133MHz - $150
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682...

SSD: Mushkin Chronos 120GB - $100
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682...


Total price for above items after taxes; $1,995
Now that's just prices as is, if you watch for sales you could put this together for cheaper.
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June 28, 2012 2:21:44 PM

I won't be using this computer for anything but gaming, so I guess the i5 3570k & 8gb ram will suffice, unless I'm convinced otherwise. Wondering about the pros & cons to SLI. 2 gigabyte 670's seems extremly appealing, I might even opt for muliple monitors in the future. Curious about that psu though. Would it be safer to get corsair/seagate? Is 620w enough. And lastly that sexy mobo, says crossfire, does that also mean sli?
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June 28, 2012 2:34:04 PM

Spreken said:
I won't be using this computer for anything but gaming, so I guess the i7 3570k & 8gb ram will suffice, unless I'm convinced otherwise. Wondering about the pros & cons to SLI. 2 gigabyte 670's seems extremly appealing, I might even opt for muliple monitors in the future. Curious about that psu though. Would it be safer to get corsair/seagate? Is 620w enough. And lastly that sexy mobo, says crossfire, does that also mean sli?

As you've read, the Ivy Bridge is notorious for overheating. I prefer the Sandy if you're going that route.
That or get a solid CPU fan to keep that thing cool.
8GB of memory is plenty for gaming.

If you're looking to run a single monitor for the time being, save your money on the SLI.
A single 670 is more than enough to run it.

Down the road if you add more monitors, although a 670 is still solid enough to run three monitors..
Adding a second in SLI will ensure everything stays smooth on highest graphics & resolution.

If this is something you would like in the future, I would look more towards 850W PSUs.

Crossfire is the same as SLI yes, but for AMD cards.
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June 28, 2012 2:48:30 PM

Is there any risk of bottleneck with a slower cpu? Torn between i7 2600k and 3770k.
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June 28, 2012 2:56:32 PM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($234.99 @ Newegg Canada)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($34.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($179.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Memory: Mushkin Blackline 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($45.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Hard Drive: Mushkin Chronos Deluxe 240GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($199.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Hard Drive: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($109.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card ($419.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Case: Cooler Master Storm Sniper ATX Mid Tower Case ($149.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 620W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($85.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Optical Drive: Sony AD-7280S-0B DVD/CD Writer ($19.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Monitor: Asus VS248H-P 24.0" Monitor ($209.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (64-bit) ($109.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Total: $1801.88
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
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June 28, 2012 3:04:29 PM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-2500K 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($224.99 @ Newegg Canada)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($34.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Motherboard: Asus P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($199.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($50.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Hard Drive: Crucial M4 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($139.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Hard Drive: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($109.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card ($419.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Case: Cooler Master Storm Trooper ATX Full Tower Case ($149.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Power Supply: Corsair 750W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($121.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS70 OEM DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Monitor: Asus VS248H-P 24.0" Monitor ($209.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (64-bit) ($109.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Total: $1790.88
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
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June 28, 2012 3:16:48 PM

Spreken said:
Is there any risk of bottleneck with a slower cpu? I'm still leaning towards the i7 3770k for longevity. What can you tell me about after market fans vs water cooling.

Well your computers only as fast as your slowest component.
That being said, the i7 3770k should have no problems with this.

As far as fans vs water cooling is concerned, it's mainly consumer preference.
Tom has a few good writeups about cooling, poke around a bit.

A big difference you'll find between the two is noise levels.
I prefer air cooling myself, but it is louder and generally not as efficient.


Edit: Seen your edit.
If this computer is 90% for gaming, take the Sandy Bridge.
It can O/C to outperform an Ivy anyways and you can spend the $100 you save on a soid cooler.
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June 28, 2012 3:19:41 PM

Thugnificants said:
Well your computers only as fast as your slowest component.
That being said, the i7 3770k should have no problems with this.

As far as fans vs water cooling is concerned, it's mainly consumer preference.
Tom has a few good writeups about cooling, poke around a bit.

A big difference you'll find between the two is noise levels.
I prefer air cooling myself, but it is louder.


Noise isn't a factor for me personally. More concerned with performance and temperature.
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June 28, 2012 3:33:50 PM

Thugnificants said:
Seen your edit.
If this computer is 90% for gaming, take the Sandy Bridge.
It can O/C to outperform an Ivy anyways and you can spend the $100 you save on a soid cooler.

Spreken said:
Noise isn't a factor for me personally. More concerned with performance and temperature.

Zalman 135mm - $70
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1683...
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June 28, 2012 3:49:57 PM

Patflute said:
You don't need i7 for gaming, but if you want longevity go for it.

Ivy runs hotter, but is 10-15% better per core than Ivy so it doesn't need to overclock that high to get similar performance if you get what I mean.


https://secure.newegg.ca/WishList/MySavedWishDetail.asp...

Here's a build that costs $1800. That gives you a bunch of money for the monitor that I didn't include.


Proper link that works: http://secure.newegg.ca/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?...

Well hopefully it does :p 
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June 28, 2012 3:51:04 PM

ivy bridge performs better than sandy bridge. a 4.5ghz ivy would be the same as a 4.8ghz sandy. the heat problems dont even exsist until you go beyond 4.5ghz which you shouldnt anyways

a good air cooler can be the noctua nh-d14 or the thermalright silver arrow (if you can find one)
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June 28, 2012 3:57:38 PM

^ summed it up pretty good although i disagree with stopping at 4.5GHZ push that mofo as far as you can safely :pt1cable:  :lol:  kidding i do though FTW
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June 28, 2012 4:03:51 PM

of course, you have a ROG board meaning you can technically do whatever you want with it
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June 28, 2012 4:05:40 PM

TheBigTroll said:
of course, you have a ROG board meaning you can technically do whatever you want with it
That's true. :na: 
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June 28, 2012 4:12:56 PM

You should really check out the COOLER MASTER Storm Sniper and COOLER MASTER CM Storm Series Trooper i am going to order one or the other just can't decide which i like better lol
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June 28, 2012 4:18:45 PM

you should also check out the haf xm
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June 28, 2012 4:29:50 PM

TheBigTroll said:
you should also check out the haf xm
+1 and check out Corsair Carbide Series 500R & NZXT SWITCH 810
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June 28, 2012 5:55:07 PM

Thugnificants said:
As you've read, the Ivy Bridge is notorious for overheating. I prefer the Sandy if you're going that route.
That or get a solid CPU fan to keep that thing cool.
8GB of memory is plenty for gaming.

If you're looking to run a single monitor for the time being, save your money on the SLI.
A single 670 is more than enough to run it.

Down the road if you add more monitors, although a 670 is still solid enough to run three monitors..
Adding a second in SLI will ensure everything stays smooth on highest graphics & resolution.

If this is something you would like in the future, I would look more towards 850W PSUs.

Crossfire is the same as SLI yes, but for AMD cards.

Overheating is not the correct term. It is called "gets hotter". However, that is only at extreme overclocks.

Also, do not go for the X79 build. Games will not make use of 6 cores for a very long time, and that time is longer than most people keep a gaming PC for before upgrading.
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June 28, 2012 5:55:07 PM

Spreken said:
Is there any risk of bottleneck with a slower cpu? Torn between i7 2600k and 3770k.

I'm going by the format you filled out. So if it's strictly gaming for the most part along with the option to SLI two of those cards later on then look to make these changes to that build I posted up above.


http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=12200BD0768&v... $234.79
Intel Core i5 3570K Unlocked Quad Core Processor LGA1155 3.4GHZ Ivy Bridge 6MB Retail

http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=16950BD6547&v... $145.92 MIR $125.92
ASUS P8Z77-V Lk ATX LGA1155 Z77 DDR3 3PCI-E16 2PCI-E1 3PCI SATA3 SLI DVI HDMI DP USB3.0 Motherboard

http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=15380BD5211&v... $48.23
G.SKILL Ripjaws X F3-12800CL9D-8GBXL 8GB 2X4GB DDR3-1600 CL9-9-9-24 Memory

http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=22170AC0247&v... $121.78
Silverstone Strider 750 Plus 750W Modular Power Supply ATX 24PIN 135mm Fan 60A 80+ Silver
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June 28, 2012 6:25:38 PM

Thugnificants said:
This build is slightly more expensive; and a different feel then the other recommendations above.
But it gives tons of room for future expansion as well excellent O/C potential.

Only thing this is missing is a HDD for mass storage and an OS.
For the monitor, since you're going with a single I'd recommend dishing out some extra $$ and pick up a 3D model.
Even if you aren't interested in 3D, the upgraded processor will make your gaming way smoother.


Case: Antec Three Hundred - $33
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

PSU: Cooler Master GX 750W - $100
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

Mobo: Asus P9X79 Pro - $325
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

CPU: Core i7-3930k - $580
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

Fan: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO - $35
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1683...

GPU: Asus GTX670 DC2T 2GB GDDR5 - $440
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

RAM: Mushkin Redline Quad Channel16GB DDR3 2133MHz - $150
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682...

SSD: Mushkin Chronos 120GB - $100
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682...


Total price for above items after taxes; $1,995
Now that's just prices as is, if you watch for sales you could put this together for cheaper.
That's a horrible PSU :non:  and hes not looking for a 3D,video rendering/ editing rig so why the i7-3930k :(  bad advice dude :pfff: 
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June 28, 2012 6:32:50 PM

bigcyco1 said:
That's a horrible PSU :non:  and hes not looking for a 3D,video rendering/ editing rig so why the i7-3930k :(  bad advice dude :pfff: 

Not to mention he stuck in a $50 case on a $2000 build. lol
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June 28, 2012 6:34:30 PM

^LOL!
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June 28, 2012 6:40:40 PM

azeem40 said:
Overheating is not the correct term. It is called "gets hotter". However, that is only at extreme overclocks.

Poorly worded on my part, true.
bigcyco1 said:
That's a horrible PSU :non:  and hes not looking for a 3D,video rendering/ editing rig so why the i7-3930k :(  bad advice dude :pfff: 

They already had a couple solid builds suggested to them..
I apologize for offering a different approach?

Don't be an ass-hat.

The only "advice" I offered was to pick up a 3D monitor, even if 3D wasn't something he was aiming for.
The option to use it is always nice, and from personal experience it runs games smoother.
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June 28, 2012 6:47:25 PM

Thugnificants said:
Poorly worded on my part, true.

They already had a couple solid builds suggested to them..
I apologize for offering a different approach?

Don't be an ass-hat.

The only "advice" I offered was to pick up a 3D monitor, even if 3D wasn't something he was aiming for.
The option to use it is always nice, and from personal experience it runs games smoother.

I'm not big on 3D myself, but the 120Hz that comes with those monitors are nice and like you said it does run smoother. That and 3D is an option so they are worth getting imo just to have that 120Hz refresh rate.

http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=16950MN3389&v... $349.69
Samsung S23A700D 23IN Widescreen Led Lcd Montor 1920X1080 120HZ 3D 2MS DVI-D Hdmi
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June 28, 2012 6:51:24 PM

How was my build? :D 

Look at second post for the correct link.
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June 28, 2012 6:51:57 PM

Thugnificants said:
Poorly worded on my part, true.

They already had a couple solid builds suggested to them..
I apologize for offering a different approach?

Don't be an ass-hat.

The only "advice" I offered was to pick up a 3D monitor, even if 3D wasn't something he was aiming for.
The option to use it is always nice, and from personal experience it runs games smoother.
Nobody being a ass that's a horrible PSU PSU is a very important part of your PC, as it can bring your PC to life or take it out ( just keep that in mind )

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June 28, 2012 7:02:39 PM

bigcyco1 said:
Nobody being a ass that's a horrible PSU PSU is a very important part of your PC, as it can bring your PC to life or take it out ( just keep that in mind )

Perhaps instead of just pointing out weak points and shaking your head..
Back it up with reasoning and a better recommendation?

I threw that build together in a few minutes, didn't do research on everything :( 
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June 28, 2012 7:10:08 PM

then you should do some research on the parts before you tell someone to check it ut and buy it -____-
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June 28, 2012 7:13:26 PM

Patflute said:
How was my build? :D 

Look at second post for the correct link.



its good although i would change up the psu for a cheaper one like xfx xxx, i5 3570k, cheaper motherboard, gtx670 ftw and cheaper ram (holy cow those gskills are expensive),
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June 28, 2012 7:15:42 PM

would higher frequency ram increase gaming performance?
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June 28, 2012 7:16:49 PM

TheBigTroll said:
its good although i would change up the psu for a cheaper one like xfx xxx, i5 3570k, cheaper motherboard, gtx670 ftw and cheaper ram (holy cow those gskills are expensive),

+1 That and anything less than a 240GB SSD with a $2,000 budget is a shame imo. SSD's are cheap enough these days and 240GB allows for the right amount of space for games, progies, OS, and what not.
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June 28, 2012 7:17:30 PM

TheBigTroll said:
then you should do some research on the parts before you tell someone to check it ut and buy it -____-

Not all of us have the luxery of having a 6 school day, to sit around and research.

And again, I didn't tell him to buy it, I just gave him a different approach.
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June 28, 2012 7:23:42 PM

Spreken said:
would higher frequency ram increase gaming performance?



noo........ it does not. there is very little system performance increase between 2133 and 1600mhz ram.
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June 28, 2012 7:24:31 PM

factor in that high frequency ram has higher cas latencies so you almost end up with the same speeds
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June 28, 2012 7:28:45 PM

Thank you all for your advice, much appreciated, and I learned a fair amount. I've decided on my cpu (i5 3570k), gpu (gigabbytes 670's), ~ssd 240 that why_me suggested. I'm not entirely sure on psu or cpu cooling as of yet (xfx 750w enough for sli 670's?). Also curious about the mobo change why_me, is that asus z77 v lk good for o/c?
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June 28, 2012 7:38:48 PM

I will quote a member here 4Ryan6 and i agree with him you'll get the maximum end result performance from the 2133 bandwidth preferably at 1.5v for cooler operation, I make that statement from my own actual tests testing from 2133 down to 1066 and adjusting the CAS levels to accommodate the speed changes, absolutely no lower settings beat the 2133s CAS 9 benchmarking performance.


Take that for what it's worth to you, if you're after all the performance you can squeeze out of it, go with the 2133. Fancy heat spreaders are mostly marketing too.

Only if you are seeking record level overclocks should you consider faster ram or better latencies.
Read this Anandtech article on memory scaling:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4503/sandy-bridge-memory-...
---bottom line---

DDR3 1600 is the sweet spot.
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June 28, 2012 7:39:59 PM

Spreken said:
Thank you all for your advice, much appreciated, and I learned a fair amount. I've decided on my cpu (i5 3570k), gpu (gigabbytes 670's), ~ssd 240 that why_me suggested. I'm not entirely sure on psu or cpu cooling as of yet (xfx 750w enough for sli 670's?). Also curious about the mobo change why_me, is that asus z77 v lk good for o/c?

750w gives you plenty of headroom for 670's in SLI. That Sandisk SSD I posted utilzes Toggle Nand so that's a big plus. As far as over clocking there's better boards out there than the one I posted. This one down below would be better for a high over clock but the board I posted will get you a decent over clock.

http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=10530BD6646&v... $185.34
ASUS P8Z77-V ATX LGA1155 Z77 DDR3 SLI 3PCI-E16 2PCI-E1 2PCI SATA3 DisplayPort USB3.0 Motherboard

Before you get hooked on over clocking I want to show you a bench and what over clocking any of these 1155 cpu's gains you in FPS. It's pretty much no gain at all.


http://www.vortez.net/articles_pages/asrock_z77_extreme... <------ Take a good look at that page including those benchmarks so you know what you will gain by spending more money on a fancy board and cpu cooler. Is 1 - 2 extra FPS worth it when you can gain up to 10 more FPS by over clocking your video card without adding voltage to it.

Same with the 3570K cpu. You can get it up to an easy 4.2 Ghz without upping the voltage which means no extra heat. 4.2Ghz on a Ivy Bridge cpu = 4.4 - 4.5Ghz on a Sandy Bridge cpu performance wise.
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June 28, 2012 7:44:49 PM

id get a z77x-ud5h if you are going to get the asus p8z77-v. the ud5h has a ton more features than the z77-v
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June 28, 2012 7:52:46 PM

I see your point, well played sir. Perhaps overclocking to the extreme is over rated. Once again you have my thanks, saving me some hard earned cash.
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June 28, 2012 7:54:31 PM

I would go with Gigabyt UD5, ASUS V Pro, or an ASRock Z77 Extreme6 all are solid and you wouldn't be losing with whatever you picked IMO.
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June 28, 2012 8:04:48 PM

as for sli, the 670 came out with 4gb model. whats your take. is it useless gaming wise? better for multiple monitors?
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