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June 30, 2012 6:30:46 PM

Approximate Purchase Date: Within 2 Months

Budget Range: 1000-1500

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming

Parts Not Required: N/A

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Microcenter.com

Country: USA (Houston, Texas)

Parts Preferences: AMD Graphics, Intel CPU

Overclocking: No

SLI or Crossfire: Maybe

Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080

Additional Comments: N/A

Things I already know that i want:
CPU: i7 3770/i5 3450 (which one?),
Motherboard: Z68 Fatal1ty GEN3 1155 ATX
Memory: 16GB Cosair Vengeance (2x8)
GPU: AMD Radeon 7850 (Brands: HIS, Diamond, Gigabyte)
Case: NZXT H2
HDD: 2x WD Caviar Green 2TB on a RAID 1

Things i would like some advice on:
CPU: i7 3770 or i5 3450
PSU
Monitor
Speakers?

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June 30, 2012 6:38:17 PM

i5-3450 by far. Games don't use 8 threads nor will they for a long time.
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June 30, 2012 6:38:42 PM

If you're going Z68, it's pointless to get an Ivy Bridge CPU, you'll need Z77. And then that storage configuration is a bad idea as the green hard drives will be a major bottleneck even if they are in RAID 1. Go with an SSD / HD combo - you won't be disappointed. On a gaming system - 16GB of RAM will be useless and you don't want to use RAM with enormous heat spreaders that will hinder your air flow. Here's what you should get for a build that price range:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($214.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD5H ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($188.49 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Hard Drive: Samsung Spinpoint F4 2TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Hard Drive: Crucial M4 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card ($417.55 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Phantom 410 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($109.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: PC Power & Cooling 750W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1388.95
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)

You always want to invest more in the GPU than the CPU in any gaming build - and the 670 is currently the best bang for buck option you can get - more so than the 7850. The PSU I chose gives you plenty of room to invest in a second 670 should you want to.
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July 1, 2012 7:40:34 PM

g-unit1111 said:
If you're going Z68, it's pointless to get an Ivy Bridge CPU, you'll need Z77. And then that storage configuration is a bad idea as the green hard drives will be a major bottleneck even if they are in RAID 1. Go with an SSD / HD combo - you won't be disappointed. On a gaming system - 16GB of RAM will be useless and you don't want to use RAM with enormous heat spreaders that will hinder your air flow. Here's what you should get for a build that price range:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($214.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD5H ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($188.49 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Hard Drive: Samsung Spinpoint F4 2TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Hard Drive: Crucial M4 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card ($417.55 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Phantom 410 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($109.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: PC Power & Cooling 750W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1388.95
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)

You always want to invest more in the GPU than the CPU in any gaming build - and the 670 is currently the best bang for buck option you can get - more so than the 7850. The PSU I chose gives you plenty of room to invest in a second 670 should you want to.


Well first of all (no offence) it looks like you told me what is wrong with my computer then took my budget and made your own; i kinda want my computer to have a little ME in it, if you know what i mean.

Second i want to ask a couple questions
1. What is the reason of having a ssd boot drive? I mean all it does is make your computer boot in 13 seconds instead of 23, right?
2. How is having caviar green HDDs a bottleneck?

I really appreciate your input, but i want to build my own computer. And yes, i do realize that i did ask for advice, but advice not someone to practically build a computer for me.

i hope you dont take this the wrong way,
Xioms

P.S. i do think i will take your advice on the motherboard
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July 1, 2012 7:46:36 PM

Caviar Green will double your OS load times. If you don't care, by all means, get the Caviar Green. The reason he included a 5400rpm HDD as secondary is because storage doesn't require as much speed.
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July 1, 2012 10:41:17 PM

Xioms said:
Well first of all (no offence) it looks like you told me what is wrong with my computer then took my budget and made your own; i kinda want my computer to have a little ME in it, if you know what i mean.

Second i want to ask a couple questions
1. What is the reason of having a ssd boot drive? I mean all it does is make your computer boot in 13 seconds instead of 23, right?
2. How is having caviar green HDDs a bottleneck?

I really appreciate your input, but i want to build my own computer. And yes, i do realize that i did ask for advice, but advice not someone to practically build a computer for me.

i hope you dont take this the wrong way,
Xioms

P.S. i do think i will take your advice on the motherboard


Well I understand that - but the point of this forum is to ask questions - I generally try to give advice the best way I feel, the thing is it's ultimately your system and you decide what goes in it. I put up build templates for people to use as a guide - that build is pretty similar to my own.

The SSD will drastically cut down on load times. 5900 RPM hard drives will be a massive bottleneck in any system even if they're running in RAID 1. They are very slow hard drives, even the fastest CPU and GPU combination known to man can be marred by a slow storage configuration.
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