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July 1, 2012 11:27:44 PM

hi everybody, i'd like to custom a good pc for trading with 24 monitor.

i see a picture on this 3D but is about 3 years ago

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/260878-13-trading-c...

can you give me some advise to set up a pc with the actuals hardware?

the budget of 6000 have to include also the 24 monitor 21" (possible backlit :)  ), i look sure for a long term pc, 18 hours runs for day so please consider the warm. i'll make the stand myself in wood.

my doubt concerns the compatibility of the system, i don't want to foretaste something never test but i'd like to have something already testing to not have any surprise :)  .

your answer could be, why don't get a pc alredy done?

i think or better i hope to save some money that i can use to buy better components.

please i'm like a newbe so if you can link or write the single component (case, motherboard, videocard, ram storage devices, power supply, fan, ecc..) with the full name i appreciate to get a easier research.

last two question :)  , is better on pc with 24 monitors or two pc with 12 monitor? in internet i found some info in
eztradingcomputer, is it a good advisor? i live in europe, i don't think for me is cheap to buy in usa for the boarder tax (custom tax). can you please advise safety, serious and cheaper web shops where to buy. i'm from italy

how much approximately is the electric absorbency? i mean when all the system runs with the monitors. i have 3 kilowatt, but there is also an apartment that goes in the same electric meter. is it enough?

do you have some advise for continuities electric battery (ups) just for the time to close all the system properly?

here a couple of picture to let you know what i'm speaking about

http://speedingcomputer.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/...

http://www.9xmedia.com/Images/L2-images/market-guidance...

thank you everybody for your time

keep connect

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July 4, 2012 11:46:06 AM

none one can help me?
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July 4, 2012 1:12:42 PM

it cannot be done
July 4, 2012 3:23:06 PM

24 monitors, jeez you'd need like the best GPU's in a 4way SLI. Unless you want to fork out two GTX 690's, it just cannot be done.
July 4, 2012 3:30:57 PM

Could you elaborate on why you need 24 monitors?
Couldn't you try and tone it down to something like 6-12 larger monitors?
July 4, 2012 4:15:03 PM

SingingThroughTheStorm said:
Could you elaborate on why you need 24 monitors?
Couldn't you try and tone it down to something like 6-12 larger monitors?


Ya having 6-12 large monitors would be a lot better then running 24 monitors
July 4, 2012 4:19:35 PM

SingingThroughTheStorm said:
Couldn't you try and tone it down to something like 6-12 larger monitors?



i look for the cheaper way that give me more desktop as possible, i don't look for editing and gaming , just trading so can you advise a set up with 12 monitor cheap? i can move frome 21" to 24". thank you :??: 
July 4, 2012 11:54:46 PM

receive info from amd, bad news maximum support is limited to 8 monitor :cry:  , (i think because the adapter are passive and not active). good solution is two matrox m9188 with 2 3headgo each card that it means 24 monitor but the resolution go down to 1600. maybe best choise could be 2x m9188 and bigger size of monitor, like 28" and the budget fly. :cry: 

what can be a extreme set up (mobo,processor,solid storage, ram ecc.. ecc..) to run a machine with this two monster card?
July 5, 2012 1:36:50 PM

SingingThroughTheStorm said:
Could you elaborate on why you need 24 monitors?


the application i use for trading doesn't allow to keep open more than one pc, that's way a need a lot of space to visual more graph on the same sofware.

arrived answer from amd:

it's possible to run 24 monitor with 2 x 5870 or 6870 eyefinity 6 with active adaptor (not provided from amd).

what does it mean? should i need 12 active adaptor dual link? does it cheap for my solution?

does the bandwidth of pcie-bus to provide a properly frame rate is correct calculate with active adaptor or is a foretaste for me?

please someone help me :) 
July 5, 2012 11:55:19 PM

any suggestions?
a b C Monitor
July 6, 2012 12:07:03 AM

might want to look into some workstation cards such as the firepro series from AMD. they have the ablity to drive 6 monitors easily off one card.

i dont see the use of 24 monitors
July 6, 2012 12:37:12 AM

holy crap i have one for you thats 6000 pounds right?

12x 24" view sonic
http://www.amazon.com/Viewsonic-VX2450WM-LED-23-6-Inch-...

=2160$ =811.19 pounds

GPU= 2x gtx 690 $1,199.99 each
http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-Signature-mDisplayPort-Graph...

CPU= 980x $1151.87
http://www.amazon.com/Intel-i7-980X-Extreme-Edition-Pro...

PSU= 1200w corsair gold plus $267.98
http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Professional-1200-Watt-Ce...

Memory= 2x caviar black 2tb $192.98 each
http://www.amazon.com/Western-Digital-Caviar-Internal-D...
1x120gb ssd 119.99
http://www.amazon.com/Crucial-2-5-Inch-Solid-State-CT12...

MOBO= Gigabyte G1. Sniper around $449.95
http://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-Sniper-Intel-Core-Mother...

RAM= 6x4GB $149.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

optical= blueray SH-B123L/BSBP $79.99
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-12XReadable-DVD-Writable-...
IHAS424-98 24.99
http://www.amazon.com/Lite-On-LightScribe-Layer-Drive-I...

Case= Thermaltake Level 10 GT Snow addition $289.99
http://www.amazon.com/Thermaltake-Level-Edition-Gaming-...

CPU cooler= H100 $102.74
http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Extreme-Performance-Liqui...

Keyboard/Mouse= G19 $148.33
http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Programmable-Gaming-Keyb...
Cyborg R.A.T.9 $119.99
http://www.amazon.com/Cyborg-T-7-Gaming-Mouse-MAC/dp/B0...

total price

7841.66$
5051.6 pounds

my god that is a NICE Computer :p  have fun!!!



a b C Monitor
July 6, 2012 12:19:35 PM

he needs a trading computer with 24 monitors -_____-
July 6, 2012 4:20:25 PM

no he said that 12 will be ok
a b C Monitor
July 6, 2012 4:23:19 PM

painicmaster85, your build wouldnt even work out for him.
a b C Monitor
July 6, 2012 4:29:51 PM

1: a 3770k can outperform the 990x
2:690s werent meant for 12 monitors. heck, it cant even support more than 6. he also isnt doing anything very demanding other than to run at a extreme resolution. a fire pro card suits him more
3:no point of h100 when he wont be overclocking
4:no point of a 250 dollar case when a 50 dollar one suits his needs
5: i doubt he will be playing movies on 12 screens (imagine...)
July 6, 2012 4:34:01 PM

yeah dude just go by a home theater

the 980x is really beat by the 3770K! that pretty wierd
July 6, 2012 4:44:20 PM

why is it so much more expensive?
a b C Monitor
July 6, 2012 5:05:23 PM

its a EXTREME EDITION. thats why :D 

plus, retailers dont have much left any more so yeah....
July 7, 2012 6:27:40 AM

This is one solution i received from amd, it could be useful to someonelse, maybe i disunderstand but that show 3 link pc not one. Correct? This way could it be used to set up one pc?

If i use "old" card what about new driver comes up? Any future problem?

Configuring and Running a Large Video Wall using ATI FirePro Graphics
Revision 1.2
P/N: AN_WS_run_video_wall_rev1.2
Dec. 17, 2010
Application Note – Configuring and Running a Large Video Wall
Revision History
Revision
Date
Comments
1.0
28-Oct-2010
• Initial release by Max Ma
1.1
19-Nov-2010
• Additional input provided by Paul Janes and Alexis Mather
1.2
17-Dec-2010
• Changes to legal disclaimer on the last page

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Configuring and Running a Large Video Wall using ATI FirePro Graphics
The AMD workstation line of ATI FirePro graphics products allows users a variety of approaches for presenting their innovative and creative ideas.
One such approach is to configure and run a large video wall by utilizing AMD Eyefinity technology and AMD advanced synchronization technology.
This document will provide you the foundations of how to configure a large video wall and how to run an application on such a wall by using ATI FirePro V9800 along with ATI FirePro S400 synchronization modules. It is assumed that readers are familiar with and are already running cluster-aware software such as VizRT or Ventuz.
Although the sample configuration below is small, you can add more content systems to expand the display wall as required. In this example there are three workstation systems; two systems for content rendering containing two FirePro V9800 cards and one FirePro S400 sync module, and one system for control with one FirePro V8800 card and one FirePro S400 sync module.
1. Control System Configuration
The Control System (Timing Server) provides vertical frame signals which allow all the content systems (Timing Clients) to be output locked via the FirePro S400 modules. RJ45 cables connect the FirePro S400 cards which receive and output the frame signals. Therefore all the systems in the video wall cluster will be output locked, and all the displays in the cluster will scan their pixels and lines at the same time.
The Control System also sends commands to trigger rendering on content systems, and it also provides data commands during the vertical intervals to all content systems with details of which portion of data needs to be rendered. The commands are sent through a switch to each content system using RJ45 cables.
Here are the steps to configure the control system: a) Plug in a FrameLock/Genlock capable video card such as FirePro V8800 to provide
frame signals. Since it is for control it is not necessary to use a FirePro V9800. b) Plug in the FirePro S400 into any available add-in slot and connect a SATA power
connector into the board end of FirePro S400. c) Connect a sync ribbon cable from FirePro S400 to the FirePro V8800. d) Install the current AMD Display Driver which can be downloaded from the Support &
Driver page of www.amd.com
Application Note – Configuring and Running a Large Video Wall
Application Note – Configuring and Running a Large Video Wall
e) Install an application along with a data set. Run the application to make sure it installed properly.
2. Content System Configuration
Since this example configuration uses two FirePro V9800s, the motherboard/system must have two PCIe slots capable to hold the double-slot V9800, and one add-in slot in any format for holding FirePro S400 on that system.
Procedure for configuring the content system: a) Plug in two FirePro V9800s into two PCIe slots, connect one 2x3 and one 2x4 power
cables into the board end of FirePro V9800 on each board b) Plug in the FirePro S400 into any spare add-in slot, connect the SATA power
connector into the board end of FirePro S400 c) Connect the sync ribbon cables from FirePro S400 to each FirePro V9800 d) Connect six LCD monitors to each FirePro V9800 through mini-DisplayPort to DVI
cables or through mini-DisplayPort to DisplayPort cables. e) Install the current AMD Display Driver which can be downloaded from the Support &
Driver page of www.amd.com then reboot. f) Makesurethedisplaydriverinstalledproperlybycheckin gifthetwoFireProV9800s
are showing and the proper driver version is reported through: ControlPanelSettingsAdvancedAdapter, and through ControlPanel Settings Advanced  Adapter  Properties  Driver
g) Configure the six displays attached to each FirePro V9800 into a display group in tile style of 3x2 through AMD Catalyst Control CenterGraphicsDisplay Properties at resolution of 1920x1200x60Hz (user may select other resolutions and refresh rates), select one group as primary and the other group in extended, arrange the two groups either in a row or in a column.
h) Check to make sure all the displays are presented through Catalyst Control Center Graphics  Workstation  Synchronization
i) Install an application along with a data set. Run the application to make sure it installed properly.
3. Cluster Configuration
In order to display all the content on different monitors at the same rate horizontally (pixel by pixel) and vertically (line by line), all the systems in the video wall cluster will have to be output locked.
In order to display different content on different monitors, as part of a large video wall, all the content systems will have to receive the data command for rendering from the control system during the vertical interval.
The figure below shows the links for synchronizing (red cables) and for networking (blue cables).
3.1 Cable connection a) Connect the RJ45 cables one after the other on the RJ45 connector of FirePro S400 on
each system for synchronizing as shown in RED. b) Connect RJ45 cables to the switch from each system for networking as shown in
BLUE.
3.2 Output Locking
a) Power on all the systems and the switch in the wall cluster. b) Bring up AMD Catalyst Control Center on each system. c) Set the primary group on the control system as a “Timing Server”, so the primary
group on the control system becomes the master for sending the frame signal to all
other groups and systems. d) Set the extended group on the control system as the “Timing Client”.
e) Set both primary group and extended group on the content systems as the “Timing Client” so both groups on both content systems are now output locked to the primary group on the control system.
Below is a screen-shot of the application window of AMD Catalyst Control Center Graphics  Workstation  Synchronization:
3.3 Networking a) Make sure the drivers for the network interface devices on each system are installed
properly by connecting to the internet and loading some websites of your choice. b) Disable the firewall on each system so networking between systems in the video wall
cluster is allowed. c) Assign or re-assign the computer name for each system, for example, “Control” for
control system, “Content1” for one content system and “Content2” for the other
content system. d) Set IPs for each system as listed below:
10.0.0.1 / 255.255.255.0 for Control 10.0.0.2 / 255.255.255.0 for Content1 10.0.0.3 / 255.255.255.0 for Content2
Application Note – Configuring and Running a Large Video Wall
e) Add the following IPs and computer names into Windows\system32\drivers\etc\Hosts:
10.0.0.1 10.0.0.2 10.0.0.3
Control Content1 Content2
Now you should be able to ping the other systems in the video cluster, for example: “Ping Content1” from the Control system or the Content2 system.
4. Running Applications on the Video Wall
All the systems should be output locked as long as the synchronization settings are right and are maintained active as described in section 3.2 “Output Locking” above. The Control system will send the command to start rendering on each content system, then the Control system will constantly send data commands during vertical intervals to each group on each content system, which lead to the proper portion of data to be rendered and output on the display monitors in the next vertical cycle or next couple of cycles.
Please follow the instructions from your software vendor if you desire to run a particular application.
5. AdditionalNotes
Some applications may take one system for two rules: Control and Content display as well. In this case more function keys may need to be created in order to provide interactive operations if the control menu will not be always seen.
Besides 3x2 tile style in configuring six displays with FirePro V9800, other configurations like 3x1, 1x3, 2x2, 2x1, and 1x2 will also be available.
Groups in different tile styles can be FrameLocked by AMD Eyefinity and AMD advanced FrameLock, but applications will have to manage each group with proper data commands so that the display on the video wall will function correctly.
Although this example explains the setup for a large video wall with 24 displays, the wall can be easily expanded by either adding two more FirePro V9800s into each content system, or cascade more content systems in the cluster.

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