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NEW BUILD, WHICH GPU?

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May 9, 2012 10:00:24 AM

Ok so I everything picked up for my new build but my GPU. I have a 850w psu, an i5 3570k, and an asrock z77 extreme4.

I've narrowed it down to either a evga 570 good, not too high priced. $300

A gtx 480 great for the money but really loud and hot? $200

Or should I get a 670 or 660? Are they worth the extra money and when are they coming out? IF its more than 2 weeks away I'd have to get a cheap filler card to test my system like a gtx 550 or 460 and sell that when the 600s drop.

I'm leaning more toward the 570 or 600 line i just want to know more if the 670 is worth the extra money about 100 form what I've heard, or will the 660ti be better and cheaper than the 570?



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May 9, 2012 10:16:53 AM

the tests and romour mills have the 670 as the card to beat at sub-400. If you can wait and afford it, then hold on, as it is bound to be excellent. Nvdia has this 28 mm biz nailed!

Also any reason that you dont want anything from ATI? The Radeon 7870 and 7850 are both good options also.
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May 9, 2012 10:19:25 AM

I'm open to suggestions, I just always used nvidia and always liked them. As well as the naming system is very easy to follow. But I'd be open to an ATI if someone recommends a good card.
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May 9, 2012 10:44:21 AM

If I were to buy AMD GPUs instead of Nvidia, I would go for XFX HD 7850 (2GB) Double Dissipation instead of waiting for Nvidia price to drop or buy a cheap card which doesn't run well if you're into gaming pretty often. Even better, when it comes to price and extras, this XFX card is priced @ $269.99. It will also beat the hell out of EVGA GTX 570 'price range' and provides better cooling if you plan to overclock in future.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

The specs for XFX HD 7850 (2GB) DD Edition
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Core Clock:
860MHz

Stream Processors:
1024 Stream Processors

Effective Memory Clock:
1200MHz (4.8Gbps)

DirectX:
DirectX 11

Compared to Nvidia EVGA 570 (1.28GB), this GPU runs @ 732MHz 'Clock' speed and only provide 1 x cooling fans (stock fans, I think), 2 x DVI, 1 Mini HDMI - WHAT?

Seriously, no HDMI support and mini-display port? You got to be kidding - for $299?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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Core Clock:
732MHz

Shader Clock:
1464MHz

CUDA Cores:
480

Effective Memory Clock:
3800MHz

DirectX:
DirectX 11
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May 9, 2012 10:52:02 AM

same goes for the 7870 which competes with the 580
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May 9, 2012 12:24:54 PM

yeah the gtx 480 is louder and hotter but not much even its an very good card for price it gives performance little bit over gtx 570 its an nice card for the price.:) 

in my opinion you should wait for gtx 670 and see what advantage and performance does it has after that you should take a move.:) 

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May 9, 2012 12:28:55 PM

psirohi said:
same goes for the 7870 which competes with the 580


hd 7870 is not same in performance like gtx 580 it is about 5 or more percent less then tht card in real world yes it will go over that gtx 580 when you will overclock your gpu.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-7870-revi...
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May 9, 2012 12:32:31 PM

just wait for the 670. 480s arent that hot, but they do draw lots of power
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May 9, 2012 12:50:01 PM

sunnk said:
hd 7870 is not same in performance like hd 580 it is about 5 or more percent less then tht card in real world yes it will go over that gtx 580 when you will overclock your gpu.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-7870-revi...


no offense but he said the 7870 COMPETES with the 580, and being within 5% means roughly that. He did not say it was the exact same performance, and fyi it is the gtx 580 not the hd 580, and from your review you linked I think it shows that it really is almost a gtx 580, your 5% is like 2fps...thats nothing...

Now what I would suggest is getting a gtx 670 for $410. The benchmarks are showing it to be on par with the hd 7970, even maybe a little bit better.
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May 9, 2012 12:53:03 PM

670 is supposed to appear tomorrow.

Quick note on you Extreme4. All the fan headers are set to max rpm by default in the bios - have to set them to auto then a low target number to keep them from spinning up. You can also connect your rear case fan to CPU_2 header to have that fan spin up at the same rate at the cpu cooler as temps increase.
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May 9, 2012 1:06:50 PM

Delirious788 said:
no offense but he said the 7870 COMPETES with the 580, and being within 5% means roughly that. He did not say it was the exact same performance, and fyi it is the gtx 580 not the hd 580, and from your review you linked I think it shows that it really is almost a gtx 580, your 5% is like 2fps...thats nothing...

Now what I would suggest is getting a gtx 670 for $410. The benchmarks are showing it to be on par with the hd 7970, even maybe a little bit better.


but in real world of performance gtx 580 is above that card i mean that gtx 580 is about 2% less in performance then hd 7950.the hd 7870 is about hd 6970 in performance and the gtx 580 beats that hd 6970 you dont have to tell me what i m talking about ok i know what is right and what is wrong :non:  and that hd 580 was written by mistake. :D 

so keep your ideas with you and why are you giving him support?

look at this benchmark

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-7950-over...

:kaola: 



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May 9, 2012 1:36:03 PM

sunnk said:
but in real world of performance gtx 580 is above that card i mean that gtx 580 is about 2% less in performance then hd 7950.the hd 7870 is about hd 6970 in performance and the gtx 580 beats that hd 6970 you dont have to tell me what i m talking about ok i know what is right and what is wrong :non:  and that hd 580 was written by mistake. :D 

so keep your ideas with you and why are you giving him support?

look at this benchmark

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-7950-over...

:kaola: 

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_9bJer_8PwVM/TMbLvZpF2ZI/AAAAAAAAA1I/8jBbwaurVE0/s1600/idiot-41423.jpg

http://www.motifake.com/image/demotivational-poster/0907/the-stupidity-of-idiots-demotivational-poster-1246827157.jpg


Glad you put up those images. Saved me the bother of putting them up.

First off nice of you to use bf3 as a bench - everyone knows that its optimized for Nvidia.

Also fyi, here is another set of benchmarks, that well prove that the real world difference is about 5%:
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/548?vs=517&i=371...

And the 7870 is also cooler, less power consuming, less noisy and about 10% cheaper!!!

I do not recall saying that the 7870 was the same card as the GTX 580 - only that it competes with it. Which means that it offers competing price/ performance at the 'real world levels' you were talking about.

Instead of estimating performance. I have tried to show why someone might have merit in considering an alternative card.

Before walking about giving advice... try doffing that prejudice of yours. Other people may also have something to say, which is not wrong by the mere fact that they dont agree with you!
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May 9, 2012 1:56:56 PM

psirohi said:
Glad you put up those images. Saved me the bother of putting them up.

First off nice of you to use bf3 as a bench - everyone knows that its optimized for Nvidia.

Also fyi, here is another set of benchmarks, that well prove that the real world difference is about 5%:
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/548?vs=517&i=371...

And the 7870 is also cooler, less power consuming, less noisy and about 10% cheaper!!!

I do not recall saying that the 7870 was the same card as the GTX 580 - only that it competes with it. Which means that it offers competing price/ performance at the 'real world levels' you were talking about.

Instead of estimating performance. I have tried to show why someone might have merit in considering an alternative card.

Before walking about giving advice... try doffing that prejudice of yours. Other people may also have something to say, which is not wrong by the mere fact that they dont agree with you!



why do i keep my opinions aside ha what do you think about you i have given there its about 5% better then yours 7870 i also like that card i m not oposition of that card and i m not fighting with that card i love its performance and i dont care you agree with me or not but the hd 7870 is less performer then gtx 580 ok bro so think first and then tell to me i m giving there write opinion not wrong and because of my experience and good advice i have got that silver badge i got that badge in only 1 month okay so please shut up ok i dont want to be rude with you i dont like to tell some one bad thing i like to be everyones friend so you also be my friend and close this argument i know i m right in your point of view you are right.:) 

i have given there benches which includes many games not only bf3 check it out and every one knows the difference between those two cards.:) 

i m not stopping every people to say anything :non: 

many people agree with me since i m in this forums maybe you not

ididnt tell anything wrong about that card i have been said that its allover 5% less then that card and even when you will overclock your hd 7870 it will go aove gtx 580s performance.:) 
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May 9, 2012 2:06:18 PM

Not sure if you were being placatory or intent on riling me up :) .

But that said. Cheers for your badge - more power to you.

@ OP. Look at your card and your budget. You'll do fine with the 7870 or the GTX 580 if they fit your budget. Else the gtx 570 or the 7850 if that is all that you can squeeze into your budget.
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May 9, 2012 2:15:56 PM

If you can afford it go for a 670, the benchmarks are really impressive
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May 9, 2012 2:34:36 PM

mac9891 said:
Ok so I everything picked up for my new build but my GPU. I have a 850w psu, an i5 3570k, and an asrock z77 extreme4.

I've narrowed it down to either a evga 570 good, not too high priced. $300

A gtx 480 great for the money but really loud and hot? $200

Or should I get a 670 or 660? Are they worth the extra money and when are they coming out? IF its more than 2 weeks away I'd have to get a cheap filler card to test my system like a gtx 550 or 460 and sell that when the 600s drop.

I'm leaning more toward the 570 or 600 line i just want to know more if the 670 is worth the extra money about 100 form what I've heard, or will the 660ti be better and cheaper than the 570?


The GTX 670 just came out, seems to rips everything apart including 7970, however looks like its going to be out of stock just like the 680, and its a $400. I would get the HD 7850 or the 7870, low power consumption and on your PSU possibility of Crossfire later on.
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May 10, 2012 7:37:21 AM

psirohi said:
Not sure if you were being placatory or intent on riling me up :) .

But that said. Cheers for your badge - more power to you.

@ OP. Look at your card and your budget. You'll do fine with the 7870 or the GTX 580 if they fit your budget. Else the gtx 570 or the 7850 if that is all that you can squeeze into your budget.



i m not being angry on you what makes me angry is that you said there to try to doffing my prejudice i know what i m talking about.:) 

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May 10, 2012 2:28:43 PM

Just ordered the EVGA gtx 670. Found it on amazon, wish it was the -AR but I guess all the new ones are going to be -KR. Thanks for your help all.
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May 10, 2012 2:50:55 PM

Awesome purchase , well done!
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May 10, 2012 3:00:06 PM

mac9891 said:
Just ordered the EVGA gtx 670. Found it on amazon, wish it was the -AR but I guess all the new ones are going to be -KR. Thanks for your help all.


Excellent, the best for the money on the high end GPU category.
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May 11, 2012 8:17:31 AM

nice choice good luck be happy with your upgrade.:) 
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