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AMD Radeon HD 7850 or NVIDIA GeForce GTX 480

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May 6, 2012 4:53:29 AM

I was looking on the futurmark website which compares graphics cards and it said that the NVIDIA GeForce GTX 480 was a bit better than the AMD Radeon HD 7850. Is this true or is the AMD Radeon HD 7850 better?
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May 6, 2012 5:11:44 AM

yes a gtx 480 is a bit faster then 7850 but not over all better.it is a good card but only cons are-
heat
noise
less overclocking.
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a b U Graphics card
May 6, 2012 5:26:11 AM

choose the 7850, newer architecture, much less heat much less noise, much much less power consumption and a very small performance hit, should be worth it.
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May 6, 2012 5:29:09 AM

The 480 is about 7 percent faster performance wise, but the 7850 consumes a lot less power, is more quite, and is less hot. The 7850 in my opinion is "better". Depends on the prices you are looking at.
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May 6, 2012 6:02:43 AM

The thing is, i wouldn't go with a gfx card older than 2 generations, which the gtx480 is. 7850 is a very nice overclocker, you can get 1150 core very easily.Uses power equal to a hd 6850 and gives a performance of hd6950-hd6970.

or just wait for the gtx 660ti, but that's a little too late to come.
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May 6, 2012 6:11:46 AM

you have two gtx 480's and you are telling your house isn't burnt yet.
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a b U Graphics card
May 6, 2012 6:19:41 AM

@norksinc,
as others said,gtx 480 is a bit faster then 7850.only cons are heat,power consumption,less overclocking potential(in comparison to 7850).if you can tolerate then it's good otherwise i would suggest 7850 as it's a newer card,runs cooler,quieter,overclocks better and is more 'future proof'.in the end,it's your choice.
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May 6, 2012 6:24:47 AM

^^where do you live, alaska, and the money you spend on the coolers, 7850 doesn't require any additional cooler to oc to 1150mhz, reaches the performance of 7870.
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May 6, 2012 6:28:57 AM

clearly,evga gtx 480 is more 'bang for the buck' but you cannot get everything good in one package.both 7850 and 480 have their particular pros/cons.
gtx 480 pros-
-faster then a 7850.
-very stable drivers(it's nvidia LOL)
-good deal for it's price.
cons
-some people may call it outdated
-heat and power consumption.
-less overclocking potential in comparison to 7850.
-less futurproof as once it get's out of stock,i don't think they will get restocked.
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May 6, 2012 6:29:57 AM

manu 11 said:
^^where do you live,


UK(recon-uk).
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May 6, 2012 6:52:38 AM

480 is PCIe 2.0.... 7850 is PCIe 3.0....

Think about future capabilities!
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a b U Graphics card
May 6, 2012 6:59:43 AM

^ :lol: 
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May 6, 2012 7:01:25 AM

would rather plump for the 7870
Pros: Less power, less heat, never architecture - more future proof;
Cons: Not as much raw power as the 480.

Though if overclocking is your deal, factor in the cooling solutions, before you do a price comparo. The 480 might not win so clearly on price then if you need to spend 30-40 $ on the cooling, and the psu issues to boot :) 
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May 6, 2012 7:06:51 AM

some people *might* think that recon-uk is defending 480 because he owns two of them.but as he said earlier in his post that he is trying to show that what a gtx 480 can do with a little tweak if you can tolerate the heat.
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May 6, 2012 7:10:33 AM

Azok said:
480 is PCIe 2.0.... 7850 is PCIe 3.0....

Think about future capabilities!


irrelevant!

Its not like the GTX 480 is going to get a performance boost that will saturate PCIe 2.0 channels. The GTX 480 is not going to change.

++ NVidia's drivers are not that much better than AMDs. My GTX 560Ti has driver crashes every-time I play flash videos.



One question: Are you planning to only use the computer for Video Games, or are you also planning to use the computer for 3D design, and/or content creation as well as gaming? The GTX 480 is a BEAST for content creation/compute tools as well as gaming. The Radeon 7800 series is also good, but not as good as the GTX 480.

++ another thing to consider - in colder climates you might not mind having a graphics card that runs hot.
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May 6, 2012 7:13:30 AM

yeah me thinks he lives in antarctica!!

But well brute power is brute power, cant deny that (even if battlefield is nvidia optimised :p )
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May 6, 2012 7:16:22 AM

ukee1593 said:

++ NVidia's drivers are not that much better than AMDs. My GTX 560Ti has driver crashes every-time I play flash videos.


:ouch:  :ouch:  :ouch:  :ouch:  :ouch: 
holy crap dude!you are saying amd has better drivers then nvidia?
not trying to be a fanboy but you sound like a noob!
nvidia has way better drivers support then amd and that's for sure :sarcastic: 
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May 6, 2012 7:18:57 AM

psirohi said:
yeah me thinks he lives in antarctica!!

But well brute power is brute power, cant deny that (even if battlefield is nvidia optimised :p )


recon-uk leaves in UK as he said earlier.he is also using gelid aftermarket coolers for 480s.it seems to me that BF3 is slightly optimized for nvidia but not mote then crysis 2 :p 
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May 6, 2012 7:28:25 AM

well about TS do you live in a cold country? because if you live in places that are hot,
imo i have 2 gtx480 on my shelf it runs great on stock, not overclocking it as heat is not that great specially right now in the summer (28c room temp this is with 2 aircons at max and 2 fans at speed number 3) but well it get's really cold at night so no problem during night time but yeah if you have room temp somewhere around there then you might need to consider 7850 or something, but I say 480 are still a beast of a card can still play lot's of games in high settings with great fps, if you live in really cold places then a 480 is not that much of a problem, but if you live in some place that has 150c room temp (lol) then either gpu is not a great choice ^_^

(actually yesterday it was raining so it was king of cool but today it's freaking hot TT__TT)
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Anonymous
May 6, 2012 7:35:27 AM

I must chime in here.I went from 7950/7970 crossfire to gtx 480 sli like recon has said.Bottom line there really is no competition price performance.How could anyone pass up a card for under $250 that can easily beat a gtx 580 with a slight bump in clocks?Another selling point for me is the fact that crossfire flatout sucks.I had 2 beastley cards and one was going to waste in most games but my sli 480's scale in every game ive tried.I was also getting a smoother gaming experience with one gtx 480 over one 7970(drivers im thinking)I am still baffled what new tech has to do with anything or cards a few generations old?I care about cards pushing my fps i dont care about all this so called new tech that you dont even notice anyways.
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May 6, 2012 7:37:09 AM

@recon

totally agree with you actually makes me wish I live there in the UK or US or canada at least it's cold there and snows too, the only snow I see raining here are fake snow made from Ice me and my friends trow around back then when I was in highschool.

@TS if your gearing at something like this
'42.31 pesos to 1$ us dollar" (didn't notice calculation changed until I check just now)

Sapphire hd 7850 = 10700=252.89$
http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=16577694

bnew Inno3d GTX 480 1536mb DDR5 384bit regular price
regular price 14,499 = 342.68$ (regular price LOL)
limited offer april 26 to 30@ 11k = 259.98$ (this one doesn't count right now)
limited offer may 1 to 15 12.5k = 295.43$(right now since it's still may you get this price)
http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=16688586

@TS
if the prices are similar to what I have above then a 7850 is a no brainer. seeing as it's also inno3d (had 4 experience with them and all of those 4 went bad)
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May 6, 2012 7:58:11 AM

don't know but 4 inno3d card I bought all from the gtx family all went bad after 7 months first 1 card then so on so fort.

well not sure about all but gainward and palit doesn't use same as those in nvidia to save cost. at least that's what they say. or something along the line above

but if he lives in country where he doesn't make use of evga's step up imo I would say asus/msi/gigabyte/sapphire/zotac
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May 6, 2012 8:22:49 AM

think this thread got highjacked. 30 replies and not one from the Op :) 
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May 6, 2012 8:39:50 AM

Quote:
The thread is on topic 100%.
Apart from this and your post.


true that .... (note to self: start a highjack with more subtlety .....)

And also I wish you had replied on by 7870 purchase. Just got it and now feeling like a bit of a chump.
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May 6, 2012 8:48:16 AM

lol this I can assure you any of our mid range cards from this generation up to the 3rd last generation, will give you blasting performance if your comping from

pentium 4 with nvidia fx 5100 128mb vram ( a friend of mine came from this all he play was warcraft 3 tft) until he decided to game on bf3 and looks dumbfounded (we normally play sports when together or warcraft3)


OT

if your getting a amd I suggest sapphire so far sapphire cards has been giving me satisfying results "7850"

and if your going with the nvidia I say asus but I'm being geared toward the msi

for the gtx 480
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May 6, 2012 3:27:32 PM

Wow I didn't expect that many replies! :o  Well I am building my first computer. I want it to be able to play games and record them on atleast high settings although Ultra would be nice. I'm not sure if the PSU i picked is any good but here it is if that helps any and the CPU fan i am buying.

APEVIA JAVA ATX-JV650W


COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus


I don't know if these would work well enough for the GTX 480. I live in a state in the U.S. where when it's winter it get's really cold and when it's summer it get's REALLY hot. So the heat wouldn't be a problem in the winter but the summer it might get a little hot.
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a b U Graphics card
May 12, 2012 5:57:07 PM

^^dont get that psu, you will kill your whole rig, get a corsair tx 650w.

nice choice for the cpu cooler.
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a b U Graphics card
May 12, 2012 6:12:34 PM

^+10
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Anonymous
May 12, 2012 11:06:42 PM

I normally dont give much care if a psu is an off brand as long as its quality.I bought a rosewill 1300 watt lighning and its as good as any psu on the market.However that psu you listed i wouldnt even consider putting in my pc.Even a single gtx 480 will kill that psu.
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May 13, 2012 4:25:05 AM

^lightning series is highly rated on johnyguru,you can't call it low end.
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May 13, 2012 5:15:05 AM

I just wanna say i purchased a galaxy gtx 465 last august for 120.00 bucks (new with 3 yr warranty) and i have been very impressed with it. Paired with a 2500k i can play all my games on ultra. In WoW i have never seen my fps go below 55 fps even in the middle of a crowded server, most times its in the 120-140 fps range.

Basically, you dont need to spend much on a video card to get good performance. The gtx 465 got a bad rap at launch because it was too expensive for its performance, not that it was a bad card. I think the refurbished pny 465 on newegg is the best deal on the whole site, for 105.oo bucks. The 465 IS a faster card than the 460, and quite a bit faster than the 192bit 460's they are selling now.
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May 13, 2012 5:27:52 AM

Scotty99 said:
Paired with a 2500k i can play all my games on ultra.

all games on ultra with 465???
go troll somewhere else.
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May 13, 2012 5:48:07 AM

Excuse me?

BF3 is my most demanding game and it never drops below 30 FPS on ultra, usually in the 40-50 range.

Other games FPS is much higher.
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a b U Graphics card
May 13, 2012 5:53:48 AM

^ 30 fps and you call it 'ultra'?
ultra means best possible gaming experience and that's possible when you get 60+ fps without any fps drops.
all games also include metro 2033 and witcher 2,try them and then come back.
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May 13, 2012 6:01:42 AM

hellfire24 said:
^lightning series is highly rated on johnyguru,you can't call it low end.


I didnt mean to imply it was low end but usually when people are discussing great power supplys i never hear rosewill mentioned.It is always corsair,enermax,silverstone ect..
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a b U Graphics card
May 13, 2012 6:05:18 AM

^yeah that's because of their good customer service.
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May 13, 2012 6:06:15 AM

hellfire24 said:
^ 30 fps and you call it 'ultra'?
ultra means best possible gaming experience and that's possible when you get 60+ fps without any fps drops.
all games also include metro 2033 and witcher 2,try them and then come back.


If anything you are a troll. 30 FPS is my MINIMUM FPS, which is actually what tomshardware sets as a baseline for something being "playable". Go read all the reviews, if a video cards minimum FPS at a given resolution stays at 30 or above they will suggest that card as playable.

I dont play any of those other games, i said games that i do play i can play them all at ultra.

My point here is, you dont need to spend a ton of money on hardware to get a good gaming experience.
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a b U Graphics card
May 13, 2012 6:13:15 AM

Scotty99 said:
If anything you are a troll. 30 FPS is my MINIMUM FPS, which is actually what tomshardware sets as a baseline for something being "playable". Go read all the reviews, if a video cards minimum FPS at a given resolution stays at 30 or above they will suggest that card as playable.

I dont play any of those other games, i said games that i do play i can play them all at ultra.

My point here is, you dont need to spend a ton of money on hardware to get a good gaming experience.


first of all,calm down.
you just proved yourself wrong by saying that 30 fps is playable not ultra!but in your earlier post you mentioned that it(gtx 465) can play any thing on ultra.it is the minimum frame rate not ultra frame rate.so please think before you call someone troll.
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a c 84 U Graphics card
May 13, 2012 6:17:31 AM

gtx 480

-nice card as compared to the price
-gives better performance then gtx 570 and when overclocked go past the gtx 580
-power consumption is AWFUL!!!
-drivers are good i didnt have any problems with mine nvidia gpu. :D 
-hotter card as compared to the others
-littlebit noisy but that doesnt matter.:D 

hd 7850

-average performance as compared to the price
-performs like a hd 6950 when overclocked goes upto hd 6970
-power consumption is very nice
-driver are bit buggy but will be fixed as the times goes on but i didnt have any problem with my amd gpu
-not hotter card as compared to the others
-comfortable noise

http://www.anandtech.com/show/2977/nvidia-s-geforce-gtx...
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a b U Graphics card
May 13, 2012 6:22:48 AM

^moral of the story-
get a gtx 480 if you don't care about power,noise or heat and you can take care of all those things.
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a c 84 U Graphics card
May 13, 2012 6:28:37 AM

^^^right hellfire24:) 

@op if u dont care to all of that stuff then simple go for gtx 480
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Anonymous
May 13, 2012 6:35:59 AM

Or you can do like me and get th coolest and quietest running gtx 480's on the planet.I will soon be sli'ing the gigabyte super overclocked and galaxy overclocked edition.Even in SLI i wont hit 70 celcius.I dont even consider the reference card being loud.I own an evga superclocked and even at 100% its not loud at all.Power consumption is really the only issue.Heat shouldnt be a concern since they can easily handle 100 celcius they were just made to run hot.
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May 13, 2012 6:48:01 AM

hellfire24 said:
first of all,calm down.
you just proved yourself wrong by saying that 30 fps is playable not ultra!but in your earlier post you mentioned that it(gtx 465) can play any thing on ultra.it is the minimum frame rate not ultra frame rate.so please think before you call someone troll.



How you have not been banned from these forums permanently is a mystery, you offer poor advice and mostly troll people.

This will be my last reply to you, good day sir.
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Anonymous
May 13, 2012 6:56:33 AM

hellfire24 said:
first of all,calm down.
you just proved yourself wrong by saying that 30 fps is playable not ultra!but in your earlier post you mentioned that it(gtx 465) can play any thing on ultra.it is the minimum frame rate not ultra frame rate.so please think before you call someone troll.



I think he meant he can play on ultra settings and get playable framerates..
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May 13, 2012 7:05:08 AM

Scotty99 said:
How you have not been banned from these forums permanently is a mystery, you offer poor advice and mostly troll people.

This will be my last reply to you, good day sir.

oh really?are you kidding me?not trying to show off but i get a lot of best answers selected and thanking posts.you do sound like a noob who keeps on saying that "yes i can play minecraft on max settings at 640x480 with 30 fps." you are simply going mad because you can't prove your point.
this was my last reply to you.it feels bad to see ill-mannered people on toms.
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a b U Graphics card
May 13, 2012 7:10:55 AM

Anonymous said:
I think he meant he can play on ultra settings and get playable framerates..

he said i can play any game at ultra settings(with 30 fps???? :heink:  for a FPS game like BF3,it's hard to play on 30 fps as gameplay becomes choppy).here's guru3d's fps rule-
http://www.guru3d.com/article/palit-geforce-gtx-680-4gb...
Quote:
Frames per second

Gameplay

<30 FPS

very limited gameplay

30-40 FPS

average yet very playable

40-60 FPS

good gameplay

>60 FPS

best possible gameplay

So if a graphics card barely manages less than 30 FPS, then the game is not very playable, we want to avoid that at all cost.
With 30 FPS up-to roughly 40 FPS you'll be very able to play the game with perhaps a tiny stutter at certain graphically intensive parts. Overall a very enjoyable experience. Match the best possible resolution to this result and you'll have the best possible rendering quality versus resolution, hey you want both of them to be as high as possible.
When a graphics card is doing 60 FPS on average or higher then you can rest assured that the game will likely play extremely smoothly at every point in the game, turn on every possible in-game IQ setting.
Over 100 FPS? You either have a MONSTER graphics card or a very old game.
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Anonymous
May 13, 2012 7:24:46 AM

I dont know when i had my gtx 460 as long as i stayed above 25 fps i didnt feel any chop. 25 fps in bf 3 was smooth for me atleast from what i remember.ill have to try again see what really is smooth for me
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May 13, 2012 7:27:59 AM

Anonymous said:
I dont know when i had my gtx 460 as long as i stayed above 25 fps i didnt feel any chop. 25 fps in bf 3 was smooth for me atleast from what i remember.ill have to try again see what really is smooth for me


well at which resolution?you got 25 fps?my gtx 460 gives me over 40 fps in all games with 2xaa or 4xaa on my 19 inch monitor
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