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July 2, 2012 7:40:48 AM

Hey guys this is my first post because I am new to building pc's and I need some help. I have chosen my components, but I want an opinion on the parts. I need to know if all the components will work together and run for a long time. I have done some research on the PSU and GPU. the GPU has some mixed reviews. A few people have had nothing but problems and I want to know if it is a good card to go with or is there a better one for the same price?

Here are the parts:
CPU-
GPU-
RAM-
HDD-
DVD-
Motherboard-
PSU-
Case-

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July 2, 2012 12:39:52 PM

can you please fill out the how to ask for build advice template. we dont have enough information to help out very effectively
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July 2, 2012 4:25:48 PM


Approximate Purchase Date: August 2012

Budget Range: $600

System Usage from Most to Least Important: gaming, watching 1080p movies, surfing the Internet

Parts Not Required: Monitor, Mouse, Speakers, OS

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Newegg.ca and NCIX.com

Country: Canada

Parts Preferences: AMD CPU

Overclocking: Maybe

SLI or Crossfire: Preferably Yes

Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080

Additional Comments: Would like case to have a window and decent airflow.
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July 2, 2012 5:34:03 PM

http://pcpartpicker.com/ca/p/bf9F

i dont see the point of having a window case showing off a budget build but nevertheless, i got you one. if something is cheaper at other websites, just go to ncix and price match everything that doesnt have MIRs attached. NCIX will ship to you for 5 bucks
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July 2, 2012 5:34:49 PM

the i3 2120 is better than most AMD chips in games even if they are overclocked.
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July 2, 2012 5:58:24 PM

Isn't the i3 2120 more expensive than the AMD Phenom 2 which is $119?
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July 2, 2012 6:00:20 PM

by 5 more bucks yes. i think it is totally worth it since the i3 uses half the power of the phenom 2 while performing much better
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July 2, 2012 6:01:46 PM

Okay, so quad core doesn't really help in games does it?
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July 2, 2012 6:05:42 PM

not really. it will help in other things like multi-tasking but you wont see much of a difference in real time
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July 2, 2012 6:14:53 PM

TheBigTroll said:
not really. it will help in other things like multi-tasking but you wont see much of a difference in real time



Is an i3 better in multiplayer then a Phenom like in Battlefield 3? 64 player Caspian border? lol people say the phenom is better because its a quad core but idk :lol: 
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July 2, 2012 6:27:35 PM

yes i heard that quad cores do help in massive multiplayer maps but i have no idea since all of the reviewer sites never benchmark CPUs in multiplayer.
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July 2, 2012 11:08:32 PM

AMD Phenom 2 x4 965 got 4200 score
Intel core i3 2120 got 4220 score
so intel is better, but for games, but what if I wanted to use photoshop or do some video editing? Both are so close. And I want to future proof this computer in a way that I could add another video card. So I will get a 700w OCZ xstream PSU and a motherboard with crossfire support. Have any ideas guys? I will post my PC part picker build.
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July 2, 2012 11:10:48 PM

lol gets 20 more points.... WAY BETTER im LOLing
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July 2, 2012 11:33:01 PM

NOO DONT GET THE OCZ MODXSTREAM 700W. it sucks, its loud, and is not very efficent. id get a xfx pro750w since its pretty cheap, made by seasonic, and is quiet
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July 2, 2012 11:35:28 PM

AND buy from NCIX Mr.Canadian
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July 3, 2012 12:57:42 AM

Okay, thanks for the advice. For the 20 point difference I think I will go for the AMD because it is cheaper and has two more cores. For the graphics card is the xfx 6870 better than the gigabyte 6850, reliability wise? Will get an updated list together.
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July 3, 2012 1:00:12 AM

XFX is the best ati/amd manufacturer is what ive heard and ive heard that the 6870 is %25 better then the 6850
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July 3, 2012 1:25:04 AM

Sweet, thanks for the help!
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July 3, 2012 1:30:10 AM

Okay, I like the AMD brand, but I am still torn between the Phenom 2 and the core i3. I want the power for video editing and multitasking, but I want to have a solid game platform. Which CPU is better? I know this next question is a big one, but it would help me out a lot. Can someone put together a CPU, GPU, PSU combo that will work together and support crossfire. Thanks:) 
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July 3, 2012 2:06:42 AM

Well it looks like the i3 is a winner in most tests, especially the graphics tests. I think I am leaning towards the core i3. Can someone put together a GPU, mobo, and PSU please? Thanks for all the help. I would have made all the wrong decisions without you're help!
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July 3, 2012 2:08:38 AM

Are you going to play a lot of multiplayer?
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July 3, 2012 2:10:30 AM

I like mmorpg games like wow and allods online, so yes
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July 3, 2012 2:11:37 AM

Go with i3 then
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July 3, 2012 2:47:31 AM



He lives in Canada broski change da links lol
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Anonymous
July 3, 2012 3:00:13 AM

guerrero said:
He lives in Canada broski change da links lol

ah all the links are canadian broski!
EDIT: oh the case and gfx card . .oppssies :lol: 
low "budget" i5 build:
SeaSonic M12II 520 Bronze 520W $61.99
Intel Core i5 2310 $178.36
MSI H67A-G43 (B3) $80.99
Seagate Barracuda (ST3500418AS) 7200.12 SATA 3.0Gb/s 500GB $ 49.88
Zotac (ZT-50301-10M) GeForce GTX 560 Ti 1GB $ 164.88
Mushkin Enhanced Silverline 8GB $42.99
Rosewill R218-P-BK Black $29.99

$609.08 or with an i3:
Intel Core i3-2120 $124.99
$555.71
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July 3, 2012 3:04:27 AM

Anonymous said:
ah all the links are canadian broski!



Not the 560ti! hahhaha your trying o make me wear my glasses :lol:  :lol:  :lol: 
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July 3, 2012 3:13:31 AM

guerrero said:
Not the 560ti! hahhaha your trying o make me wear my glasses :lol:  :lol:  :lol: 

fixed it, thanks
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July 3, 2012 4:58:48 AM

Look at benches between 560ti and 6870 and you'll know what to choose haha
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Anonymous
July 3, 2012 4:59:52 AM

honestly, the 560ti by a nose.
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July 3, 2012 5:01:58 AM

I know haha but i can't really show him the links since I'm on my iPod right now :/ 
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July 3, 2012 5:07:24 AM

I compared them on gpureviewer.com and found that the 560ti has a faster shader clock speed, but for $40 more I don't see the need especially because in the future I will be upgrading the CPU and adding a second 6870 card in crossfire configuration. Am I wrong? I am already over my budget, so I am trying to save money where I can:) 
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July 3, 2012 5:10:11 AM

Isn't that 560ti cheaper?....
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Anonymous
July 3, 2012 5:21:34 AM

Hondarider98 said:
I compared them on gpureviewer.com and found that the 560ti has a faster shader clock speed, but for $40 more I don't see the need especially because in the future I will be upgrading the CPU and adding a second 6870 card in crossfire configuration. Am I wrong? I am already over my budget, so I am trying to save money where I can:) 

the first post had some US links . .the second is all canadian and a cheap 560ti in it. the total is only a few dollars more.
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/352790-31-first-time-...
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July 3, 2012 5:22:04 AM

The sale ends on both cards soon and I can't buy all the parts right now. Both cards are $200
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July 3, 2012 5:23:46 AM

No? The one he showed is $165 that's less then $200???
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Anonymous
July 3, 2012 5:26:04 AM

Hondarider98 said:
The sale ends on both cards soon and I can't buy all the parts right now. Both cards are $200

ok. sales happen all the time. when you get to purchasing it, just look around for the best price.
http://pcpartpicker.com/ca/parts/video-card/
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July 3, 2012 5:26:38 AM

Yeah I know, but the sale ends soon and I cannot buy it before then. I want to buy all the parts at the same time. The retail is $200
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July 3, 2012 5:28:49 AM

I would buy when theres a good deal.
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Anonymous
July 3, 2012 5:31:38 AM

there is almost always a good deal somewhere if you look for it.
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July 3, 2012 5:36:01 AM

Yeah I will be doing a lot more research and get a component list together. I know what CPU, GPU, RAM, HDD, CASE, DVD DRIVE to get. Just the power supply and motherboard at the moment. Then second stage of research, finding the best prices. I enjoy and hate the research process, even when you guys are doing most of the work!
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July 3, 2012 5:36:19 AM

Not always :( 
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July 3, 2012 6:55:38 AM

Here are the parts thus far, subject to change
XFX HD6870
Intel Core i3 2120
Cooler master haf 912
Seasonic M12ii 520w
G.skill 4Gb 1600MHz DDR3
MSI H67A-G43 mobo
Seagate 500Gb 7200rpm SATA3 HDD
Lite-on DVD burner

I know I chose the AMD GPU, because I like it!
What do you guys think so far? Is the intel core i3 the best well rounded CPU for the budget?
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July 3, 2012 6:58:30 AM

Get two more fans since that case only has 2
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Anonymous
July 3, 2012 7:11:30 AM

you can step down to a pentium G860 for gaming.
though when you have several tabs open in a browser, general multitasking or running fraps or other apps in the background while gaming, the hyper threading of the i3 comes in handy.
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