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June 28, 2012 5:23:48 PM

Good afternoon!

I'm looking to build my first pc. I don't really know much about hardware parts and brands but I understand the gist of it as I have been reading about it more and more. So....

Date of purchase- in about 2 weeks

Budget - 1000$CAN, would be willing to go to 1200 MAX with taxes and shipping

Usage - Gaming, movies, internet, office work. I don't necessarily need to have every game at the highest settings but I want solid performances for today's games and also being able to run well the upcoming games in the next 3-4 years hopefully.

Parts not required - Mouse, monitor, keyboard, speakers and OS

Preferred websites - Don't have any in particular

Country - Canada

Overclock - Yeah

Sli - not the moment, I'm looking into a single gpu build

Resolution - 1080

Comments : I favor Intel Cpu's over AMD and I would go with Nvidia for gpu. I have been told Asus mobos were the most reliable. I need space so no less than 1TB. Are blu-ray drives expensive? I want to burn dvds.


Thanks in advance

Let me know if you need more details

More about : 1000 1200 build noob

June 28, 2012 5:36:42 PM

Here you go:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($234.99 @ Newegg Canada)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($34.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD3H ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($168.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($47.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Hard Drive: Western Digital Caviar Green 1.5TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive
Hard Drive: Crucial M4 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($129.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card ($419.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Power Supply: Corsair 650W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($100.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($20.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Total: $1228.91
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
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June 28, 2012 5:42:45 PM

For one GTX 670, a 550W PSU will be enough. Check out the XFX Pro550.
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June 28, 2012 5:46:05 PM

Thanks!

I forgot to add that Id like that pc to be upgradeable-friendly such as being able to add ram later or faster cpu and such.
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June 28, 2012 5:48:44 PM

You're out of luck in the cpu department. There is no more upgrade options for the LGA 1155 socket. Ivy Bridge is the last chipset of the LGA 1155 socket.
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June 28, 2012 5:53:12 PM

Jimboone said:
Thanks!

I forgot to add that Id like that pc to be upgradeable-friendly such as being able to add ram later or faster cpu and such.


Yeah Ivy Bridge is the end of the line for LGA 1155, the next round of CPUs (Haswell, Ivy Bridge-E) will use entirely new sockets.
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June 28, 2012 6:18:34 PM

g-unit1111 said:
Yeah Ivy Bridge is the end of the line for LGA 1155, the next round of CPUs (Haswell, Ivy Bridge-E) will use entirely new sockets.


Intel never seems to keep there socket type long ( new CPU new MoBo :( 

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June 28, 2012 6:58:47 PM

How long would I be good for with the i5-3570k then without feeling too outdated ?
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June 28, 2012 7:13:14 PM

Jimboone said:
How long would I be good for with the i5-3570k then without feeling too outdated ?


A couple of years at least.

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Intel never seems to keep there socket type long ( new CPU new MoBo :( 


At least it's better than AMD where they drag out the sockets past the point of usefulness and the older sockets can't handle newer CPU instructions.
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June 28, 2012 7:31:25 PM

When so you guys expect games and other software to ditch the dvd format and use bluray permanently?
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June 28, 2012 7:50:24 PM

I will keep my i5 3570K for 3 to 4 years ( and OC it ) when games need more CPU power then the CPU is giving me at stock speeds.
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June 28, 2012 7:50:53 PM

Jimboone said:
When so you guys expect games and other software to ditch the dvd format and use bluray permanently?


No Clue :) 
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June 28, 2012 7:57:35 PM

g-unit1111 said:
A couple of years at least.

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Intel never seems to keep there socket type long ( new CPU new MoBo :( 


At least it's better than AMD where they drag out the sockets past the point of usefulness and the older sockets can't handle newer CPU instructions.


^ You got a good point there, I have both AMD and Intel Rigs

i5 3570K GTX 670 1920x1080

FX 4100 GTX 560 1680x1050 < kids love it ( and for the 160 i payed for it and a the GA 970 @ micro center ) I really cant bitch about, sure it dont max all games but you can play any game on mid to high with 40+ FPS
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June 28, 2012 8:12:36 PM

Niklas_13 said:
^ You got a good point there, I have both AMD and Intel Rigs

i5 3570K GTX 670 1920x1080

FX 4100 GTX 560 1680x1050 < kids love it ( and for the 160 i payed for it and a the GA 970 @ micro center ) I really cant bitch about, sure it dont max all games but you can play any game on mid to high with 40+ FPS


Yeah that was the biggest flaw of the FX-8150 was that they were trying to run a new CPU on a socket that couldn't handle it. I'm coming from a 990FX (Gigabyte 990FX-Phenom II 1055T-dual GTX 550) build to a Z77 build (Core i5-3570K-Gigabyte Z77-Radeon 7870) and the difference is literally night and day. The Phenom II build is sitting in my HTPC.

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When so you guys expect games and other software to ditch the dvd format and use bluray permanently?


Probably never - Blu Ray only has a limited appeal to the higher end market, and most people who haven't yet bought high resolution screens won't get the usefulness of it.
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June 28, 2012 8:14:23 PM

I really appreciate all your responses.

Is a ssd really a must?
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June 28, 2012 8:16:56 PM

Jimboone said:
I really appreciate all your responses.

Is a ssd really a must?


It's only a must if you want to cut down on your system load and boot times, it's a significant gain in performance for games and applications like Adobe CS5. For general usage sure it's useful but not a requirement.
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June 28, 2012 8:26:46 PM

I think games have already ditched the DVD format for the internet format.
I wouldn't expect blu-rays to come into market anytime soon, physical media itself is becoming obsolete, for the low volumes they do sell, they'll probably just eat the cost on stamping more DVDs to ensure everyone who buys them can use them.

Since you can't just watch a blu-ray movie in a blu-ray player (which is ridiculous) a lot of people don't pay the extra 30$ to upgrade from dvd to blu-ray. If you want to watch blu-ray movies, be sure to get a drive that comes with the software required to play the movies.
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June 28, 2012 8:53:36 PM

Well, I have a ps3 for bluray movies and other games not available on pc but I was curious if the purchase of a br rive was justifiable.

So if I understand, people install OS and games on the SSD everything else on the main drive? Does it improve the frame rates or are we just talking about boot/load times?
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June 28, 2012 8:59:45 PM

Jimboone said:
Well, I have a ps3 for bluray movies and other games not available on pc but I was curious if the purchase of a br rive was justifiable.

So if I understand, people install OS and games on the SSD everything else on the main drive? Does it improve the frame rates or are we just talking about boot/load times?


I include BD-R burners on higher end builds because the people who own them generally hook their systems up to high end monitors or HDTVs and that gives the option for playing back movies with enhanced content, plus the extra capacity of BD-R and BD-R DL make backups far easier.

As far as SSD goes - you're better off not installing games (Steam, etc) - on the primary, store those on the secondary. Use your SSD for OS and a few main programs only. You don't want to overload your SSD and then lose the read-write speeds it's rated as.
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June 29, 2012 1:54:06 PM

Do people really save money by getting the barebone kits off tigerdirect and buy whatever else is missing separately?
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June 29, 2012 4:14:20 PM

Jimboone said:
Do people really save money by getting the barebone kits off tigerdirect and buy whatever else is missing separately?


No - because Tiger Direct is not the store they used to be since the CompUSA merger, and their selection has completely dwindled and pales in comparison to Newegg, and their barebone kits are not what what they used to be. They include a lot of their crap proprietary brands Ultra and Systemax and you do not want to purchase those. They also include junk cases and PSUs on those builds, that's not a good way to go by any means.
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June 29, 2012 8:17:39 PM

This build allows you to add another one of those cards later on.


http://www.directcanada.com <----- Free Shipping on orders over $50*


http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=11180AC3384&v... $73.50
Corsair Carbide Series 300R Black Gaming Case ATX 3X5.25 4X3.5 Front USB Audio No PSU

http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=15180AC8566&v... $80.20
XFX 650W PRO650W Core Edition Single Rail ATX 12V 53A 24PIN ATX Power Supply 80PLUS Bronze PSU

http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=16950BD6547&v... $145.92 MIR $125.92
ASUS P8Z77-V Lk ATX LGA1155 Z77 DDR3 3PCI-E16 2PCI-E1 3PCI SATA3 SLI DVI HDMI DP USB3.0 Motherboard

http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=12200BD0768&v... $234.79
Intel Core i5 3570K Unlocked Quad Core Processor LGA1155 3.4GHZ Ivy Bridge 6MB Retail

http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=11130AC0554&v... $31.05
Coolermaster Hyper 212 Evo Direct Touch 4 Heatpipe Heatsink AM2 AM3 LGA1366/1155/1156/2011 120MM

http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=15380BD5211&v... $48.80
G.SKILL Ripjaws X F3-12800CL9D-8GBXL 8GB 2X4GB DDR3-1600 CL9-9-9-24 Memory

http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=10530DR5213&v... $18.97
ASUS DRW-24B1ST 24X SATA DVD Writer OEM Black

http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=14120DR5445&v... $94.34
Seagate Barracuda 1TB 7200RPM 64MB SATA 6Gbps 3.5IN Internal Hard Drive - OEM

http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=16950BD5668&v... $243.00
Sapphire Radeon HD 7850 860MHZ 2GB 4.8GBPS GDDR5 DVI HDMI 2XMINIDP PCI-E Video Card

Total: $970.57 *not including rebates and tax
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June 30, 2012 4:09:18 AM

Thanks Why_me
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June 30, 2012 7:48:27 PM

This guy is selling this online for 1200$CAN or 1000$CAN without the GPU. Is it worth it the price, if not how much do you think its worth? Any bottleneck parts?

CPU :
* Intel Core i5 3570K Unlocked Quad Core Processor LGA1155 3.4GHZ Ivy Bridge 6MB Retail

Memory :
* Corsair Vengeance Blue Lowprofile 16GB 4X4GB DDR3-1600 CL9-9-9-24 Dual Channel Memory Kit

Graphic card :
* Sapphire Radeon HD 7870 1000MHZ 2GB 4.8GHZ GDDR5 DVI HDMI 2XMINIDP PCI-E Video Card

Motherboard :
* Gigabyte Z77X-UD3H ATX LGA1155 Z77DDR3 3PCI-E16 3PCI-E1 HDMI CrossFireX/SLI SATA3 USB3.0 Motherboard

Case :
* Fractal Design Define R3 Titanium ATX Mid Tower Silent Computer Case 2X5.25 8X3.5INT USB3.0 No PS

Power Supply :
* Silverstone Strider 750 Plus 750W Modular Power Supply ATX 24PIN 135mm Fan 60A 80+

Hard disk :
* Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 16MB Cache 7200RPM 3.5IN SATA Internal Hard Drive OEM

DVD Writer :
* ASUS DRW-24B1ST 24X SATA DVD Writer OEM Black

OS :
* Windows 7 64-bit

I was thinking of maybe offering 750-800 for all this (without the GPU). I reseached the prices online for each part and I get about 800.
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June 30, 2012 8:01:51 PM

Jimboone said:
This guy is selling this online for 1200$CAN or 1000$CAN without the GPU. Is it worth it the price, if not how much do you think its worth? Any bottleneck parts?

CPU :
* Intel Core i5 3570K Unlocked Quad Core Processor LGA1155 3.4GHZ Ivy Bridge 6MB Retail

Memory :
* Corsair Vengeance Blue Lowprofile 16GB 4X4GB DDR3-1600 CL9-9-9-24 Dual Channel Memory Kit

Graphic card :
* Sapphire Radeon HD 7870 1000MHZ 2GB 4.8GHZ GDDR5 DVI HDMI 2XMINIDP PCI-E Video Card

Motherboard :
* Gigabyte Z77X-UD3H ATX LGA1155 Z77DDR3 3PCI-E16 3PCI-E1 HDMI CrossFireX/SLI SATA3 USB3.0 Motherboard

Case :
* Fractal Design Define R3 Titanium ATX Mid Tower Silent Computer Case 2X5.25 8X3.5INT USB3.0 No PS

Power Supply :
* Silverstone Strider 750 Plus 750W Modular Power Supply ATX 24PIN 135mm Fan 60A 80+

Hard disk :
* Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 16MB Cache 7200RPM 3.5IN SATA Internal Hard Drive OEM

DVD Writer :
* ASUS DRW-24B1ST 24X SATA DVD Writer OEM Black

OS :
* Windows 7 64-bit

I was thinking of maybe offering 750-800 for all this (without the GPU). I reseached the prices online for each part and I get about 800.

Ya that's a good deal and that 7870 is one nice card. The hard drive there is a bit slow but you can always pick up an SSD later on for cheap...they go down in price every month. The RAM is a bit over kill but no biggy there.
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