Hello, Toms Hardware...I'm building a gaming pc and I would like the communities feedback on my rig. I would like it to stay under 450, ideally being around 350-400. I want this system basically for playing skyrim,fallout, bf3, but i don't care if its on ultra settings...i'll even be fine with ultra low settings.
Approximate Purchase Date: This week
Budget Range: 300-450
System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming-Surfing Web-Vegas Pro
Preferred Website(s) for Parts: newegg.com
SLI or Crossfire: No
Parts Not Required: keyboard, mouse, monitor, speakers, OS,HDD, R/W Drive
1.Can anyone tell me if they all seem compatible and if the build makes sense.
2. Could anyone give me tips to shave off some money off the top.
3. What is the best window case that will allow people to look in with cold cathode lights.
1.We need to kno what your other parts are in order to tell if it will be compatible.
2.You can go for http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682... it will shave off $20 but that's all I can help you with I can't recommend any cheaper AMD parts because I don't know AMD
3.You wouldn't be able to afford it. All good window cases are $100+. You could buy a budget case then cut the side off and install a window, that would be super easy.
This is $450 and gives you $50 or so for the power supply. You can take off the hard drive giving you $150 for the power supply or 8gb ram or whatever you want. You'll be using the integrated graphics on the processor but that's fine since you don't mind playing the games on low, then in the future you can buy a dedicated card and be able to play anything on max.
1. 500W should be enough for everything that I've listed up there. The components that draw the most power are the CPU and GPU. You should be able to calculate an estimate using an online PSU calculator (no guarantees though). It would be wise to buy a larger power supply than recommended just for safety's sake. http://extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.jsp
2. The Intel is faster than the X4 in just about every way.
- The only benefit of getting the AMD is the true quad-core architecture (whereas the i3 is a dual-core with hyperthreading... still good though). This will provide some performance increase with heavy multitasking or heavily threaded applications.
- The second benefit of the Phenom II is that it is a black edition processor. This means the multiplier is unlocked and will help you overclock much easier (especially if you're just starting). The Intel i3 does not offer this feature; only the processors ending with 'K' suffix do (ie. i5-2500K).
This being said, for pure best performance/price... I would just get the Intel since you would have to purchase an aftermarket cooler for the AMD. Also, the AMD AM3 motherboard is NOT high-end... I am not sure how well it will support overclocking.
3. I don't suggest you downgrade to 4GB. RAM is so cheap that it will only cost you about $20 more for the extra 4GB. Also 8GB is kind of the standard nowadays, as most systems will typically use more than 4GB underload... 8GB will give you some extra headroom. Note: Intel requires 1.35-1.50v RAM, AMD can use 1.35v-1.65v RAM.
4. I think the 7770 performs similar to the 6850, so I would just get the 7770. It is also newer technology and also more power efficient. Again, I would suggest purchasing the most powerful GPU you can afford so you don't have to worry about upgrading.
5. Again, you're very welcome. Good luck with everything, glad I could help.
I know what it is like to start computers... I didn't have any help and I made a few bad purchases since I wasn't able to ask for any advice from the experts here.
I would like to add a few more comments about overclocking (#2 above).
I have a similar AMD motherboard (ASUS M4A78LT-M LE) with a similar AMD processor (AMD Phenom II X4 840). and I was able to overclock with it using the stock cooler... The reason I cannot suggest this is that the 3+1 or 4+1 phase power design does not provide optimal voltage to the overclocked processor that higher-end motherboards can (8+2 phase power design or better)...
In short, it works. But I have no idea what the long-term implications are. You may risk damage to the processor...
**Also, an lightly overclocked Phenom II X4.... gives about the same gaming performance as an Intel i3-2100/2120 at stock.